Tom Seccombe 29/Aug Lead O/S

Did top two in one.

with Jess, Kev Smith
Chelsey Robinson 17/Aug AltLd O/S
with Ben Hester
James Worthington 13/Aug Lead

Led last two pitches in one. Step across was tricky and the groove afterwards felt sustained, not sure if I traversed to the rib in the right place because that felt hard! Couldn't hear Lee from the top and he got stuck at the crux so had to ab to the first belay to retrieve gear, traverse off the crag and run up to the top to retrieve the ab kit as the light was fading fast.

with Lee
Little B 25/Jul AltLd rpt

The traverse pitch (either 3 or start of 2) is straightforward when you get the move across the slab correct. Felt like an MVS today. Nice.

judith neaves 23/Jul AltLd
Samantha Dickson 20/Jul AltLd O/S
with Ali Baxter
Hidden 20/Jul AltLd O/S
Norman_P_W 16/Jul AltLd
with Bruce Woodley
ChrisH89 07/Jul AltLd O/S

Led crux. Fun and surprisingly delicate, as the guidebook says!

CHarrison 07/Jul AltLd O/S

Lead 1 & 3. Crux move on P2 was delicate as described

David Staples 05/Jul AltLd O/S
Hidden 05/Jul AltLd O/S
MFB 05/Jul 2nd
with David
felixwilkins 03/Jul AltLd O/S
Adam Jackson lakes 02/Jul 2nd

Pretty shit climbing, green and chossy

ninastirrup 02/Jul Lead O/S
jhobbs 01/Jul 2nd O/S
with Charlie chambers, Pete Belfield
joe.91 09/Jun AltLd O/S

Tried to do the direct on pitch 3, apparently it's E2 5b in the definitive, traverse much lower down!

Fragmod 09/Jun -

e2 5b alternative

John Nuttall 03/Jun Lead
with Sharon
Hidden 21/May 2nd
Chris Oldfield 14/May 2nd O/S

Led by James and Dave

with James Buckley
southern_smit 14/May AltLd
Ben1983 14/May AltLd O/S
robgixer 01/May Lead O/S
NeilGriffiths 01/May AltLd
with Adrian Pedley
JenShelley 27/Apr Solo O/S
Hidden 23/Apr 2nd
SandyB 23/Apr 2nd
with Tomhull
tomhull 23/Apr Lead rpt
with Ben Watson, sandyb, tarawatson
davemccrave666 23/Apr AltLd O/S

Best climb of the weekend. Great variation of climbing styles on the one route.

sheelba 09/Apr AltLd
with Naomi
Sally Hudson 05/Apr AltLd
Hidden 05/Apr AltLd
daveclarke5 02/Apr Lead O/S

Far from over once you've crossed the slab. Combined with Pitch 1 of Pluto.

with jlury
Mark Eddy 02/Apr AltLd
nickcj 02/Apr AltLd
jlury 02/Apr 2nd

1st pitch of pluto. the main pitch of HTD seemed sustained and desperate to me - yikes.

WillDoyle 25/Mar Lead O/S
Alex moore 10/Dec/16 Solo O/S
with Will Birkett
wi11 04/Dec/16 AltLd O/S
with Tom
Tom Livingstone 04/Dec/16 AltLd O/S


Rob Rocket 01/Nov/16 AltLd rpt
Scooter Young 01/Nov/16 AltLd

Pitches 2&3 together. Left before the oak

TimCul 30/Oct/16 AltLd O/S
Matt Amos 30/Oct/16 Lead rpt
onlyfoddington 30/Oct/16 AltLd O/S

All three pitches were enjoyable, lots of delicate climbing. I lead pitch 3.

with Tim, Steve R
K Mckay 24/Oct/16 AltLd O/S

Stepped right too high which felt like 5a not 4C. I don't think it is worth *** as there is only 5m of continuous/quality HVS climbing. Otherwise it is quite soft for the grade. I do not think P1 is 4C. Led P2.

with Paul Gibbison
hlegge 23/Oct/16 Lead O/S

Sandbag at HVS 4C. Maybe i didnt down climb far enough for the traverse on the second pitch, but the moves were more like E1 5C.

with Sandra Linner
Sani 23/Oct/16 -
with hlegge
smithjmw46 13/Oct/16 Lead O/S
markalmack 02/Oct/16 Solo O/S
Hidden 02/Oct/16 AltLd
topsyturvy 02/Oct/16 AltLd O/S

ran p2 and p3 together

with John Wilson
WB 02/Oct/16 Solo O/S
Martin Bennett 20/Sep/16 -
with SF
Hidden 16/Sep/16 AltLd
SteveM 11/Sep/16 AltLd O/S

Gardening needed on a three star HVS? Mark led crux pitch

with Marq
Marq 11/Sep/16 AltLd rpt
Guy Harris 06/Sep/16 Lead
Danny Crump 17/Aug/16 Lead
with Anita
Bristoldave 18/Jul/16 Lead O/S
with Caroline
c jepps 14/Jun/16 AltLd O/S

lead first and second pitch

with Cerith
Hidden 14/Jun/16 AltLd O/S
Hidden 14/Jun/16 2nd O/S
Theo Moore - UKC and UKH 30/May/16 AltLd O/S
with Roisin
Hidden 28/May/16 Lead O/S
gav 27/May/16 AltLd O/S

P2. Despite the book and Neil telling me, it took some convincing to step right low down.

with Neil Harvey
Mike-W-99 14/May/16 AltLd O/S

Did 2 & 3 A fantastic route full of interest.

with Fiona
Fiona Reid 14/May/16 AltLd O/S

Great route. Led pitch 1. Mike combined 2 & 3 together. Crux takes a bit of working out. Quite interesting to second!

