This route is getting very bold. The peg protecting the layback / bridge / crux thing (probably 5C) is unlikely to hold a fall and is usually backed up by a good small wire. The next bit of gear is a peg quite a way down (diagonally).

Ticklists: The Tremadog 'V's', North Wales Rock Graded List.

Ollie B 01/Nov AltLd O/S
with B.Brewer
Alex Riley 26/Sep Lead G/U

Foot slipped whilst placing gear on the crux. Route was fairly damp and felt pretty bold without the crux peg.

with Euan paterson
Rory_Cummings_NI 06/May AltLd
with Rachel, Dave
andybirtwistle ??/2017 -
Hidden ??/2017 -
dobby 200 01/Dec/16 AltLd O/S

I led P1 and 3. Amazing route. Definitely hard E2, but there is enough gear when its needed

with Stu Paton
foostu4 01/Dec/16 Lead O/S

Wow, great final pitch but HARD for E2.

keitht 02/Oct/16 AltLd

With Andy and Jen.

JendeHoxar 02/Oct/16 AltLd O/S
with Keith, Andy Brown
hamish2016 ?/Sep/16 AltLd
with Will Harris
adie84 23/Aug/16 -
Hidden 23/Aug/16 AltLd
emgroves 22/Jul/16 2nd
pie_eater_pete 14/Jul/16 -
Rory Shaw 02/Jul/16 AltLd O/S

Lead first pitch. Though that was solid E1 5b. Top pitch was amazing - super exposed with great climbing. Very top end E2 if not E3. Bold crux above not very good no. 1 wire/rps.

Hidden 18/Jun/16 AltLd O/S
anguskille 30/Apr/16 AltLd O/S

lead 2nd pitch, awesome! deserves three stars I think, prefer it to vector

with Kris
Hidden ??/2016 -
joedean ??/2016 -

Fantastic and fairly sustained. Would do again!

with Emily Groves
Twid Turner ??/2016 -
Climbingspike ??/2016 -
Dale ?/Sep/15 Lead

Unfortunately only got to lead the first pitch. Which Is really good. The reason for this is that Johny could not second this pitch. I had to abb down to get the gear back. I thought for the first pitch hard top end E1, Johny thought 5c I recon hard 5b. We then did Valaries rib to get the gear back. Johny didn't fancy the top crux pitch. I recon this makes a 2 star E1. Will be back for the top pitch it looks good

with johny
Andrew Sloan 30/Jul/15 AltLd dnf

I led first pitch, martin 2nd pitch. Couldn't suss out where 3rd pitch went from guide book description. Ended up finishing up what I presume was a variant of Valerie's rib.

with martin Levy
Hidden 24/May/15 AltLd dog
Hidden 14/Mar/15 AltLd O/S
Hidden 14/Mar/15 Lead O/S
Hidden ??/2015 AltLd
Hidden ??/2015 -
pete johnson 05/Oct/14 AltLd
with mike pycroft, Geoff Bennett
geoff b 05/Oct/14 AltLd

What a great route with so much excellent climbing.

duncandarnell 01/Sep/14 Lead O/S

first 2 pitches only as it turned pitch black so finished up the rib to the hs to the left

with neil philips
Misha 20/Jul/14 AltLd O/S

Great top pitch, varied, technical and massively exposed! The crux section above the 'out there' ledge (not really a ledge by the way) proved to be easier than it looked - fortunately so as it looked nails! Still quite hard though. Ed led the first pitch and did it clean once he committed to the sketchy traverse right under the rood.

with Ed
eduardo 20/Jul/14 AltLd dog

Led P1 clean (after dithering on the traverse under the roof), 1 rest on the top crux (bridge / groove / layback thing)

with Misha
Hidden 19/Jun/14 AltLd O/S
Hidden 01/Apr/14 Lead O/S
Hidden 31/Mar/14 AltLd O/S
Julesthe1st 16/Mar/14 AltLd

Mike peeled off from above the final overhang on pitch three! One rope through the peg the other through a very small wire. Both held but it was a monstrous fall. So definitely back the peg up with small wires!

with Andrea, Mike
Hidden 16/Mar/14 2nd
mike mo ??/2014 -
mike mo ??/2014 -
mike mo ??/2014 -
mike mo ??/2014 -
mike mo ??/2014 -
mike mo ??/2014 -
markalmack 30/Nov/13 AltLd O/S

lead p2

with james marjot
HAJ Francis 12/Oct/13 AltLd O/S

Lead P2 and 3

Ewan Russell 12/Oct/13 AltLd O/S

1st pitch. Wish had led 4th was amazing.

with Henry
31770 01/Oct/13 Lead dog

Did the first pitch of "The Grasper" then the last pitch of this route. The peg before the overlap/groove is no longer as I took a fall onto it from the layback move (too long trying to put in a cam rather then just committing to the move). I had in a small nut above and two more below it (rp's) the last of these held. Fall approx 7 meters into space. It felt very bold hence the faffing/falling. Got straight back on and did it with a better top wire that I believe would have held but didn't test this.

