A nice introduction into the Mess of Pottage style climbing. Technical, and a little thin for gear at the grade for the first pitch. Enjoyable throughout, however escape is an option into the gully on the left from several places after the pitch one.

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User Date Style Notes & Partners
Hidden 18 Mar AltLd O/S
Kirill 18 Mar AltLd
Hidden 17 Mar 2nd
bodovix 17 Mar AltLd O/S
BPaske 17 Mar AltLd
with bodovix
with bodovix
Harry Padley 6 Feb Lead O/S
jackhelliwell 4 Feb AltLd
NeilMur 3 Feb 2nd
Hidden 30 Jan AltLd
James Milton 30 Jan AltLd O/S Lead the first pitch, felt very sketchy, definitely too lean
with GGD
Lead the first pitch, felt very sketchy, definitely too lean
with GGD
Oliver Smaje 20 Jan Lead O/S
with Beth
with Beth
Hidden 20 Jan 2nd
dougp87 19 Jan AltLd O/S
thompsettjack 19 Jan AltLd rpt
with Finney
with Finney
mikeyjbs 19 Jan AltLd dog Axe popped just going up to the corner.
with Doug P
Axe popped just going up to the corner.
with Doug P
rashwell 3 Jan Lead
AndyDWilson 21 Dec, 2018 Lead
with Craig Deakan
with Craig Deakan
Brian Pollock 9 Dec, 2018 Lead O/S
with Alessandro
with Alessandro
ollyroberts 8 Dec, 2018 AltLd O/S Pitch 2
with Simon Brocklebank
Pitch 2
with Simon Brocklebank
Hidden 5 Dec, 2018 2nd rpt
Hannah Evans 5 Dec, 2018 2nd
with Scott Kirkhope, Dave ANderson
with Scott Kirkhope, Dave ANderson
MarkGrant 2 Dec, 2018 AltLd O/S Nice pitch 1, felt easy for the grade though
Nice pitch 1, felt easy for the grade though
william henderson 2 Dec, 2018 AltLd O/S
Hidden 31 Oct, 2018 AltLd
ModerateMatt 31 Oct, 2018 AltLd O/S Felt pretty techy today, in the early season conditions. Interesting climbing almost all the way to the top.
with Drew S
Felt pretty techy today, in the early season conditions. Interesting climbing almost all the way to the top.
with Drew S
Jack.H.92 18 Feb, 2018 AltLd
Matt Cooke 18 Feb, 2018 AltLd O/S
John McKenna 11 Feb, 2018 AltLd O/S A pretty shit line. No moves higher than 4
A pretty shit line. No moves higher than 4
Martin McKenna - UKC 11 Feb, 2018 AltLd O/S
Hidden 3 Feb, 2018 AltLd O/S
Hidden 3 Feb, 2018 AltLd O/S
George.D 25 Jan, 2018 2nd
Hidden 21 Jan, 2018 AltLd rpt
nvalentine760 21 Jan, 2018 AltLd O/S
thompsettjack 21 Jan, 2018 AltLd O/S
with jake
with jake
Kayan 21 Jan, 2018 AltLd
stevelismore 20 Jan, 2018 AltLd O/S I led first pitch-very delicate traverse across rocky ledge with thin dusting of snow, no axe placements and little gear. When I did finally find a bit of frozen turf the warthog got hammered in very tight. Then followed with leading second pitch up dihedral covered in verglas. Delicate climbing but reasonable gear for this. John led final pitch up snowy bank. Great climb-well pleased.
I led first pitch-very delicate traverse across rocky ledge with thin dusting of snow, no axe placements and little gear. When I did finally find a bit of frozen turf the warthog got hammered in very tight. Then followed with leading second pitch up dihedral covered in verglas. Delicate climbing but reasonable gear for this. John led final pitch up snowy bank. Great climb-well pleased.
dwc 20 Jan, 2018 AltLd O/S Led the upper section above the harder start. Ran out of rope in a disappointing place with the top in sight. Good job from Steve and his warthog on the initial sketchy traverse.
Led the upper section above the harder start. Ran out of rope in a disappointing place with the top in sight. Good job from Steve and his warthog on the initial sketchy traverse.