with Mike
Hidden 14/May/16 2nd
joermann 10/May/16 AltLd
Martin Klusák 08/May/16 AltLd
with Joel
Joel Miller 08/May/16 AltLd
with Martin
Hidden 08/May/16 AltLd
Freshprintce 08/May/16 Lead
nathanhesslewood 08/May/16 2nd
Hidden 06/May/16 AltLd
Simon Rackley ?/May/16 AltLd O/S
with al cam
Hidden ?/May/16 AltLd
Hidden 22/Apr/16 -
tomowen13 22/Apr/16 AltLd
with Matt Morris
Hidden 19/Apr/16 2nd
MFB 15/Mar/16 Lead
with MB
Andrew Duncan 25/Feb/16 2nd
with andrew Senior, joe hallam
Ric2ragas ??/2016 -
adie84 ??/2016 -
jack morris 94 ??/2016 -
Hidden ??/2016 -
Hidden ??/2016 Lead
GrahamPlant 17/Oct/15 Lead O/S
Luke Jones 17/Oct/15 AltLd O/S

Led p1.

MTL 10/Oct/15 AltLd O/S

Led pitch 2 (Crux). Pitch 1 very scrappy but the rest was worthwhile. Step across fine once I went for it.

Hidden 08/Oct/15 AltLd
lanky and weak 28/Sep/15 AltLd rpt
with Lyndon Chatting-Walters
John Brayshaw 27/Sep/15 Lead O/S
with Erica
erica 27/Sep/15 2nd
with John
Mackinclimb 14/Sep/15 AltLd

If you go too high on the traverse of p2 it's probably 5a. A bit polished.

thomaspomfrett 05/Sep/15 AltLd dog

Fell off seconding p2, went too high on slab - definitely not 4c!

Peter Metcalfe 01/Sep/15 AltLd
with George King
gingerking ?/Sep/15 AltLd O/S
with Peter
Hidden 30/Aug/15 AltLd
kelliroberts3 25/Aug/15 AltLd

Led first pitch (did it in 2 pitches only)

Pete Rigby 25/Aug/15 AltLd O/S
with Kelli Roberts
Pero 17/Aug/15 Lead
Hidden 16/Aug/15 Lead
Nick Clement 15/Aug/15 2nd
with Rachel Antill, Paul Figg
Paul Figg 15/Aug/15 AltLd
with Rachel Antill, Nick Clement
Lee Sheard 13/Aug/15 AltLd rpt
with John Hubbard
Neil Pacey 08/Aug/15 Lead rpt
Tanya Savage 08/Aug/15 2nd

First pitch went up Original Route. Slab actually fine, but chimney above a bit in your face. Neil belayed just above steep bit.

Hidden ?/Aug/15 Lead O/S
Col Kingshott 24/Jul/15 AltLd O/S
MFB 22/Jul/15 AltLd rpt

Jim p1 pluto

with james perkins
James_Kendal 22/Jul/15 AltLd O/S

In two pitches. Led P2 (crux). First HVS lead.

with Tony, Conan
Conan 22/Jul/15 AltLd
jordana86 14/Jul/15 2nd
Stickle Tarn 14/Jul/15 Lead O/S

Could do with more traffic.

bobpilgrem 09/Jul/15 AltLd rpt
with Tom
tompilgrem 09/Jul/15 AltLd O/S
with Dad
Bloke on a Rope 08/Jul/15 AltLd O/S

Lead pitch 2.

with Matt
Climbster 08/Jul/15 AltLd O/S

P 1

BIgYeti86 06/Jul/15 AltLd O/S
J_Spooner ?/Jul/15 Lead
mzchambers 29/Jun/15 AltLd O/S
with George Porter
Hidden 28/Jun/15 AltLd
Hidden 20/Jun/15 2nd O/S
Hidden 20/Jun/15 Lead O/S
barn owl 18/Jun/15 AltLd O/S
with Pete Brindle
Hidden 11/Jun/15 2nd dog
Pohil 03/Jun/15 AltLd O/S
with George Humphrey
georgehumphery 02/Jun/15 AltLd

climbed with Alex after work i lead p2 went to high on the slab but made it to the belay lots of fun had

youwillfindjimbo 30/May/15 AltLd O/S
Hidden 30/May/15 AltLd O/S
Henry Brett 26/May/15 2nd

Good fun! the first pitch was from Pluto (HVS)

with Tom McAbe
Tom McCabe 26/May/15 Lead O/S

P1 of Pluto, possibly P3 of holly tree traverse

greenclimb 25/May/15 Lead O/S
with Sarah
Hidden 25/May/15 AltLd O/S
mishabruml 20/May/15 AltLd O/S

Tom led 1+2 together and 4, I led the p3 money pitch. Amazing committing move getting round the corner. Lovely day and down in time for a pint at the pub. Top draw :)

tomwhitchurch 20/May/15 AltLd O/S

Lead P1 & P2 together, then P4. Misha lead P3.

garyb1442 16/May/15 2nd O/S

First multi pitch with Adam

Adamski1986 16/May/15 Lead O/S
Matt Amos 04/May/15 Lead O/S
Tim Rodgers 19/Apr/15 2nd
a_hein 19/Apr/15 AltLd O/S
robertmichaellovell 19/Apr/15 AltLd
with Tim, Andy H
malteserEd 19/Apr/15 Lead
martintom 18/Apr/15 AltLd O/S

Lead the first easier pitch

Molly Corkery 04/Apr/15 2nd O/S
JackM92 04/Apr/15 AltLd dog

Fell off on P2, possibly too high up on the slab traverse...

Paul Johnson ?/Apr/15 Lead
Foghbags 27/Mar/15 2nd
Blue68 21/Mar/15 Lead O/S

Think this was the best climb of the trip!

with Alex Pond
Dervey 21/Mar/15 Lead O/S
with Rich
chancer 21/Mar/15 AltLd O/S
with Mark McDonald
Richard Alderton 21/Mar/15 2nd
with Liam
Peter Metcalfe 21/Mar/15 Lead
David Cowley 21/Feb/15 2nd dog

found the move up the groove after the slab traverse pretty tough

chris smith 21/Feb/15 Lead O/S

This will get a lot harder when then the very small flake on the slab breaks off (it's very loose at the minute).

