76m, 3 pitches. An enjoyable route on steep rock. Start by scrambling up to the foot of the orange patch.

P1 4a: 21m Climb directly up past the orange streaks to belay in a niche.
P2 4b: 18m Climb the wall above, trending left where necessary. Surmount eh little overhang to reach a ledge and block.
P3: 37m Walk to the rib on the right and follow to the top, or scramble left to join the descent.

a j j moulam, j m barr 12/Apr/1953

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Matt Alexander 4 May Show βeta
βeta: Could not find the second belay. Looking back we did the second pitch of Crossover as we followed the topo rather than the description. Ended up belaying half way up the scramble as limited placements (terrible rope drag!).
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βeta: Could not find the second belay. Looking back we did the second pitch of Crossover as we followed the topo rather than the description. Ended up belaying half way up the scramble as limited placements (terrible rope drag!).
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mattgrange 5 May Lead rpt Led both this time. Slightly wandering line with little gear up to the belay niche which has a reasonable peg and obvious thread. Then repeated my error from climbing Crossover and went right instead of left! More knowledgeable observers managed to put me straight. Go left and through/round the small overlap with low threads. There's an in situ ab/belay point but it is easy to scramble off behind and left of this to the descent gully.
with Michael Woolcott
Led both this time. Slightly wandering line with little gear up to the belay niche which has a reasonable peg and obvious thread. Then repeated my error from climbing Crossover and went right instead of left! More knowledgeable observers managed to put me straight. Go left and through/round the small overlap with low threads. There's an in situ ab/belay point but it is easy to scramble off behind and left of this to the descent gully.
with Michael Woolcott
Dirty Knees 4 May 2nd rpt Poss 2nd pitch crossover...
Poss 2nd pitch crossover...
Hidden 4 May Lead O/S
Glenn2732 ?May -
JohnDexter 24 Apr AltLd O/S
with Griff
with Griff
hazeysunshine 20 Apr AltLd rpt
Max Streeton 15 Oct, 2018 Lead Took up James, new to trad climbing
with James Sharpe
Took up James, new to trad climbing
with James Sharpe
RichardMcN 5 Aug, 2018 2nd
AngelaC 5 Aug, 2018 AltLd
jcdavy 22 Jul, 2018 AltLd
with Alaina
with Alaina
Alaina 22 Jul, 2018 AltLd
with jcdavy
with jcdavy
chriswood ??, 2018 -
Simon Holland 13 Sep, 2017 Lead O/S Multi Pitch
with Jodie
Multi Pitch
with Jodie
simeclimb68 5 Aug, 2017 Lead O/S
with Jane Robbins
with Jane Robbins
Hidden 5 Aug, 2017 2nd
Pinguville 25 May, 2017 AltLd O/S led p2 , was really nice cool pocketed rock , crux was not bad at all , felt easier than slack ... just a bit fiddly with gear before the move , escaped onto the path off the side after
led p2 , was really nice cool pocketed rock , crux was not bad at all , felt easier than slack ... just a bit fiddly with gear before the move , escaped onto the path off the side after
Emily_vau 25 May, 2017 Lead
George_Surf 25 May, 2017 2nd rpt seemed easy for HS the holds and pockets are big, escaped after p2
seemed easy for HS the holds and pockets are big, escaped after p2
radddogg 11 Sep, 2016 AltLd
with Tom Richards
with Tom Richards
Hidden 20 Aug, 2016 2nd O/S
Lucylou19 30 May, 2016 Lead Pitch 1 & 2 only due to thinking we were on Pinky! woops
with Joanne Hacking, eleanor