Hidden 10 Jan, 2018 Lead
guy127917 3 Jan, 2018 AltLd
OliverRoss 1 Jan, 2018 AltLd O/S Lead until end of corner then Alkis lead the top pitch. Powder low down meant the mental crux was stepping across to enter the corner. More consolidated snow and frozen turf from the top of the corner pitch.
with Alkis
Lead until end of corner then Alkis lead the top pitch. Powder low down meant the mental crux was stepping across to enter the corner. More consolidated snow and frozen turf from the top of the corner pitch.
with Alkis
Alkis 1 Jan, 2018 AltLd O/S Ollie led P1 and P2, I led P3.
Ollie led P1 and P2, I led P3.
Rhys Deane ?Jan, 2018 AltLd
Hidden 14 Dec, 2017 Lead O/S
mrbird 13 Dec, 2017 AltLd O/S
Gawyllie 13 Dec, 2017 AltLd
with mrbird
with mrbird
kipman725 10 Dec, 2017 - The direct start was too lean and so had to do the traverse in start.
The direct start was too lean and so had to do the traverse in start.
Hidden ?Dec, 2017 Lead
Andy Clark 26 Nov, 2017 AltLd
Hidden 26 Nov, 2017 AltLd
Hidden 25 Nov, 2017 AltLd
alexm198 25 Nov, 2017 AltLd O/S First pitch was quite entertaining, the rest of the route felt a little contrived since it was so escapable. On the soft side for IV 5. P1,3.
with Alex Slipchuk
First pitch was quite entertaining, the rest of the route felt a little contrived since it was so escapable. On the soft side for IV 5. P1,3.
with Alex Slipchuk
Robin Clothier 11 Nov, 2017 AltLd rpt
with Gordon Lacey
with Gordon Lacey
Gordon Lacey 11 Nov, 2017 AltLd
with Robin
with Robin
Hidden 17 Mar, 2017 2nd rpt
Jamie Skelton 3 Mar, 2017 AltLd O/S
with Jacob Phillips
with Jacob Phillips
Hidden 6 Feb, 2017 Lead rpt
chapmand 5 Jan, 2017 Lead O/S
Hidden 19 Nov, 2016 AltLd O/S
malone 19 Nov, 2016 AltLd
with Appleby
with Appleby
Al_Mac 18 Nov, 2016 Lead First route of the season with Siobhann. Not much rime but the ledges were white and the rock well verglassed. Start was awesome techy slab into the groove, with the upper twin grooves superb with more torques bomber hooks to pull on. High feet with some grovelling/thrutching were needed to work your feet up.
First route of the season with Siobhann. Not much rime but the ledges were white and the rock well verglassed. Start was awesome techy slab into the groove, with the upper twin grooves superb with more torques bomber hooks to pull on. High feet with some grovelling/thrutching were needed to work your feet up.
Siobhann 18 Nov, 2016 -
with Al_Mac
with Al_Mac
Marek Raganowicz 27 Mar, 2016 Lead
with Magda
with Magda
Hidden 9 Mar, 2016 2nd O/S
djdavies 9 Mar, 2016 2nd
Hidden 8 Mar, 2016 2nd O/S
Tarquin 7 Mar, 2016 -
Louvet 5 Mar, 2016 -
with Tarquin
with Tarquin
Tarquin 5 Mar, 2016 -
with Louvet
with Louvet
akhughes 1 Mar, 2016 Lead O/S Work
Work
mikecollins 27 Feb, 2016 AltLd O/S
Ste Ridd 27 Feb, 2016 AltLd
manmike 27 Feb, 2016 Lead
Hidden 27 Feb, 2016 2nd
annep 24 Feb, 2016 AltLd
with Joe
with Joe
JoeMortimer 24 Feb, 2016 AltLd
with annep
with annep
Hidden 23 Feb, 2016 2nd O/S
Hidden 22 Feb, 2016 AltLd
Hidden 22 Feb, 2016 2nd
Hidden 22 Feb, 2016 2nd O/S
Hidden 22 Feb, 2016 AltLd
Hidden 22 Feb, 2016 2nd O/S
guernseydan 21 Feb, 2016 2nd O/S The full scottish winter experience! Gusts of 75mph, poor vis and spindrift everywhere.
The full scottish winter experience! Gusts of 75mph, poor vis and spindrift everywhere.
waydan 8 Feb, 2016 AltLd O/S Fantastic climb
Fantastic climb
Chrismith 6 Feb, 2016 AltLd O/S First 10m was balls, ledge shuffling with a rucksack on and poor hooks/gear(or I just never found them!). After this it was alot nicer, some decent ice and neve. Turf frozen solid. Pretty blowy today with snow and spindrift all over the place.