Andyjharper ??/2015 AltLd O/S
bobpilgrem 02/Oct/14 AltLd rpt
with Pete
Peter Metcalfe 02/Oct/14 Lead

As two pitches via original start. Crag busy with the lovely sunshine today

with Liz Lawton
lost.arrow 21/Sep/14 -
with Stu Sherwood
planetmarshall 20/Sep/14 Lead O/S
cpoad 12/Sep/14 Lead O/S
with Clare F
Hunter72 09/Sep/14 AltLd O/S
with Peter Ibberson
MFB 08/Sep/14 Lead rpt
with MB
Lee Sheard 04/Sep/14 AltLd rpt
with judy
preet s 26/Aug/14 AltLd

led p2 and 4

with stu paton
foostu4 26/Aug/14 AltLd O/S
Hidden 24/Aug/14 AltLd dnf
Justin Shiels 13/Aug/14 Lead
with Chris
quickdrawmcraw ?/Aug/14 Lead
Hidden ?/Aug/14 2nd
Ken Taylor 22/Jul/14 AltLd O/S
with Steve Livingston
noemie5438 20/Jul/14 AltLd O/S
AmyG 20/Jul/14 AltLd

Route seemed pretty dirty and unclimbed. Couldn't figure out the step across, eventually swung across on gear. Rest of the route was fine.

Rob Rocket 12/Jul/14 AltLd rpt
with Neil Porter
Em66 ?/Jul/14 -
with Mat
bobpilgrem 30/Jun/14 AltLd O/S

P1- Matthew ran 2&3 togethor. Line a bit contrived.

with Matthew
1poundSOCKS 30/Jun/14 AltLd O/S

I led P2, straight through to top, skipped the tree belay. Enjoyable, but felt contrived. Took a while working out where to traverse at the start.

Bryan M 27/Jun/14 AltLd
mikeyjbs 27/Jun/14 AltLd O/S

Not a good choice of route if you are climbing as a three.

with Bryan Malone, Patrick Radford
barni 16/Jun/14 AltLd rpt
with Bob
Scott Quinn 12/Jun/14 AltLd O/S

pretty crap climbing 3 stars in the new guide...

alice_loudon 26/May/14 Lead O/S
Hidden 25/May/14 AltLd
wrapped in bacon 25/May/14 AltLd O/S
with john (Leeds), Daryl
Trobbo 17/May/14 AltLd
with simon fenna
Al Aston 17/May/14 2nd O/S
Tim Rodgers 16/May/14 AltLd
Pete Wimbush 05/May/14 AltLd
with Richard Williams
blue-icefox 05/May/14 AltLd dnf

lead the first 2 pitches, but bailed out at the crux. Graham lead pitch 3&4 in 1 go and David seconded it. I have to go back some time and finish it.

rich_hw 05/May/14 AltLd O/S
with Pete_PCC
2010_graham 04/May/14 AltLd O/S
redshapedfriday 12/Mar/14 AltLd O/S
with Mike Watling
mwat ??/2014 AltLd
origamib ?/Nov/13 2nd O/S
Peter Metcalfe 29/Sep/13 AltLd

Jolly good fun, just about merits HVS. As two pitches.

joe_lancs 29/Sep/13 AltLd
Stuart Macfarlane 28/Sep/13 AltLd O/S

Jeanie ran the first two guidebook pitches together, I led the next and Jeanie led the final pitch. Found the traverse to the groove hard, took several attempts.

with Jeanie
foostu4 22/Sep/13 AltLd O/S
Hidden 22/Sep/13 2nd
Steve Lenartowicz 26/Aug/13 Lead
with Clare
Anthony Dixon 23/Aug/13 Lead O/S
with Alan
samuel.stevens 23/Aug/13 AltLd O/S

p2 + p4

joeflan 22/Aug/13 AltLd O/S
Hidden 19/Aug/13 Lead
net 06/Aug/13 2nd

With p1 of Pluto (very good)

with George
Peter Metcalfe 06/Aug/13 Lead

First pitch of Pluto, other pitches as one.

GPN 06/Aug/13 Lead rpt

Started up Pluto, lead pitch 2 of Pluto and the reversed it. Finished up this! First pitch of Pluto and then finishing up HTD is a good combo.

with Annette
Shaw Brown 06/Aug/13 2nd
MFB 25/Jul/13 Lead rpt
with MB
jules1990 22/Jul/13 AltLd O/S

I did P1,2 and 4 Nicho did 3

middlevern 22/Jul/13 AltLd
Hidden 21/Jul/13 AltLd O/S
sparkass 07/Jul/13 Lead O/S
dtalbot 07/Jul/13 AltLd
with Charles S
Steve Woollard 03/Jul/13 AltLd
lanky 03/Jul/13 AltLd
tmather ?/Jul/13 AltLd dnf

Lead P1+2, slipped on traverse and had to ab off after hitting ledge

Little B 26/Jun/13 AltLd rpt
with Simon
Simonfarfaraway 26/Jun/13 AltLd
BTphonehome 09/Jun/13 AltLd O/S

Nice move to unlock the lower traverse that took a bit of working out, followed by a short, steep section of climbing. We were sandbagged by the 'VS 4c' in the '89 Langdale guide!

with Pat
Padraig-US 09/Jun/13 AltLd dog

Tried to link P1,2,and 3, but boinked at P3 crux onto in-situ nut; lowered to ledge and let Bram finish the day in two pitches; I got suckered into traversing high, but still had a tough go when on TR

with Bram
carl_123 08/Jun/13 AltLd O/S
rob.grafton 01/Jun/13 Lead
with Jim
alaster tonge 31/May/13 Lead β
with Assad Lahlou
duzinga 26/May/13 Lead O/S

only climbed p3&4 as a single pitch.

