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Hidden 15/Oct/17 2nd dog
Max Streeton 01/Sep/17 AltLd O/S
with Mike Hamill
daviesp2 23/Jul/17 2nd
with Jurgen, Dave GMC
Matt Amos 29/Jun/17 AltLd O/S
Dexter JW 29/Jun/17 AltLd dog
senior rita 13/Jun/17 AltLd

with neil.. -It felt like hvs maybe because the right walls were quite greasy and a very polished hold on top pitch unuseable. But really good route . Middle pitch stops it getting 3 stars.

Andy Clarke 26/May/17 AltLd O/S

Yet another quality Tremadog HVS. Done this time of year, the botanical garden belay on P2 just adds to the experience. P1 finish very tough at 4c, but yields to a retro technical approach. P3 start still pretty tough at 5a and if there's an elegant way to do it, it eluded me. Plenty of grunting, some cursing. Led Ps 1 & 3.

with Johnny
foostu4 17/May/17 AltLd rpt
quickdrawmcraw 14/May/17 Lead

Q . How did that tree move along the crag. A. Because you are doing kestrel cracks not claptons crack.

with anna, Amy121
benjaminwhite001 06/May/17 Lead

Thought it was claptons crack! Good route though if a tad overgrown.

simeclimb68 30/Apr/17 AltLd rpt
with Dave holland
Harry Ellis 05/Apr/17 AltLd

P1 only mistaken for Clapton's crack good pitch though

with james gibson
cem 04/Feb/17 AltLd rpt

Led p1 & 2 this time.

Kirill 04/Feb/17 AltLd
Mark Reeves ?/Feb/17 -
Dizz 02/Jan/17 2nd rpt
with EJ
Hidden ??/2017 -
Alex Riley 25/Nov/16 Lead O/S
neal 19/Oct/16 AltLd O/S

Led p3 (ran p1&2 together). P1 was fantastic sustained bridging. P3 stiff starting crack. Showery day, P1 would stay dry, p3 wouldn't (but was dry when we did it).

with Paul Dickson
paulsross 02/Oct/16 Lead

Fell at P1 overhang due to foot slipping. Got straight back on an did it clean. P2 was a jungle, hardly any rock visible.

with Phil Biglands
katiet 25/Sep/16 2nd

Did the first pitch as we thought we were on Claptons Crack and abseiled off as wasn't sure of the route. Loved this pitch though!

Mattskeet1982 LC&CC 23/Sep/16 AltLd O/S
with rob hunt
Hidden 13/Aug/16 AltLd O/S
James corfe 10/Aug/16 -

Did by mistake thought we were on a bs 4c and my pitch was suppose to be 4a ended up 5a still did it

SteveM 25/Jun/16 AltLd
with Dave Clarke
Rob McGurk 23/Jun/16 Lead O/S

Was looking for Clapton's. Glad I'm not the only one! Sustained, and the move through the overhang was hard.

with Alice
AliceJS 23/Jun/16 2nd
with Rob
GwilymR 18/Jun/16 Lead O/S
with Jammy
Hidden 18/Jun/16 AltLd
Anti-faff 07/Jun/16 Lead

First pitch only.

with Mike
DubyaJamesDubya 10/Apr/16 AltLd O/S

Joe led 1st pitch

with Joe Harris
brockers 19/Mar/16 Lead

good route. I thought p1 was a cracker. Top pitch was good, but crux a bit short.. Easy for HVS, but definitely HVS

Dave Almond 15/Mar/16 AltLd O/S
frost 15/Mar/16 AltLd
Andrew Sloan 14/Mar/16 AltLd O/S

This would get 3 stars anywhere else. Led top pitch which I found strenuous. The first pitch was pretty gnarly for 4c.