Pitch 1 & 2 only due to thinking we were on Pinky! woops
with Joanne Hacking, eleanor
keitht 19 Mar, 2016 AltLd
with Steve Crossley
with Steve Crossley
Climbingspike ??, 2016 -
Allanfairfechan ??, 2016 Solo
Emily_vau 10 Nov, 2015 2nd
Hidden 18 Oct, 2015 2nd
George_Surf 10 Oct, 2015 Lead
Emily_vau 10 Oct, 2015 2nd
Hidden 25 May, 2015 Lead O/S
vinspin 17 Apr, 2015 AltLd O/S
with kaz
with kaz
Hidden ?Apr, 2015 2nd O/S
Christopher_W 28 Sep, 2014 AltLd O/S
StevieJ 16 Aug, 2014 AltLd Led the crux 1st and 3rd pitch
with lithos
Led the crux 1st and 3rd pitch
with lithos
lithos 16 Aug, 2014 AltLd P2, Steve did P1 which i thought the most technical with a poorly protected crux. P2 was a delight and funky holds
with StevieJ
P2, Steve did P1 which i thought the most technical with a poorly protected crux. P2 was a delight and funky holds
with StevieJ
Puma 16 Aug, 2014 AltLd A minor route finding error lead to simon climbing P1 and P3 of the route but me climbing p2 of crossover! Never mind we then climbed p1 of crossover and p2 of orange outang
A minor route finding error lead to simon climbing P1 and P3 of the route but me climbing p2 of crossover! Never mind we then climbed p1 of crossover and p2 of orange outang
Simon Caldwell 16 Aug, 2014 AltLd O/S I led p1 and p3. Followed the (incorrect) topo in the guide, so p2 was borrowed from Crossover. Did the correct p2 later, with p1 of Crossover. P1 was hard and bold.
with Puma
I led p1 and p3. Followed the (incorrect) topo in the guide, so p2 was borrowed from Crossover. Did the correct p2 later, with p1 of Crossover. P1 was hard and bold.
with Puma
v1brownie ??, 2014 -
mattgrange 26 Aug, 2013 AltLd Led pitch 2, nice exposure, a good steep wall experience
Led pitch 2, nice exposure, a good steep wall experience
Hidden 25 Aug, 2013 2nd
ads 24 Aug, 2013 AltLd
Hidden 6 Aug, 2013 AltLd O/S
alicee 25 Jul, 2013 AltLd
bantamdave 14 Jul, 2013 AltLd O/S Got in a mess as I climed all but the last pitch in one go. Climbed well above my grear and could not find suitable protection. Completed it eventually !
with Ken
Got in a mess as I climed all but the last pitch in one go. Climbed well above my grear and could not find suitable protection. Completed it eventually !
with Ken
Hidden 6 Jul, 2013 AltLd
Hidden 20 Apr, 2013 AltLd O/S
Rog Wilko 20 Apr, 2013 Lead Some excellent climbing on this route. Probably best to run pitches 1 & 2 together then ab off as the top pitch is rather a drag, as is the descent gully.
with Debbie Wilkinson
Some excellent climbing on this route. Probably best to run pitches 1 & 2 together then ab off as the top pitch is rather a drag, as is the descent gully.
with Debbie Wilkinson
Hidden 21 Mar, 2013 2nd O/S
GAshby 18 Mar, 2013 Lead O/S
Hidden 8 Sep, 2012 Lead
Hidden 8 Sep, 2012 2nd
jaycloth16 10 Aug, 2012 Lead O/S V good climb liked the start and run to second belay! Slight variation to make a 4b/4c move.
with Jan Matthews
V good climb liked the start and run to second belay! Slight variation to make a 4b/4c move.
with Jan Matthews
Hidden ?Aug, 2012 AltLd
ema 28 Jul, 2012 AltLd
Joshthomas 28 Jul, 2012 AltLd O/S
moelfras 14 May, 2012 Lead
Hidden 12 May, 2012 2nd
fizzychewitt 18 Mar, 2012 AltLd
with Martin
with Martin
Hidden 12 Mar, 2012 -
jezb1 12 Mar, 2012 AltLd P1. Not sure if we did the proper route? Up through heather onto good rock and belayed higher up by a peg.. Nice rock.
P1. Not sure if we did the proper route? Up through heather onto good rock and belayed higher up by a peg.. Nice rock.