with Jie
matus 25/May/13 Lead
Hidden 25/May/13 2nd O/S
Adi Hooper 24/May/13 Lead

In the sun :-)

with Duncan Ward
Footy564 08/May/13 AltLd O/S
with Dan Kelly
Frank Blakeley 06/May/13 2nd O/S

have definitely got to come back and lead this route..

with Mark
Julian Cooper 06/May/13 2nd O/S
with Stuart Knott
Rog Wilko 30/Apr/13 AltLd
with Rob Rocket
Rob Rocket 30/Apr/13 AltLd β
alexmcmillan 27/Apr/13 2nd O/S

Very nice

Hidden 27/Apr/13 2nd O/S
Hidden 27/Apr/13 Lead O/S
Hidden 20/Apr/13 AltLd O/S
Hidden 04/Apr/13 -
Trevera 01/Apr/13 AltLd
flying_red_squirrel 03/Mar/13 Lead
Hidden ?/Feb/13 Lead
Hidden ??/2013 2nd
bclifton ??/2013 Lead
Mark Eddy ??/2013 Lead

Convinced myself i'd fall off this, but didn't. Middle pitch felt very hard

with Frank, Kate
Mark Eddy ??/2013 Lead

Really good fun middle pitch, found the step across pretty hard and almost fell off

with Frank
Luke W Edwards 10/Oct/12 AltLd
MarkRoe 10/Oct/12 AltLd O/S

Lead pitches 1 and 3.

Hidden 10/Oct/12 AltLd
petekeron 08/Oct/12 AltLd O/S


David_Gledson 07/Oct/12 AltLd O/S

Nice route, first two pitches are not that much, but the top two are pretty great. I traversed too high on the crux traverse into the groove, which left hard 5b ish moves, a good bit away from gear, felt e1 for sure, but really satisfying. Next time go lower. Lovely sunny day, t shirt all day in october! Must go back for Pluto amungst others.

with Lukas
Hidden 06/Oct/12 AltLd O/S
Hidden 06/Oct/12 AltLd
Marq 23/Sep/12 AltLd O/S
with Helen C (LMC)
Stone Muppet 04/Sep/12 2nd O/S
paul horabin 04/Sep/12 AltLd
tsjx 02/Sep/12 AltLd

Led P1 & P3. Took a couple of goes (separated by some air time) to do crux move on P3. Not 4c. Probably not even 5a.

with John Mc
kato'sdad 28/Aug/12 AltLd
with paul horabin, conan harrod
Woodiee ?/Aug/12 AltLd O/S

lead P2 hanging out of my ass / dry wretching all the way up - powerful stuff in excess at the old dungeon ghyll last night - felt a bit grovelly in the groove, but then found out there were delightful good holds on the LH arete.

with josh wyatt, sam webb
Hidden 15/Jul/12 AltLd O/S
AndyT1151 13/Jul/12 AltLd
Hidden 12/Jul/12 AltLd
Adi Hooper 12/Jul/12 Lead
with Alex Stothert
stephen.W-S ?/Jul/12 Lead
hamishjoe 19/Jun/12 AltLd O/S
Hidden 03/Jun/12 2nd
andrewcoultherd 03/Jun/12 2nd
Hidden 03/Jun/12 Lead O/S
Hidden 31/May/12 Lead
ST3V10 26/May/12 Lead
mcglenr25 12/May/12 AltLd O/S
Goose4 12/May/12 AltLd O/S
r_o_b_h2 12/May/12 AltLd O/S

crux move felt a bit too cheeky to be 4c, well protected though. Cold route in the wind!

with Tom Woodstone
dannyboy83 05/May/12 AltLd O/S
with Nils
Hidden ?/May/12 AltLd rpt
Martin Davies 15/Apr/12 Lead rpt
Tony Holdsworth 15/Apr/12 Lead O/S
with Rupert Creed
Hidden 15/Apr/12 2nd O/S
martrin 05/Apr/12 AltLd
with Colin Smith
colin smith 05/Apr/12 AltLd

Nice VS - apart from one move which is about 5b.

Hidden 31/Mar/12 AltLd O/S
Lee Sheard 30/Mar/12 AltLd O/S

Lead pitch 1 and 3. Good gear high up on the left for pitch 3. Then down climb 2 meters and cross the slab.. Long legs help!! But its not hard. I felt the moves up the groove after harder, or more in keeping withe grade.. HVS.

with elsier
Elsier 30/Mar/12 AltLd O/S

Lead pitch 2 and 4. Pitch 3 quite tricky climbing up the groove

roberto18 25/Mar/12 AltLd O/S
with Dad (Mike Bridges)
Hidden 21/Mar/12 AltLd rpt
Harry Ellis 21/Mar/12 AltLd

fell off econding pitch 3!

with Adrian Nicholas
Tightsgirl 18/Mar/12 Lead
with DAJ, Clare Francis
Peter Holder 05/Mar/12 Lead O/S
with Nick Michel
Hidden ?/Mar/12 AltLd
Callum Anderson ??/2012 -
Rich Thornton 28/Oct/11 2nd
with James Harland
Hidden 18/Sep/11 Lead
TimKnight 28/Aug/11 Lead O/S

Err... started up 'Original Route' (S 4a) which shares P1 with Holly Tree Direct; P2 on OR then belayed from the obvious stance which apparently isn't the "pinnacle". Started P3 "right 3m" as per guide but ended up rounding an arete from a roof on poor gear to a slab, stepped right into grove of HTD. Finished up P3 and P4 of HTD

with Owen Daniel, Jen Shutt
Laurence Everitt 21/Aug/11 2nd O/S
with Mark D
chrisallan 21/Aug/11 AltLd O/S
Mark D 21/Aug/11 Lead O/S
markfairbank 21/Aug/11 AltLd O/S
with Paul Sheehan, Sandra Lee
Hidden 14/Aug/11 AltLd
joe_lancs 14/Aug/11 Lead O/S

Started via first pitch of Pluto (the 4c crack)

Hidden 31/Jul/11 2nd dog
Hidden 31/Jul/11 Lead O/S
Mr Fuller 31/Jul/11 2nd dog

Fell on step right, swung, then aided to reach the groove.