First 10m was balls, ledge shuffling with a rucksack on and poor hooks/gear(or I just never found them!). After this it was alot nicer, some decent ice and neve. Turf frozen solid. Pretty blowy today with snow and spindrift all over the place.
guitarshane 6 Feb, 2016 AltLd O/S
Hidden 4 Feb, 2016 2nd O/S
LucaC 3 Feb, 2016 Lead O/S
Hidden 3 Feb, 2016 2nd O/S
theocelano 3 Feb, 2016 2nd
with LucaC
with LucaC
joe.91 31 Jan, 2016 Lead O/S The only thing in condition the rest of the buttress was black, yet people were still tooling about...
with Rachel Slater
The only thing in condition the rest of the buttress was black, yet people were still tooling about...
with Rachel Slater
Rachel Slater 31 Jan, 2016 2nd O/S Icy ledge-shuffling.
with joe.91
Icy ledge-shuffling.
with joe.91
luckyjim 31 Jan, 2016 AltLd
with D Helm
with D Helm
MC 16 Jan, 2016 - Lots of fresh snow everywhere, Grade IV 5 ? more like the original III.4
with Phil Whitfield
Lots of fresh snow everywhere, Grade IV 5 ? more like the original III.4
with Phil Whitfield
andybroadway 10 Jan, 2016 AltLd O/S Led P1 & P3. Iced up cracks meant very little gear on P1. Loads on fresh snow on P2 and P3 made progress hard going.
with Heike
Led P1 & P3. Iced up cracks meant very little gear on P1. Loads on fresh snow on P2 and P3 made progress hard going.
with Heike
Mine2209 ??, 2016 -
mountain musher ??, 2016 -
tradisrad ??, 2016 2nd O/S
Richard Abel 13 Dec, 2015 AltLd
Hugh Simons 13 Dec, 2015 AltLd O/S In 2 pitches. Led 2nd, which has one short IV section at the top, otherwise a I. First pitch was sketchy to start, then improves.
In 2 pitches. Led 2nd, which has one short IV section at the top, otherwise a I. First pitch was sketchy to start, then improves.
Hidden 13 Dec, 2015 AltLd O/S
calumhicks 13 Dec, 2015 AltLd O/S One of the worst climbs I've ever had the pleasure of climbing.
with Adz
One of the worst climbs I've ever had the pleasure of climbing.
with Adz
BrianShackleton 28 Nov, 2015 AltLd Climbed in 2 pitches plus short easy pitch to top
Climbed in 2 pitches plus short easy pitch to top
Robin Clothier 28 Nov, 2015 AltLd
Steve Perry 21 Nov, 2015 AltLd O/S Led P1 & P3. P1 is quite technical for the grade but good and I managed to find some good gear a bomber hex for the lower thin section. The P2 corner is fun and the steep start to P3 on bomber hooks was too. Enjoyable even though it was verglassed.
Led P1 & P3. P1 is quite technical for the grade but good and I managed to find some good gear a bomber hex for the lower thin section. The P2 corner is fun and the steep start to P3 on bomber hooks was too. Enjoyable even though it was verglassed.
Nathan Adam 29 Mar, 2015 AltLd O/S Lead pitch one which is quite balancy and doesn't have a lot of gear until the corner. Second pitch had a difficult finish, we may have gone wrong though!
Lead pitch one which is quite balancy and doesn't have a lot of gear until the corner. Second pitch had a difficult finish, we may have gone wrong though!
JackM92 29 Mar, 2015 AltLd O/S Interesting moves through some steep blobs of frozen turf, but overall not a very good line.
Interesting moves through some steep blobs of frozen turf, but overall not a very good line.
morsy 4 Mar, 2015 AltLd
with peter berwick
with peter berwick
Pete23 4 Mar, 2015 AltLd
with Stephen Mors
with Stephen Mors
Hidden ?Mar, 2015 Lead
1202alarm 25 Feb, 2015 Lead O/S Technical first pitch without much gear after that fairly boring...
with Jamie Evans
Technical first pitch without much gear after that fairly boring...
with Jamie Evans
Pina 24 Jan, 2015 AltLd O/S Led first pitch. Great conditions though slighty banked out in places
with Greg
Led first pitch. Great conditions though slighty banked out in places
with Greg
plain kitten ??, 2015 -
Hidden 13 Dec, 2014 2nd
Adamski1986 13 Dec, 2014 Lead O/S Verry lean on first pitch.
with kerry
Verry lean on first pitch.
with kerry
Debbie Lee 7 Dec, 2014 AltLd
with MrRiley
with MrRiley
MrRiley 7 Dec, 2014 AltLd O/S A good consolation route which although lean was quite icy up the corner. Some tenuous moves on the first section. Steeper routes were black.