Hidden 10/Aug/13 Lead
shed_hed 24/May/13 AltLd O/S

I took first and last pitch. First two pitches were nothing special but last pitch was really cool.

dswansonlow 24/May/13 AltLd O/S
Alice Thompson 21/May/13 AltLd O/S
dan gibson 21/May/13 AltLd O/S
with alice thompson
greenclimb ?/Apr/13 Lead O/S
with Sarah
Hidden 03/Mar/13 Lead O/S
Hidden 03/Mar/13 Lead O/S
Nick Biven ??/2013 -
Hidden 26/Aug/12 AltLd
mike lawrence? 23/Aug/12 AltLd

finished climb in dark, top smooth slab absolutely desperate

with FatRob
Hidden 15/Aug/12 AltLd
Hidden 05/Aug/12 AltLd rpt
atapper21 01/Aug/12 Lead O/S
Graham Iles 27/Jul/12 AltLd O/S

Lead Valerie's Rib Direct as the middle pitch by mistake but this is a more logical line anyway. Superb top pitch.

with Neil Stabbs
Luke Brooks 12/Jul/12 AltLd rpt
with John Orr
Hidden 18/May/12 -
richardr 06/May/12 AltLd

P2 (the easy one)

with Ivan
malteserEd 05/May/12 2nd
nickmattia 05/May/12 AltLd O/S

P1 Aidan P2 Me P3 Aidan

with aiden jones
simonp ?/May/12 AltLd O/S
with Annelies Sarrazyn
Luke Brooks 12/Mar/12 Lead O/S
with Will
Hidden ??/2012 -
Hidden ??/2012 -
Hidden 02/Sep/11 2nd
Hidden ?/Sep/11 Lead
Adam Booth 31/Jul/11 2nd O/S
Ed Booth 31/Jul/11 AltLd

Led first and last pitch. Drizzly. Major rope jam action on first pitch.

Hidden 22/May/11 2nd
mynyddresident 12/May/11 AltLd O/S

p1. Tenuous ramp on last pitch. Amazing position.

with liam
Liam FLeming 12/May/11 -
with nick
Dave Searle ?/May/11 -
Hidden 24/Apr/11 Lead O/S
Glyn 23/Apr/11 Lead O/S

Pegs are a bit dubious, take a few small wires. fantastic top pitch. balancey then steep and pumpy

will9911 23/Apr/11 Lead O/S
with Glyn
Alex Mason 30/Jan/11 Lead O/S

First 2 pitches only, good blind moves under the roof.

with Aaron
Hidden ??/2011 -
Hidden ??/2011 -
Hidden ??/2011 -
Ed Booth ??/2011 Lead O/S
mr mills 10/Oct/10 AltLd rpt
with Gareth
Bargate_Champ 29/Jun/10 AltLd O/S
willoates 23/May/10 AltLd

lead first and last pitch.

with Steve
Steeve 23/May/10 AltLd dog

seconded first pitch clean, led second pitch, seconded all but the very top moves of third pitch clean, and topped out a little off route.

with will
3 Names 02/May/10 Lead O/S
with Dan H
Duncan Campbell 17/Mar/10 AltLd O/S

didnt do P3 as it was getting dark....first 2 pitches are ard HVS or soft E1 i lead the first-lovely boldness followed bysteeper, harder better protectd climbing

with Ed
simeclimb68 ??/2010 -
mr mills ??/2010 -
with Elfyn (chang)
Hidden 01/Aug/09 AltLd dog
Hidden 01/Aug/09 AltLd rpt
barni 30/Jul/09 AltLd O/S
with Ewan
benchwarmer 30/Jul/09 2nd dog
NeilGriffiths 25/Jul/09 -
with Dave Almond
Dave Almond 25/Jul/09 AltLd dog
mux 12/Jul/09 AltLd O/S
frost 12/Jul/09 AltLd O/S
with D Garry
Richard Horn 23/May/09 AltLd O/S
Brown 01/Mar/09 AltLd O/S
with John
babymoac 24/Jan/09 AltLd