Hidden ?/Jul/11 Lead rpt
Matt Schwarz 28/Jun/11 AltLd

Lead fitst pitch.struggled on second pitch step right. Really good route

with Chris walters, Sally lisle
Hidden 22/Jun/11 AltLd
APRS 12/Jun/11 AltLd
Hidden 12/Jun/11 -
Matt_L_Robinson 12/Jun/11 AltLd O/S

1st and 3rd pitch.

Hidden 11/Jun/11 AltLd O/S
will9911 11/Jun/11 Lead O/S
Josh Litten 10/Jun/11 -

Lead/ second 4 pitch After work evening climb Excellent route, top two pitches bold climbing

tim20 02/Jun/11 AltLd
scorky345 02/Jun/11 AltLd
Alexstone ?/Jun/11 Lead O/S
with Seth
Shaw Brown 29/May/11 Lead

First HVS after the plaster came off!

judith neaves 29/May/11 2nd
Hidden 21/May/11 AltLd
Grabtheslab 10/May/11 Lead
with nick
ceaddiso 09/May/11 2nd

A nice route but got very wet! Would like to have another go in the dry.

with Conan
susan mc donald 07/May/11 2nd
Conan 07/May/11 Lead

Just managed to do the step across before the heavens opened. A proper drenching.

with Clare A
steveleahy 04/May/11 Lead O/S

lead pitch 1,2 & 3. Crux to pitch 3 was tricky finding the right way across the slab. Good fun though

with Josh Litten
Hidden 04/May/11 AltLd
tjmillen ?/May/11 Lead
with vicky
matus 09/Apr/11 Lead
with sasha
esther ?/Apr/11 AltLd
greenroom 03/Mar/11 Solo β


Steve Lenartowicz ?/Mar/11 -
Andrew_ing 28/Jan/11 AltLd

pitch 1 deviation from original route

Hidden ??/2011 -
uphillnow ??/2011 -
Hidden ??/2011 AltLd
Hidden 20/Nov/10 AltLd O/S
Hidden 16/Oct/10 AltLd O/S
HansUDes 16/Oct/10 AltLd O/S
ukb & bmc shark 16/Oct/10 Solo dnf

Decided against step right. Reversed down and finished up Original Route.

Hidden 12/Oct/10 AltLd O/S
allyrocke 09/Oct/10 Lead dog

Went direct on the 2nd pitch and ended up pulling on nuts! I'd say about 5b.

with Katie Main
Hidden 09/Oct/10 AltLd dog
Hidden 11/Sep/10 AltLd O/S
Hidden 04/Sep/10 AltLd O/S
nia ?/Sep/10 AltLd O/S
with Richard
alaster tonge 30/Aug/10 2nd
schof 22/Aug/10 AltLd O/S
eldre070 19/Aug/10 AltLd O/S

P1 me, P2 Bob and P3 Me. The move at the start of P2 is interesting and can be done going high or staying low. Grrove is good and steep. P3 a bit soft for 4c.

with Bob Henson
matus 15/Aug/10 Lead O/S
with sasha
KevB 14/Aug/10 AltLd O/S

Led P1+3

with Chris W
Adam1973 08/Aug/10 AltLd rpt
with Ann S
Ann S 08/Aug/10 AltLd

Led 4b pitch and easy top of final pitch

with Adam
The Wild Scallion 08/Aug/10 AltLd O/S
with Jack
jwpil 08/Aug/10 AltLd O/S

Lead pitches 3 and 4 together.

with Mat
Dunx 04/Aug/10 AltLd O/S
with Joe M
Hidden 04/Aug/10 Lead O/S
Alaric 03/Aug/10 Lead O/S

Led p1 and p3. Nervy 3rd pitch. Remainder of the climb is straight forward. Went past the original belay on pitch 3 and belayed at the oak tree. Had a good chat whilst belaying with two ladies from the Kendal Mountaineering Club who were doing Holly Tree Traverse.

with Neil
victim of mathematics 01/Aug/10 AltLd O/S

Led P2 & 4.

with Dan
dpmUK 01/Aug/10 AltLd dog

Led P1 and P3. Took a fall on P3 trying the traverse too high. Was fine once I tried at the correct level.

kylebradshaw ?/Aug/10 AltLd O/S
with Joe Kenny
theotherpetehill 02/Jul/10 Lead O/S

That slab is actually quite hard...or maybe it's just difficult to read and I climbed it completely wrong.

Hidden ?/Jul/10 2nd O/S
tomhull 30/Jun/10 AltLd rpt

in 2 pitchs

Hidden 27/Jun/10 AltLd O/S
TerryB 27/Jun/10 2nd O/S
Rachel S 19/Jun/10 2nd O/S
with Trish, Al Metelko
Little B 16/Jun/10 AltLd O/S

after both of us finding different ways across slab of p3 and both thinking it was easier than first impression, then Simon belayed too early, and consequently I went onto rib too early - made it a bit harder.

with Simon
Simonfarfaraway 16/Jun/10 AltLd
Chriswallis2 14/Jun/10 Lead O/S
with Joycey
jkarran 22/May/10 AltLd

Tricky crux. Bit of a sandbag at 4c unless there's a trick to it that's not at all obvious, felt more like 5b the way I eventually went. Safe at least.

with Pete
petellis 22/May/10 AltLd O/S

P1&2 as one and P4

Hidden 18/May/10 AltLd
Hidden 02/May/10 AltLd
DavidR 02/May/10 AltLd O/S

1st and 2nd pitch - Hol; 3rd pitch - me; 4th pitch - Hol. Finished 3rd pitch at the tree, above where guidebook suggests. Disappointing route - overrated. 3rd pitch was harder than 4c too!