Hidden ??, 2012 Lead O/S
Callum Anderson ??, 2012 -
Hidden 15 Nov, 2011 Lead
Lotte Stuer 16 Jul, 2011 2nd
Lawrie Brand 12 Jul, 2011 Solo O/S
George_Surf 11 Jul, 2011 AltLd O/S Good fun route with good, committing holds up steep rock. I led p2 4b past the overhang. Midge infestation so we bailed after p2 and exited to the left to join the descent route (p3 looked like a long easy pitch up the rib to the top)
with Toni87
Good fun route with good, committing holds up steep rock. I led p2 4b past the overhang. Midge infestation so we bailed after p2 and exited to the left to join the descent route (p3 looked like a long easy pitch up the rib to the top)
with Toni87
Porius 4 Jul, 2011 2nd
Hidden 3 Jul, 2011 -
hazeysunshine 3 Jul, 2011 AltLd O/S
with Fred
with Fred
jossjones 26 Jun, 2011 Lead O/S
marc1967 4 May, 2011 2nd O/S
with Steve Keys
with Steve Keys
dave4430 3 May, 2011 Lead O/S
MBarraclough 30 Apr, 2011 2nd O/S
Cat Lawrence 27 Apr, 2011 AltLd
Dirty Knees 27 Apr, 2011 2nd
Hidden 27 Mar, 2011 AltLd O/S
Hidden 26 Mar, 2011 2nd
Hidden 26 Mar, 2011 2nd
cem 26 Mar, 2011 AltLd O/S Led p 1 & 3
with Isabel Hadley, Charles Mason
Led p 1 & 3
with Isabel Hadley, Charles Mason
Hidden 26 Mar, 2011 Lead O/S
Hidden 24 Mar, 2011 AltLd O/S
ritchierich 24 Mar, 2011 AltLd O/S 1st Pitch for me Sera wanted to try the harder stuff.
with sera
1st Pitch for me Sera wanted to try the harder stuff.
with sera
danex ??, 2011 2nd
Hidden ??, 2011 -
Rob Evans ??, 2011 Lead O/S
Monkey_Alan 10 Oct, 2010 AltLd O/S Led P1. Interesting rock.
with risby
Led P1. Interesting rock.
with risby
risby 10 Oct, 2010 AltLd O/S Led second pitch
Led second pitch
gaz186 29 Jul, 2010 2nd O/S
with Daz Read
with Daz Read
fizzychewitt 13 Jun, 2010 AltLd
with Francis
with Francis
SGD 31 May, 2010 Lead O/S Led in one pitch. Just to reiterate previous comments. The topo in the guide book is wrong. follow the route descrition and head for the little overhang on P2. The bottom of the 1st pitch is getting a bit bushy
with vholmes
Led in one pitch. Just to reiterate previous comments. The topo in the guide book is wrong. follow the route descrition and head for the little overhang on P2. The bottom of the 1st pitch is getting a bit bushy
with vholmes
ritchierich 23 May, 2010 AltLd O/S Did P2 and scramble to the top.
with Jim Williams
Did P2 and scramble to the top.
with Jim Williams
crag_monster ?May, 2010 AltLd
with edpd1b
with edpd1b
crag_monster ?May, 2010 AltLd
with edpd1b
with edpd1b
edpd1b ?May, 2010 AltLd
groovy_nut 17 Apr, 2010 AltLd O/S P1. Meirionnyd guide is deceptive as the route description and the diagram differ - we chose to believe the route description and climbed to the left on the second pitch, past the 'small overhang' which I guess is what gives the route its name. The guide diagram shows the second pitch to head rightwards - where we believe to be the second pitch of 'crossover' (and if you look at the picture all of a sudden this will make sense as the two routes will then indeed cross over!)