A good consolation route which although lean was quite icy up the corner. Some tenuous moves on the first section. Steeper routes were black.
Hidden 5 Dec, 2014 AltLd O/S
jimmatthews 5 Dec, 2014 AltLd O/S
Flett ?Apr, 2014 2nd O/S
jamieevans ?Feb, 2014 AltLd
mzchambers 13 Jan, 2014 AltLd O/S Lots of snow well banked out. Ewan lead first picth
with Ewan
Lots of snow well banked out. Ewan lead first picth
with Ewan
Hidden 13 Jan, 2014 AltLd O/S
Hidden 12 Jan, 2014 AltLd
Alex Thomson 11 Jan, 2014 AltLd rpt
with jenpen
with jenpen
Hidden 11 Jan, 2014 AltLd O/S
Hidden 11 Jan, 2014 AltLd O/S
Hidden 4 Jan, 2014 AltLd O/S
Murilo Lessa 4 Jan, 2014 AltLd O/S Lead first pitch. It had a short step bit with poor ice which was interesting. Second bit is a nice move through the narrow rock gap.
with William Watson
Lead first pitch. It had a short step bit with poor ice which was interesting. Second bit is a nice move through the narrow rock gap.
with William Watson
w-watson 4 Jan, 2014 AltLd
Hidden 4 Jan, 2014 AltLd O/S
olekemi 4 Jan, 2014 Lead O/S
with James C
with James C
saffy ?Jan, 2014 AltLd O/S
Hidden 30 Dec, 2013 AltLd
leo-z-g 22 Dec, 2013 AltLd O/S Lead second pitch taking the left steeper crack at the top as it looked more fun. And was :)
with Webster
Lead second pitch taking the left steeper crack at the top as it looked more fun. And was :)
with Webster
Webster 22 Dec, 2013 AltLd O/S remarkably good conditions today. lead up to the top of the big corner (pitches 1 and 2 as 1 pitch). really delicate and bold 1st pitch which was a surprise given the grade suggests well protected. pitch 2 was banked out with solid neve so really easy. hard to give a grade, maybe V 4 first pitch, II second and III 5 3rd?
remarkably good conditions today. lead up to the top of the big corner (pitches 1 and 2 as 1 pitch). really delicate and bold 1st pitch which was a surprise given the grade suggests well protected. pitch 2 was banked out with solid neve so really easy. hard to give a grade, maybe V 4 first pitch, II second and III 5 3rd?
Hidden 7 Dec, 2013 AltLd
peter.herd 7 Dec, 2013 AltLd one of the better routes in the coire - first pitch is great
with Rory Brown
one of the better routes in the coire - first pitch is great
with Rory Brown
Hidden 23 Nov, 2013 AltLd O/S
michael83 23 Nov, 2013 AltLd O/S 1st pitch. an unexpectedly delicate start!
with Mark020
1st pitch. an unexpectedly delicate start!
with Mark020
abbeywall 10 Nov, 2013 AltLd rpt 4th time. First time leading p1 proper
with K
4th time. First time leading p1 proper
with K
Wojttek 24 Feb, 2013 Lead O/S
with Danii
with Danii
Gibson27 ?Feb, 2013 AltLd O/S Short but fun.
Short but fun.
Hidden 26 Jan, 2013 AltLd O/S
AndyDWilson 13 Jan, 2013 2nd
rufus.duits 18 Dec, 2012 Solo
Badam 8 Dec, 2012 2nd O/S A big thaw was on, the climb was melting around us, had to detour round to the left of P1 and traverse back onto the line at the start of P2, nice move through a corner made harder with no ice , P3 just a walk off
with Paul, Wilf
A big thaw was on, the climb was melting around us, had to detour round to the left of P1 and traverse back onto the line at the start of P2, nice move through a corner made harder with no ice , P3 just a walk off
with Paul, Wilf
ecromwell 2 Dec, 2012 2nd
with Caspar
with Caspar
Hidden 2 Dec, 2012 Lead O/S
murray ?Dec, 2012 Lead O/S
joeydurkin 4 Nov, 2012 AltLd
with Jockey
with Jockey
Yourlead 1 Nov, 2012 AltLd O/S Very lean with alot of verglas and "some" ice in the corner of the 1st pitch. Where there was turf it was solid.
with Graham Penny
Very lean with alot of verglas and "some" ice in the corner of the 1st pitch. Where there was turf it was solid.