John Tanner 01/May/10 AltLd O/S
mrstarwarsman 01/May/10 AltLd O/S

first HVS woop woop! one nice bold move around arete

JGW ?/May/10 Lead O/S

JW p1 & p2 (run together), AG p3, MT p4

with Matt Tilley, Ali Gurney
Hidden ?/May/10 AltLd
twoplates 26/Apr/10 AltLd O/S
with Andy S
Andy S 26/Apr/10 AltLd O/S

Tom belayed at the Oak Tree (not much of a belay further down), so I tried to follow the route by downclimbing from the belay and then stepping out left where you're meant to. However, this meant I couldn't put any gear in and it got quite tricky futher up and a fall would have been severe, so I bailed and downclimbed again and pendulumed back into the chimney, climbed back up to the oak and then stepped out left back onto the route.

with Tom S
darlolad 24/Apr/10 AltLd O/S
tim newton 24/Apr/10 AltLd O/S
Adi Hooper 20/Apr/10 AltLd
with Roger Ward
khawk 18/Apr/10 AltLd O/S
with DT
James Moyle 14/Apr/10 AltLd O/S
with T.Moores
marcushorgan 12/Apr/10 Lead O/S
with Clare Muir
Chi Cheng 11/Apr/10 AltLd β

Lead the first 2 pitches as 1 (OS). 3rd pitch Step across gave me disco leg and my gear was shocking (All most backed off). Got it done clean (Beta). 4th pitch I second to top. (OS)

with Dan Jackson
j_turner023 ?/Apr/10 2nd
with Ed Luke
Hidden 08/Mar/10 Lead O/S
rhyspitze 07/Mar/10 -
Hidden 06/Mar/10 Lead O/S
Andrew1 13/Feb/10 Lead
with Hulda
Hulda 13/Feb/10 2nd
with Andi
McDan ??/2010 2nd
with Nick Michel
flatnose ??/2010 AltLd O/S
with Charlie
drysori ??/2010 -
Hidden ??/2010 -
zach.stone ??/2010 2nd β
RM199 ??/2010 AltLd O/S
Shaw Brown 08/Nov/09 AltLd
with Loz
Hidden 10/Oct/09 2nd
gethin_allen 27/Sep/09 2nd
with neil
Allan Watson 23/Sep/09 AltLd
with Simon Whitehead
simonw1 ?/Sep/09 AltLd O/S
with Allan Watson
Hidden ?/Sep/09 AltLd O/S
Rog Wilko 05/Aug/09 AltLd

Pitch 3 must be the most frequent spot for going seriously off-route in Langdale! You have been warned! By the way, there is now no holly, only a nice oak at end of pitch 3.

with Pete Nugent
fallingrocks ?/Aug/09 AltLd

Led the final 4c pitch

with Mike "Oz" Osmund
Hidden 24/Jul/09 Lead O/S
ianburton 18/Jul/09 Lead O/S
alisonk 18/Jul/09 AltLd O/S

Led P2

with Ian B
Timo Austino 10/Jul/09 Lead O/S

All in all ok - not quite the knock out route we'd thought.... 1st 2 pitches 2gether pretty easy, 3rd hard move right, 4th easy going once you've moved left to the rib. Just great 2 be back on rockin!?

with Nats
nakedave 10/Jul/09 Lead
with liamL
liamlonsdale 10/Jul/09 Lead O/S

Great route, climbed the 5b variation on the third pitch which goes right up into the overhanging groove above just before the step out right, then on the step out onto a tiny shit sloping edge with your right foot, match hands on alright hold and then move again right into gulley for good footholds. Gets the heart rate going for sure.

with Dave Thornley
Nigel Coe 08/Jul/09 AltLd
with Alan Walmsley
Hidden 27/Jun/09 AltLd
robin heath 27/Jun/09 AltLd O/S
with neil pope, tom wild
Hidden 08/Jun/09 AltLd O/S
Hidden 08/Jun/09 Lead O/S
Hidden ?/Jun/09 AltLd
jonny taylor 31/May/09 AltLd O/S

Eventually got the traverse, after refusing to believe that was where it went and trying a number of massively difficult variations. Once you get it right, I think 4c is fair. Recommend continuing P3 to the oak tree where there is a decent ledge for a belay. Had the bonus of seeing a peregrine tearing past in very close pursuit of a pigeon (which made it into the woods)

with Andy B
Roger Cruse 30/May/09 AltLd O/S
with Kris
John Roe 24/May/09 AltLd

Also with Chris Morris. I led the first two pitches as one, easy for the grade. Rob led the crux, felt much harder than the grade.

with Rob Patchett
CMorris 24/May/09 2nd dog

Lead first 2 pitches and retreated from hard step across on 3rd. Seconded up straight after.

with John Roe & Rob Patchett
Hidden 24/May/09 AltLd
Hidden ?/May/09 -
MDowson 26/Apr/09 AltLd O/S

Led first 2 pitches as one. Polly led 2nd two pitches as one also.

with polly
dowy 17/Apr/09 AltLd O/S

Tricky traverse second pitch

with wilky
tebs 06/Apr/09 AltLd O/S
with Tim, Dunc
decs 06/Apr/09 AltLd
with Bart and Tim
HimTiggins 06/Apr/09 AltLd O/S

Led last pitch.

with Bart & Duncan
Scraggadoo 03/Apr/09 AltLd O/S

Led 1st, 2nd, 4th pitches... 3rd pitch was hardest though.

with ERB
dowy ?/Apr/09 AltLd O/S

tricky traverse.

barni 30/Mar/09 Lead O/S

First and 2hd pitch

with Ewan
Renegade_Pony 30/Mar/09 -

Only to Ledge

with Owen Barnicott, Ewan Brown
benchwarmer 30/Mar/09 2nd
with Owen Barnicott, Justin Hughes
Tanya Savage 29/Mar/09 2nd

step across slab on 3rd pitch better than expected, but groove on other side steep and awkward

Neil Pacey 29/Mar/09 Lead rpt

Fantasic route, the chimney/groove on the 3rd pitch felt awkward and steep, I think overall it deservers HVS 5a.