P1. Meirionnyd guide is deceptive as the route description and the diagram differ - we chose to believe the route description and climbed to the left on the second pitch, past the 'small overhang' which I guess is what gives the route its name. The guide diagram shows the second pitch to head rightwards - where we believe to be the second pitch of 'crossover' (and if you look at the picture all of a sudden this will make sense as the two routes will then indeed cross over!)
sionjosh ??, 2010 -
Hidden ??, 2010 -
Hidden ??, 2010 -
Hidden ?Oct, 2009 AltLd O/S
Hidden ?Sep, 2009 2nd O/S
paulerussell 29 Aug, 2009 2nd O/S
with cpoad
with cpoad
cpoad 29 Aug, 2009 Lead rpt Think I did the wall to the right on the second pitch by mistake which made it slightly easier
Think I did the wall to the right on the second pitch by mistake which made it slightly easier
knthrak1982 22 Aug, 2009 2nd O/S
Ralfy 18 Jul, 2009 AltLd O/S Renamed Agent Orange. Green, wet and S*IT!!!
with Owen
Renamed Agent Orange. Green, wet and S*IT!!!
with Owen
OwenEvans 18 Jul, 2009 AltLd Horrible first pitch, very overgrown and no fun working through the heather. The route should be renamed 'Agent Orange Needed'.
with Phil Ralphs
Horrible first pitch, very overgrown and no fun working through the heather. The route should be renamed 'Agent Orange Needed'.
with Phil Ralphs
Hidden 30 May, 2009 AltLd O/S
The Ivanator 28 May, 2009 AltLd O/S
Hidden 28 May, 2009 AltLd
Matt Bill Platypus 24 May, 2009 Lead O/S
valentinesbabe 24 May, 2009 2nd O/S
matt.woodfield 24 May, 2009 AltLd
Neil Metcalfe101 11 Apr, 2009 AltLd
with Allan Mac
with Allan Mac
Adam1973 11 Apr, 2009 Lead O/S
chedder 11 Apr, 2009 Lead
with fiona moore
with fiona moore
stewart murray 11 Apr, 2009 2nd O/S
MarkFoster ??, 2009 -
paulerussell 24 Aug, 2008 AltLd O/S Chris lead one and two together - resulting in a lot of rope drag for him at the crux. I lead the final easy pitch.
with Chris (Jason's friend)
Chris lead one and two together - resulting in a lot of rope drag for him at the crux. I lead the final easy pitch.
with Chris (Jason's friend)
Rachael Barlow 26 Jul, 2008 Lead O/S
with Suzie Wilson
with Suzie Wilson
Hidden 26 Jul, 2008 2nd O/S
Hidden 24 Jul, 2008 AltLd O/S
Hidden 20 Jul, 2008 AltLd O/S
whiting.jp 20 Jul, 2008 Lead O/S Definitely some sustained route planning and gear finding challenges in the middle pitch. Very much felt like a 'proper' mountain route, only smaller.
with jamesca and paul
Definitely some sustained route planning and gear finding challenges in the middle pitch. Very much felt like a 'proper' mountain route, only smaller.
with jamesca and paul
paulerussell 20 Jul, 2008 AltLd O/S Wet and Rainy conditions made this entertaining. I led the 3rd pitch
with jamesca and whiting.jp
Wet and Rainy conditions made this entertaining. I led the 3rd pitch
with jamesca and whiting.jp
Hidden 6 Jul, 2008 2nd O/S
Martyn 9 May, 2008 AltLd O/S
with Ryan Simpson, Victoria Cassell
with Ryan Simpson, Victoria Cassell
Hidden 3 May, 2008 2nd
Rog Wilko 12 Feb, 2008 AltLd
with Matt Gordon
with Matt Gordon
taw ??, 2008 AltLd Led 1&3
with davesb
Led 1&3
with davesb
davesb ??, 2008 AltLd O/S
Hidden ??, 2008 AltLd
TrevorCruse 24 Aug, 2007 AltLd O/S Led 1st pitch
with Kris, Roger
Led 1st pitch
with Kris, Roger
eldre070 9 Jun, 2007 AltLd O/S I lead 2nd 4b pitch.
with Steve Williams
I lead 2nd 4b pitch.
with Steve Williams
Hidden 5 May, 2007 Lead O/S
MikeT ?May, 2007 Lead O/S
with MO
with MO
Hidden 18 Apr, 2007 AltLd rpt
Hidden 18 Apr, 2007 AltLd O/S
neilmackie 17 Apr, 2007 Lead O/S Good climb with ace pockets and threads. Drifted off route and on to Crossover slightly, but did essentially the right climb.