with Graham Penny
Jamie B 27 Oct, 2012 AltLd
with Andy Nisbet
with Andy Nisbet
Peter Holder 5 Feb, 2012 Lead
Hidden ??, 2012 -
Pat-H 20 Dec, 2011 AltLd
with don
with don
Hidden 20 Dec, 2011 AltLd
abbeywall 17 Dec, 2011 AltLd led 1 and 3 after backing off the IV start which had a lot of unconsolidated powder
with K
led 1 and 3 after backing off the IV start which had a lot of unconsolidated powder
with K
Hidden ?Dec, 2011 2nd β
PAJames ??, 2011 -
Hidden ??, 2011 -
Hidden ??, 2011 -
Hidden ??, 2011 -
abbeywall 20 Nov, 2010 AltLd lots of soft unconsolidated snow so time consuming. Led 3rd pitch
with borderline, FM
lots of soft unconsolidated snow so time consuming. Led 3rd pitch
with borderline, FM
Hidden 20 Nov, 2010 AltLd
graeme gatherer ?Nov, 2010 -
pmurdy 7 Mar, 2010 AltLd
whispering nic 15 Feb, 2010 AltLd O/S
with Ali Cashman
with Ali Cashman
Alpandy 14 Feb, 2010 2nd
with Chris
with Chris
Colin Mcgregor 6 Feb, 2010 AltLd First pitch well banked out. Probably grade III on the day. Horrible cornice though!
First pitch well banked out. Probably grade III on the day. Horrible cornice though!
Hidden 6 Feb, 2010 AltLd O/S
MouseHunter ??, 2010 -
Hidden ??, 2010 Solo
Greg Boswell 7 Dec, 2009 AltLd O/S
Hidden 30 Nov, 2009 AltLd O/S
Alco-nomic ?Nov, 2009 AltLd hard start in lean conditions
with Andy Wardle
hard start in lean conditions
with Andy Wardle
Hidden 24 Jan, 2009 Lead O/S
Dougie Harvey 24 Jan, 2009 2nd O/S Finished up the top pitch of Honey Pot
Finished up the top pitch of Honey Pot
BallsOfSteel 14 Jan, 2009 AltLd O/S
with plummet
with plummet
Hidden 23 Nov, 2008 AltLd
Peter Rhodes 1 Nov, 2008 2nd β Lots of soft snow!
with Justin Nixon
Lots of soft snow!
with Justin Nixon
Alco-nomic ??, 2008 AltLd
Smelly Fox 9 Dec, 2007 AltLd O/S
with Kev Neal
with Kev Neal
Captain Solo 8 Mar, 2007 Solo Late season so banked out, grade III
Late season so banked out, grade III
Hidden ??, 2007 -
Hidden ?Feb, 2006 AltLd O/S
John Pickles ?Dec, 2005 AltLd O/S
with 8848
with 8848
Hidden ?Dec, 2005 AltLd O/S
Hidden ?Dec, 2005 AltLd
Jim Haydock 11 Mar, 2005 2nd
with Graeme Ettle & John Bracey
with Graeme Ettle & John Bracey
francois ??, 2005 AltLd
with Philip
with Philip
Hidden 18 Feb, 2003 AltLd
Hidden ?Feb, 2002 2nd O/S
DerwentDiluted ?Jan, 2002 AltLd
Ally Smith ??, 2002 AltLd Date a guess; sometime between 2002 & 2006
with Piers
Date a guess; sometime between 2002 & 2006
with Piers
abbeywall ?Jan, 2001 AltLd
with K
with K
Rich Cross - Alpine Guides ?Feb, 2000 AltLd
with Graeme Ettle, Tim Niell
with Graeme Ettle, Tim Niell
smithaldo ?Feb, 1998 AltLd O/S Also a III that felt hard when we did it.
with tom matthew
Also a III that felt hard when we did it.
with tom matthew
Hidden ?Dec, 1996 AltLd
Neil McA 18 Feb, 1996 AltLd O/S Full blizzard conditions.
with Andy Perkins
Full blizzard conditions.
with Andy Perkins
Hidden 2 Feb, 1996 Lead
Hidden 9 Feb, 1995 AltLd O/S
rockaddiction ?Feb, 1994 AltLd O/S
mark-abz 12 Dec, 1993 AltLd
with Gordon S
with Gordon S
Hidden 9 Dec, 1993 AltLd
Hidden 27 Feb, 1993 AltLd O/S
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