Martin Haworth 14/Mar/16 AltLd O/S
with Andy
Hidden ??/2016 -
greedo ??/2016 2nd
with Colin knowles
Mike Roger ??/2016 -
Twid Turner ??/2016 -
Climbingspike ??/2016 -
08nbrierley 17/Sep/15 AltLd O/S
with jonny
Lenny 14/Jun/15 AltLd O/S
with James. D
Hidden 25/May/15 Lead
masa-alpin 17/May/15 AltLd O/S

Aimed for Clapton's Crack, but we realised we were on this route after P1. Both pitches are pretty good – it'd be easily 3-star if there was no bush-bashing middle section. Found it to be hard for the grade, more like E1 5b.

with Kim H
bwestwood 26/Mar/15 AltLd
pie_eater_pete 26/Mar/15 AltLd O/S
Sardien 15/Mar/15 AltLd O/S
with Helena Robinson
mrginna 09/Feb/15 2nd O/S

Forgot climbing shoes

with Stu P
foostu4 09/Feb/15 Lead O/S

Excellent route, highly recommend! Wonderful 3D climbing on the first pitch. Third is quite fighty at the start.

Darron ??/2015 -
jcw ??/2015 -
MarkRoe 30/Oct/14 AltLd O/S

Done in two pitches linking the first and second pitch as one. Lead Pitch 2.

with Smithy
Lucylou19 05/Sep/14 AltLd

Pitch 1

with Pete Frost, Jeannie Sherwood
Hidden 05/Sep/14 2nd dog
Pete_Frost 05/Sep/14 AltLd rpt

Nice route. The overhang at the top of P1 is best solved by patience: face the slab and don't ignore the huge foot hold by your bum on the arete. The start of P3 is strenuous but the gear is good. Try finishing direct up the slabby wall at the top: this is what the friction must have been like across the whole of the cliff before it was climbed.

with Jeannie Sherwood, Lucy Sutton
gladys 24/Aug/14 2nd

w Paul

will moy 19/Aug/14 Lead O/S
StevieJ 18/Aug/14 2nd
with C3, lithos
C3 18/Aug/14 2nd
lithos 18/Aug/14 Lead

oops looking for Clapton's didn't think it looked like a Dihedral! I enjoyed P1, with an awkward move around overhang at the top. Very traditional bridging. P2 we knew we were off route but didn't knoow what (I had my suspicions) Polished foothold was interesting! steep but soon relents at top of initial groove.

with steve j, ccc
caradoc 29/Jun/14 AltLd O/S

Interesting route, very 3D first pitch, quite perplexing in places. P3 was easier than anticipated although the polished foothold is a slippery trap.View at..

with Matt H.
Pinguville 12/Jun/14 2nd O/S
with George
George_Surf 12/Jun/14 Lead O/S

Steep chimney/ corner crack was good with tricky crux by the roof. Both cracks on the top pitch were short but strenuous. Very hot day.

JamesWilliams 30/May/14 AltLd O/S

Lead pitch 2. bottom pitch best climbed by bridging. the second pitch has an awkward start but soon eases

adamre12 30/May/14 AltLd O/S
valentinesbabe 14/May/14 AltLd O/S

Love this route. Charley led P1 which I've led previously and I found it harder this time, maybe because I'm fairly unfit at the moment. I led P2 which I've 2nded before and also led P3 which I looked at last time but couldn't commit to more than the first move back then. Went up it this time and it is very committing but there's good gear when you need it. Excellent pitch and a great climb.

Tithe Technique 14/May/14 2nd O/S
charley 14/May/14 AltLd O/S

Led P1! Lovely climb with two good pitches.

with Ange, Kev
maria85 05/May/14 AltLd O/S

Not sure why this is 2*? The bottom pitch is a dirty choss fest, the top is polished to a shine and the middle jungle just adds to the crapness... Led P1.

with Jules
Rockmonkey1977 04/May/14 2nd
MichaelGallimore 03/May/14 Lead O/S

A real delight to climb! The bottom pitch required a really 3D approach with a tough and cramped up crux through the roof. I think I pirroetted. Must have cleaned up pretty well since last person climbed it- not chossy and no problems with loose rock. Top pitch was harder but in total contrast. Happened upon this route accidentally, we only realised we weren't on Clapton Crack at the first belay. 2 stars all the way. probably best climbed as a 2 pitch route.

with Joel eaton
Flavio 03/May/14 AltLd O/S
pftom 20/Apr/14 AltLd O/S

Lead P2 & P3

Hidden 30/Mar/14 Lead
andyclimber 30/Mar/14 2nd O/S
Si ??/2014 -
Hidden 18/Oct/13 2nd
Teappleby 13/Oct/13 AltLd
MSchobitz 13/Oct/13 Lead O/S
amccann 12/Oct/13 Lead O/S

Led, but simul climbed it with Matt about 10m behind.