Good climb with ace pockets and threads. Drifted off route and on to Crossover slightly, but did essentially the right climb.
Hidden 17 Apr, 2007 2nd O/S
drjill 11 Apr, 2007 2nd pyb course
with jen from pyb
pyb course
with jen from pyb
Rich A-Wilkes 7 Apr, 2007 Lead O/S
with Moniawl
with Moniawl
Moniawl 7 Apr, 2007 2nd
Rob Davies 24 Mar, 2007 Lead
with Phil A
with Phil A
fran04 ??, 2007 Lead
mikelaing ?Sep, 2006 Lead O/S
cas54321 ?Sep, 2006 2nd
Hidden ?Aug, 2006 2nd
Dane 30 Jul, 2006 Lead β
with PYB Course
with PYB Course
Neil Metcalfe101 13 May, 2006 2nd O/S
with Allan Mac
with Allan Mac
Hidden ?Apr, 2006 2nd O/S
Hidden ?Apr, 2006 Lead
Ian McNeill ??, 2006 -
Little B 15 May, 2004 Lead O/S
with Jane
with Jane
Marq 11 Apr, 2004 AltLd
with Daniel Dennehy, Jonny M
with Daniel Dennehy, Jonny M
Jonny M ?Apr, 2004 AltLd O/S
with Marq
with Marq
Hidden 25 Aug, 2003 2nd
caradoc 19 Aug, 2003 Lead O/S
with nick yapp
with nick yapp
andygreen 18 Apr, 2003 AltLd O/S
John Kettle ??, 2003 Lead
mikej 15 Sep, 2002 AltLd
with Mike Byles
with Mike Byles
Hidden ??, 2001 2nd O/S
Hidden ??, 2000 Lead O/S
cpoad 4 Sep, 1999 Lead O/S
with Rob R
with Rob R
Howard J 1 May, 1999 Lead O/S
with Steve Astley
with Steve Astley
JohnH1977 ?Aug, 1997 Lead O/S
Hidden 6 Jul, 1997 2nd
lost.arrow 15 Jun, 1997 -
babymoac 7 Aug, 1994 Lead
with Ashley & Nick
with Ashley & Nick
Martin Bennett 27 Jun, 1993 -
with MT
with MT
Strong Steve 20 Mar, 1993 Lead O/S
Iain Thow 7 Nov, 1992 Lead Soloed 5/9/93
with Pram Singh
Soloed 5/9/93
with Pram Singh
jacque ?Sep, 1992 AltLd
with Heather
with Heather
Hidden 12 Oct, 1991 AltLd
migs493 12 Apr, 1991 Lead O/S
Hidden ??, 1990 -
nigehughes ?Jul, 1989 Lead
with John Roe, Paul Duckworth
with John Roe, Paul Duckworth
John Roe ?Jul, 1989 2nd
with Paul Duckworth, Nige Hughes
with Paul Duckworth, Nige Hughes
Hidden ?Sep, 1986 AltLd
Hidden ??, 1985 Lead O/S
Nigel Bond 5 Aug, 1984 Lead
with Rodger Edenborough
with Rodger Edenborough
Ghastly Rubberfeet ??, 1979 Lead
Mark Kemball 3 Sep, 1978 AltLd
with Richard Lang
with Richard Lang
John Marsland ??, 1977 2nd
with PyB
with PyB
kjacks ??, 1975 Lead
with Anthony Griffiths
with Anthony Griffiths
Hidden 15 Jun, 1974 AltLd O/S
Dave Musgrove 30 Sep, 1973 AltLd
with Dennis Gray
with Dennis Gray
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