Hidden ?/Mar/09 -
Hidden 21/Feb/09 2nd
Hidden ?/Feb/09 AltLd
Hidden ??/2009 AltLd
greenroom ??/2009 -
Seymore Butt ??/2009 -
Hidden ??/2009 -
Matt crawford 30/Dec/08 AltLd O/S

Lead crux pitch, stepped across too high as many do so felt hard. Cracking route!

with Taba
Hidden 30/Dec/08 2nd O/S
design crisis 30/Nov/08 Lead
with Shaun
oliverthomp 22/Oct/08 AltLd
with Richard Atkinson
cherad 22/Oct/08 AltLd O/S
with oliver thompson
chris.mac 28/Sep/08 AltLd O/S

ran 1 & 2 together Eric did high traverse !!! 5b not easy :o(

with eric & terry
chris.mac 28/Sep/08 AltLd
with eric & terry
Hidden 21/Sep/08 AltLd
John Kettle 10/Sep/08 AltLd
Hidden ?/Sep/08 Lead
andymoin 24/Aug/08 AltLd O/S

Very nice, warren ran up easy p1&2 in one pitch, then I climbed the grove and belayed above the oak. Warren did one short pitch to get us out. All the action seamed to be in the grove with an interesting committing move across a slab to establish.

with Warren
Hidden 24/Aug/08 AltLd O/S
hellboundblr 23/Aug/08 AltLd

Difficult traverse that Adrian backed off. Me P1, P2 & P3. Didn't know it was HVS.

with Adrian Goldstraw
paulpitchermp 04/Aug/08 AltLd
paulpitcher 04/Aug/08 AltLd O/S
Lawrie Brand 04/Aug/08 AltLd O/S
Hidden ?/Aug/08 Lead
Conan 26/Jul/08 AltLd O/S

Didn't realise P3 was the famous sandbag crux until I watched Chris taking a few attempts at doing it. 5a technically. Nice long exposed step over and slightly down with a small handhold for the left hand. He did it cleanly though. His 1st onsite HVS lead. I lead the rest of the climb P1,2 and 4. Each of these pitches was about 4b.

with Chris Michalak
Bowland Polkadot 20/Jul/08 AltLd
with punky and the butcher
Hidden 04/Jul/08 AltLd rpt
matt.woodfield 13/Jun/08 AltLd
Hidden 12/Jun/08 AltLd O/S
cheeky 10/Jun/08 AltLd dog

Pitch 3 traverse very tricky, used a high runner to swing across which was dissapointing.

mark4344 10/Jun/08 AltLd
with Matt Payne
Martin Bennett 07/Jun/08 -
with AlanB
Hidden 23/May/08 2nd O/S
KeithW 17/May/08 AltLd dog

Led 1 & 3, combined 1st 2 guide pitches. Weighted the rope on the awkward step into the groove on 2nd pitch, v disappointing. Excellent route though.

with Clive Greenwood
clive-greenwood 17/May/08 AltLd O/S

Keith Pitch 1 and 2, me pitch 3 and 4.

with Keith
Hidden 16/May/08 2nd
mikekeswick 10/May/08 AltLd O/S
with dunny
Martin Davies 03/May/08 AltLd O/S

Did in 3 pitches, led pitch 2. Brilliant climbing.

with Matt Murg
Hidden ?/May/08 AltLd O/S
beckycoles 19/Apr/08 AltLd

Horrible crux pitch (P3), way to hard for me, well done to Derek for leading it, 4c????? Rest of the climb v nice, was a bit cold though.

Rob1988 ?/Apr/08 Lead O/S
with Andrew
pennyb 24/Mar/08 2nd O/S
with Jon
jl 24/Mar/08 Lead
with Penny
vertical worm ??/2008 Lead O/S
nickcj ??/2008 -
Hidden ??/2008 -
daveagriff ??/2008 2nd
Alistair Everett 21/Oct/07 2nd
Jesse Dufton 21/Oct/07 Lead
bob3141 21/Oct/07 AltLd
with James, Rob Head
Karlos 30/Sep/07 2nd O/S
with Random
Adam1973 22/Sep/07 AltLd O/S
stewart murray 22/Sep/07 AltLd

Led P1 & P2 in one. Led P3. With the benefit of being on the 'blunt end' I reckon Pitch 3 can be climbed at 4C. Once you've fixed some good protection higher up in the groove, climb down to the base of the slab. Use a pinch for the left hand, stretch right leg a long way across and DOWN to a good foothold in the groove. Use a small pinch grip for the right hand to pull across ,reaching up with the left hand to a spike in the groove.

Hidden 09/Sep/07 AltLd O/S
Different Steve 05/Sep/07 AltLd O/S

Led P3, traverse move requires some thought!