Matthew Ferrier 12/Oct/13 2nd O/S

Simul climbed. We had wanted to do Valerie's Rib but didn't approach the right way (no guidebook), thought this looked good so we did it. Ventured right into The Neb at the final headwall which was good and exposed.

Hidden 30/Sep/13 AltLd
saraguti 22/Sep/13 Lead O/S

lead second pitch. running out time and getting dark so rick just'' did the crux pitch, as he quite rightly put it.

with rick sewards
Hidden 14/Sep/13 2nd
GOS 01/Sep/13 AltLd O/S

GC P1 - sustained and overhung; I P2(grassy)P3 (tough start then eases)

Hidden 01/Sep/13 Lead O/S 23/Aug/13 Lead dnf

led first pitch, if you go up the crack or rather seam on the right wall as per guide book then the first pitch felt pretty reasonable at 5a? certainly a very stiff 4c. Ab off the first pitch

Simon Cahill 23/Aug/13 2nd dnf

Pitch 1 only, very hard for 4c, crux getting around overhang at the top of the pitch.

Hidden 23/Aug/13 Lead O/S
adam06 11/Aug/13 AltLd

led the top pitch this time. have led the bottom one in the past

with chris white
woody0606 10/Aug/13 AltLd

Backed off the first pitch and let Kyle have all the fun. Led only the horrific vegetated middle pitch in the end.

Kyle87 10/Aug/13 AltLd O/S

P1 & 3, banging route - wish I could live on it

JanBella 24/Jul/13 2nd RP
with pete
jgordon75 12/Jul/13 Lead O/S
with Rod Gritten
Theo Moore - UKC and UKH ?/Jul/13 AltLd O/S
Hidden ?/Jul/13 AltLd O/S
guisboro andy ?/Jul/13 AltLd
Hidden 11/Jun/13 AltLd
iwanap 10/Jun/13 2nd dog

Found the first pitch strenuous and the second pitch difficult

with Gerwyn
Pero 03/Jun/13 AltLd O/S
cem 03/Jun/13 AltLd O/S

Led p3. Pero ran p 1 & 2 together

Roisin ?/Jun/13 -
JamesLloyd 24/May/13 2nd dnf

Brilliant first pitch but didn't have time to finish the rest!

Ray Sparks 22/May/13 AltLd rpt
with mike b
pebbles 18/May/13 AltLd

me p1, david p2,3 (ran them together)

with peri cheale, david williams
DavidR 06/May/13 AltLd O/S

Pitch 1 - Hol; pitch 2 - me.

MikeLeeds 05/May/13 AltLd
Hidden 05/May/13 AltLd O/S
Hidden 04/May/13 AltLd
eduardo 27/Apr/13 AltLd rpt

Lead first pitch.

with Mark H
Steve Woollard 20/Apr/13 2nd
with Andy Owen
kasha_gregson 19/Apr/13 2nd
with Bram
BTphonehome 19/Apr/13 Lead O/S
with Kasha
victim of mathematics 06/Apr/13 AltLd O/S

Led P3. Easy for HVS, but not easy. P1 is brilliant 3D weirdness.

Leelogs 06/Apr/13 AltLd O/S

Led P1

with SCC, Colin
kitch22 01/Apr/13 Lead O/S
jezb1 12/Mar/13 AltLd

Lead the top pitch. The awkward crack was... awkward. Went up and down in it a few times before getting on with it....