Only P 1 & 2 so missed crux, maybe a HVS tick..

with Pete C
Hidden ??/2009 AltLd O/S
nige ??/2009 AltLd
with adam ellwood
barni ??/2009 AltLd O/S
with Ewan
mikelaing ?/Oct/08 AltLd

Led the 5a pitch - thought the top pitch was desparate.

with Pete Harrison
Rich Kirby 21/Jul/08 AltLd O/S

Led top pitch. Vastly underrated - as good as Grasper.Solid E2.

with Ewan
Hidden 08/Jun/08 AltLd O/S
Hidden 16/Feb/08 Lead O/S
Hidden 25/Aug/07 AltLd O/S
Hidden 27/May/07 AltLd O/S
Mark Stevenson 12/May/07 AltLd O/S
with Tania Noakes
IOAN D 30/Apr/06 Lead
with gareth
Ian McNeill ??/2006 -
Hidden ??/2006 -
Hidden ??/2006 -
paul m hadley ??/2004 Lead
James B 07/Sep/03 AltLd
with Phil
Hidden 29/Apr/01 Lead O/S
zero six ??/2000 Lead O/S
Marti999 ??/2000 AltLd
Hidden ??/1999 AltLd O/S
Hidden ?/Jun/98 Lead
nickdonohue 15/Feb/98 AltLd

I did first pitch; Mark did rest. Mind blowing exposure on top pitch - superb

with Mark McCarthy
Tim Sparrow ??/1998 AltLd
with Ian Owen
Ched ??/1997 Lead O/S
with Glanfor
Alan James - UKC and UKH ?/Jul/95 Lead
Cowflinger ?/Apr/95 Lead O/S
with Craig
jfletcher 20/Mar/94 Lead O/S
with Phil Dowthwaite
crossleysm ?/May/93 Lead O/S
Hidden 16/Jul/92 AltLd
WB ??/1992 -
Bob ??/1990 -
keefe ?/Jul/89 -
with Johnny Adams
Steve Crowe 25/May/87 Lead O/S

pitches 1,2,3, previously RB/SGC

Melok ??/1985 AltLd
steveboote ??/1985 Lead
with Rona Owen
andy gittins ??/1985 -
mark-abz 01/Nov/84 Lead O/S
with Walter P
sadams 15/Sep/84 AltLd
with Celia Bull
Dave Musgrove 07/May/84 AltLd
with Kim Greenald
Robmwatt ??/1984 -
Paula Hamilton-Gibson ?/Jun/83 Lead
with Phillippa Mathews
Mark Kemball 31/Jan/82 AltLd
with Paul Clark
andy gittins ??/1982 -
Nic Robinson 27/Jun/81 Lead O/S
Hammy 26/Jun/81 2nd
with Rob Lawson
Hidden 25/May/81 -
Andy Stephenson 20/Apr/81 AltLd O/S

Led the main pitch. Seemed quite hard and exposed.

with Chris Plant
Falko 01/Apr/81 Lead O/S
with A N Other
kjacks ??/1981 2nd
with Dave 'Looney'
daviesxxx ??/1980 -
Hidden 09/Jun/79 AltLd
Ian Jones ??/1979 Lead O/S
with Mike Wright
Mike Owen 15/Oct/77 Lead rpt
with John Roberts
Steve Lewis 08/May/77 AltLd O/S
with sharpie
Sean Kelly ?/Mar/77 -
with Bob Millward
Hidden 10/Dec/76 Lead O/S
Mike Owen 28/Mar/76 AltLd O/S
with John Roberts
Bolt Phobia 18/Nov/75 2nd
with Dave Hollows
Bolt Phobia 18/Oct/75 2nd
with Dave Hollows
jon 22/Sep/75 -
with Pete
petemeads ??/1975 Lead
Falko 27/Oct/74 AltLd O/S
with Dick Swinden
greenbuoy 30/May/71 AltLd
with Bob Lister, Terry Taylor
Seymore Butt ??/1970 -
with Keith Roberts
uphillnow ??/1970 AltLd

About 1975 (Friends had just come out and used one for the first time)Done perhaps 3 times since, last time seconded Phil Gibson

with Al Bennett
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