Hidden 12/Mar/13 -
simeclimb68 02/Mar/13 AltLd rpt
with Ed Mtchell
edmitchell 02/Mar/13 AltLd O/S
with Simon Palmer
Abi Chard 01/Mar/13 AltLd O/S
with Ian
Hidden 16/Feb/13 Lead dnf
adie84 ??/2013 -
Mr-Cowdrey 27/Oct/12 AltLd O/S
with chris ridgers
Hidden 27/Oct/12 AltLd O/S
Ray Sparks 20/Oct/12 Lead O/S
with adam C
Hidden 07/Oct/12 2nd
fizzychewitt 06/Oct/12 AltLd
with Phil
wynaptomos 29/Sep/12 2nd O/S
Mario Grabinski 08/Sep/12 AltLd

Led second pitch.

Rampikino 08/Sep/12 AltLd
with Mario Grabinski
mynyddresident 22/Aug/12 AltLd rpt
with gerallt
Gerallt Owain 22/Aug/12 AltLd O/S
with Nick
Hidden 20/Aug/12 2nd O/S
Jones_88 12/Aug/12 2nd
Hidden ?/Jul/12 AltLd
carl_123 24/Jun/12 2nd O/S
Hidden 24/Jun/12 Lead O/S
Rich Kay 17/Jun/12 AltLd
with Dave G
TCarrick 02/Jun/12 2nd

Attempted first pitch, backed off under the first overhang :(

Will Williams 20/May/12 AltLd O/S
Jones_88 06/May/12 Lead

Only lead p1.

keith leonard 06/May/12 AltLd
Hidden 05/May/12 AltLd rpt
guy757 28/Apr/12 Lead
mhawk 21/Apr/12 AltLd O/S
Hidden 21/Apr/12 AltLd O/S
Ollie B 21/Apr/12 AltLd O/S

P1. Started up thinking it was claptons.

with G.Lancashire
pete johnson 15/Apr/12 -
with Lun
BenRyle 20/Mar/12 AltLd O/S
Stroppy 17/Mar/12 AltLd

P1 Then got lost, got the top somehow no idea what we actually climbed

Hidden ??/2012 -
Hidden 05/Nov/11 AltLd O/S
vinspin 25/Sep/11 AltLd O/S
with ritchie
ritchierich 25/Sep/11 AltLd rpt

First pitch for me this this.

with Vinny
Hidden 06/Sep/11 2nd
riff156 28/Aug/11 Lead O/S
with Sandra de Sousa
Hidden ?/Aug/11 Lead
Hidden ?/Aug/11 AltLd
Lawrie Brand 31/Jul/11 AltLd O/S
with Tom Sampson, Matt Etheridge
Hidden 27/Jul/11 Lead O/S
nathan.ling 13/Jul/11 Lead O/S
with Joe Wilden
Hidden 12/Jul/11 2nd β
chris smith 25/Jun/11 Lead O/S
Hidden 17/Jun/11 Lead
Hidden 16/Jun/11 2nd
spidey 04/Jun/11 2nd
with adam
theotherpetehill 01/Jun/11 AltLd

I led P1, Chris P2

chrisallan 31/May/11 AltLd dog
Danjones 31/May/11 AltLd O/S

Led first pitch, second pitch tricky start to corner, but good gear.

with Steve Keys
hedgehog77 28/May/11 AltLd

Really good route, fell off top pitch not recommended to Carry a bag. Maybe no falls next time, ehhhh!

with ratty
Hidden 22/May/11 AltLd O/S
dan ely 22/May/11 AltLd rpt
with mark westerman
Hidden 01/May/11 AltLd O/S
tonanf ?/May/11 Lead
with j
Hidden 30/Apr/11 2nd
Hidden 30/Apr/11 Lead O/S
justin burgoyne 28/Mar/11 AltLd O/S

Lead 5a pitch it dried out in time after bad Weather

with Gary Chekansky
dan ely 04/Mar/11 Lead O/S
with jason
Dizz 20/Feb/11 AltLd

HVS in new guidebook. Led first and third.

NB Pixel 20/Feb/11 AltLd O/S

Fantastic airy first pitch; head game. 3rd pitch strenuous crack (fingerlock). I led 2nd pitch- scrappy- Liz led all the hard bits!

with DizLiz
Hidden 22/Jan/11 AltLd O/S
popov86 20/Jan/11 AltLd
Hidden ??/2011 -
alasdair19 ??/2011 -
Tim Sparrow ??/2011 -
PAJames ??/2011 -
PAJames ??/2011 -
quarrtman1 14/Nov/10 2nd
with mills
mr mills 14/Nov/10 Lead O/S
with Chris
bobpilgrem 16/Oct/10 AltLd O/S

Great route.P1 steep and sustained at top- but never to strenuous as you can chimney/bridge to surmont the overhang/bulge.P3 Initial crack harder than it looks- slippery jam/faith in friction for right foot to reach a good hold- rest of pitch in a great position and straightforward.Suggest HVS as per new guide book.

with Bob/Tom
tompilgrem 16/Oct/10 AltLd O/S

Lead p2 , great route.

with Dad
mynyddresident 06/Oct/10 AltLd

Very good

with ben
daveclarke5 27/Jul/10 2nd O/S
with Andy
schof 14/Jul/10 AltLd O/S
Glyn 12/Jul/10 AltLd O/S
Hidden ?/Jul/10 -
hepitt 17/May/10 Lead rpt
with Rob Pitt
Rob Pitt 17/May/10 2nd
with Helen Pitt
Tomprusk 09/May/10 Lead O/S

Bottom pitch fun, awkward and loose. Top pitch thugish and fun!

with Dad
Philippa Arding 28/Apr/10 Lead

backed off under the roof, raining.

richardr 28/Apr/10 Lead O/S
Hidden 24/Apr/10 AltLd O/S
dan-8990 16/Apr/10 Lead O/S
with NM
halfmanhalfbiscuit ?/Apr/10 Lead O/S
zero six ?/Apr/10 Lead O/S
RachelP 14/Feb/10 2nd

a touch polished in places

with Chris
Ed Causton ??/2010 -
philw ??/2010 -
philw ??/2010 -
simeclimb68 ??/2010 -
Hidden ??/2010 -
mike_uk82 17/Oct/09 TR dnf
valentinesbabe 04/Oct/09 Lead O/S

Only did P1 and P2 then lowered off after a few attempts at the 5a P3, just didn't have the strength required for the move...we were actually looking for the start of Christmas Curry when we ended up doing this as our first climb!!! :D

chumleywarner 04/Oct/09 2nd dnf

only first 2 pitches, was a little rough on the last pitch

Hidden 14/Aug/09 Lead
Hidden 13/Jun/09 Lead O/S
Richie Rich 30/May/09 AltLd rpt

P2 for me

with Pete Colley
Peeley.b 23/May/09 AltLd O/S

I lead 1st and second pitch. Took a fall on first moves of 3rd pitch. Aid lead 3rd pitch to finish seconded by me with a fracture to my Heel spur!! Ouch!

with Aidan Bennett
Conan 23/May/09 AltLd O/S

Strenuous and tricky top pitch but well protected.

with Philippa Reader
Different Steve 08/May/09 AltLd O/S

Led P2 & P3 in 1

with Clare
Hidden 18/Apr/09 AltLd
Giles-Caradog ?/Apr/09 AltLd O/S
Dave Rumney 01/Mar/09 AltLd
with Tanya Milner
Seymore Butt ??/2009 -
Hidden 21/Sep/08 AltLd
Karlos 21/Sep/08 AltLd O/S

First pitch up broken(ish) corner to beneath overhang. Lots of good nuts at this point, but watch for loose blocks. Gaining overhang a bit pumpy, requiring a wide bridge. Looking down route looks very steep. Second pitch only a scramble. Led third pitch, looked okay but was found to be quite hard work, as the crack puches you over on to the blank right wall. Good gear tho, if you can place it.

with Mark, Kate
Goose4 26/May/08 Lead O/S
with Jon Holland
nickwhimster ?/May/08 -
with Brian Cox
ritchierich 04/Mar/08 AltLd O/S
Hidden 04/Mar/08 AltLd O/S
Dan 85 27/Jan/08 Lead O/S
nic42 26/Jan/08 Lead O/S
with dru
Hidden 25/Jan/08 AltLd O/S
willson ??/2008 AltLd O/S
Hidden ??/2008 AltLd O/S
Hidden 08/Oct/07 -
K Wall 23/Jun/07 AltLd
with Martin
KarlH 13/May/07 Lead O/S

Great crack and chimney climb. Good fun.

with Tom Hales
Hidden 05/May/07 AltLd dog
ebunick 02/Mar/07 AltLd O/S
with Alan
Hidden 27/Aug/06 2nd
Hidden 27/Aug/06 AltLd
ritchierich 11/Aug/06 AltLd rpt
sgl0jd ?/Jul/06 AltLd

more like E3 in the rain

with Tom Devas
Hidden ?/May/06 Lead
Hidden ??/2006 -
Hidden ??/2006 -
Hidden ??/2006 Lead O/S
ritchierich 18/Aug/05 Lead dnf

I did first pitch but Ritchie decided that was enough for him.

with Ritchie Griffiths
sammoore ?/Jun/05 Lead O/S
with Matt Seaman
MikeLeeds 25/Mar/05 AltLd O/S
clive-greenwood 25/Mar/05 AltLd
Hidden ??/2005 Lead
maria85 31/Oct/04 2nd
with Ronnie and ?
Hidden ?/Oct/04 2nd
samwelli 11/Aug/03 AltLd O/S
with Steve Hobbs
John Kettle ??/2003 AltLd
Just Another Dave ??/2002 Lead O/S
Kerm ?/Sep/01 AltLd
chrishedgehog 15/Aug/00 Lead O/S
with Joe Thompson
Hidden 20/Jul/00 2nd O/S
daviesxxx ??/2000 Lead
daviesxxx ??/2000 Lead
Ched ??/1997 Lead O/S
with Glanfor
jmr 05/Oct/96 Lead
with Guillaume
Hidden 07/Jul/96 Lead O/S
Tim Bateman 14/May/95 AltLd
Hidden ??/1993 Lead
Hidden 21/Jul/92 Lead
michael burrows 02/Dec/90 AltLd O/S
with brian jones
Hidden ??/1990 -
Hidden ??/1990 -
Paul Clarke ??/1990 AltLd
with Unsure
RichardMc 11/Nov/89 Lead
with Jon Clifford-Smith
Pete Nugent 30/May/88 -
with Mike Bullough, Ian Makin
Martin Bennett 30/Jan/88 -
with MT
The Reaper 16/Aug/86 AltLd
Melok ??/1985 AltLd
andy gittins ??/1985 -
Pete Nugent 17/Jun/84 AltLd O/S
Hidden 07/Apr/84 AltLd O/S
Robmwatt ??/1984 -
Gordon Stainforth 16/Jul/83 AltLd

As a warm up ...

with Robert Barton
neilh 16/May/83 2nd
with dave croker
nigehughes ?/Sep/82 AltLd
with Eric Joyce
Neil McA 13/Feb/82 Solo
GordonHart ??/1982 Lead O/S
andy gittins ??/1982 -
Andy Fielding 15/Sep/81 AltLd
with Mike Gilbert
Ghastly Rubberfeet ??/1981 Lead
mark-abz 19/Oct/80 Lead
with Graham W
Neil R 18/Jun/80 AltLd
with David M
Hidden ??/1980 Lead
Ian Clare ??/1980 -
Rob Davies 01/Aug/78 Lead
with Angus McLean
telemark ??/1978 AltLd
with Len Marlowe
rogerskews ?/Apr/77 -
with Macclesfield CC Members
RichardMc 13/Mar/77 Lead
with Daphne Pritchard
Ian Jones ??/1977 Lead O/S
with ?
kjacks ??/1976 Lead
with Lol Fletcher
Bolt Phobia 30/Nov/75 Lead O/S
Martin Bennett 30/Oct/75 -
with JD
Steve Lewis 10/Oct/75 2nd
with Nick
granitbahn ??/1975 AltLd
tapley 03/Jun/71 AltLd
with Dave Hearnshaw
mikej 19/Apr/68 Lead
with Ian Clayton
Hidden 11/Sep/66 Lead
Hidden 25/Jul/66 AltLd
uphillnow ??/1965 AltLd

done as a v s. Several times since

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