Hidden ?/Sep/07 2nd
Hidden ?/Sep/07 AltLd O/S
Hidden ?/Sep/07 2nd
jimdanson 23/Aug/07 Lead
with Hannah Flynn
Steve Waters, Mynydd 10/Aug/07 AltLd O/S

Ann led the first 2 pitches in one. I led the "traverse" pitch which I would say is 5b if I went the correct way. A high runner helped me as I knew I could resort to a "tension traverse" if all else failed. Ann did not have that luxury and pinged off the traverse.

with Ann Sanderson
PanzerHanzler 06/Aug/07 AltLd dog

Made a right mare of the "delicate" step to the right with some quality air time!

with David Rafe
tomhull ?/Aug/07 Lead
tomhull ?/Aug/07 Lead
Hidden 31/Jul/07 AltLd O/S
Wilbur 29/Jul/07 AltLd O/S

Lead P2+4. Thank god i didn't lead P3 is all i can say. That move across has to be AT LEAST 5b, possibly harder. Only just held on seconding! Unless i missed a trick, but there was nothing else as far as i could see..

with Caine
beegsyboy 29/Jul/07 AltLd dnf

Backed off crux, neither of us sure extactly were to traverse. Seemed hard for 4c?

with Sandy
Ed Babs 14/Jul/07 Lead O/S
with Kate
viking ?/Jul/07 AltLd dog

fell off the crux on pitch 3

with wilbur
Tom M Williams 28/May/07 AltLd
with Andy Hobson
IanJackson 28/May/07 AltLd O/S
with Big Ian
Hidden 28/May/07 AltLd
Whitt 27/May/07 Lead O/S
with Mike, Wolfgang
Hidden 20/May/07 AltLd O/S
Hidden 20/May/07 AltLd O/S
Neil Pacey 01/May/07 AltLd O/S

Simon led the Crux 3rd pitches, no way was the first pitch 4c or the 2nd 4b.

with Simon Blythe
Abi Chard ?/May/07 Lead O/S
with Ian
richardr ?/May/07 AltLd O/S
Hidden 29/Apr/07 Lead O/S
Tim Steward 06/Apr/07 Lead O/S
with Helen Alderson
John Pickles ?/Apr/07 AltLd O/S
Hidden ?/Apr/07 AltLd O/S
Xav 19/Mar/07 AltLd O/S
with Greg Grace
Tony Little 11/Feb/07 Lead O/S
with Simon
John Lisle 03/Feb/07 Lead

E1 5c??!! You're having a laugh. One interesting move. No sign of holds breaking off.

Rob Kennard ??/2007 -
John Lisle ??/2007 -
Hidden ??/2007 -
tom.e 15/Oct/06 Lead O/S
Katy Nelson 26/Sep/06 AltLd dog

Lead 1st pitch. The second pitch was hard, apparantly the hold has broken off making it a E1 5c...

with Ellie and Sam Uni
mooseloose 10/Sep/06 AltLd dog

Agree with earlier comment, P3 5a. Get footwork right first time and it's all there. Get it wrong ????

with Maria
Hidden 08/Sep/06 Lead O/S
dave o 20/Aug/06 Lead O/S
with Julia H
Hidden 20/Aug/06 2nd O/S
Shaw Brown 07/Aug/06 AltLd

The step across the crux feels 5a, especially for the short.

with cliff brown
Hidden 05/Aug/06 AltLd O/S
Hidden ?/Aug/06 Lead O/S
Russell Lovett 30/Jul/06 Lead O/S
with gede gibons
csalvage 30/Jul/06 AltLd O/S

Bry did crux pitch, first two strung together 4a? and top pitch 4b maybe. Crux hard 4c

with Bryan
Dan 85 15/Jun/06 AltLd O/S
with Tim
colin milton 12/Jun/06 AltLd

lead p1

with shaun l
peterp ?/Jun/06 AltLd O/S
with Sully
lewk_c 08/May/06 2nd O/S

First ever trad route

The Pulsing Motorik of Neu! ?/Apr/06 AltLd O/S
with Rebecca
Hidden ??/2006 Lead O/S
clams ??/2006 AltLd

Led P2

with AD
jim robertson ??/2006 -
Hidden ??/2006 -
simon kimber ??/2006 Lead O/S
Hammy 14/Sep/05 AltLd
with Joe Gittens
ChrisBrooke 27/Aug/05 AltLd
with John Inkpen
GPN ?/Aug/05 AltLd
with Sam Clifford
Hidden 31/Jul/05 Lead O/S
Hidden ?/Jul/05 Lead O/S
tom_1985 ?/Feb/05 2nd O/S
cem 23/Jan/05 AltLd O/S
ewen ??/2005 AltLd O/S
Hidden ?/Sep/04 AltLd
kato'sdad 25/Aug/04 AltLd
with Giles Trussel
Hidden 24/Jul/04 AltLd O/S
Nigel Coe 23/Jul/04 AltLd
with Tim Dunsby
Hidden 13/Jul/04 AltLd O/S
malc 01/May/04 Lead dog
with GP
crossdressingrodney 04/Apr/04 AltLd O/S
The Bad Cough ??/2004 Lead O/S
with Paul Beacall
steev ??/2004 -
nige pacer 06/Jul/03 AltLd O/S
karly54 30/Mar/03 AltLd O/S
with Peter Goodwin
NickJH ??/2003 -
Hidden ??/2003 2nd
Shaw Brown 28/Jul/02 AltLd
with David Jones
Hidden 31/May/02 AltLd rpt
Hidden ?/Apr/02 AltLd O/S
Hidden ??/2002 -
adamwesthead 18/Oct/01 Lead O/S

Lead pitch 1 2 & 4

with Hoult
Hidden 21/Jul/01 Lead
EllieWoods 24/Jun/01 AltLd O/S

Led p1/2 and p4

with Si
Hidden 18/Mar/00 AltLd
Hidden ?/Mar/00 - ??/2000 Lead
Hidden ?/Mar/99 AltLd O/S
Hidden 04/Jun/98 AltLd O/S
five ?/May/97 AltLd rpt
with CH, TW
Ian Jones ??/1997 Lead O/S

We had no runners just a 9mm rope,. Doug picked up some stones and used them as chock stones just like the old days...

with Doug Scott
Hammy 24/Jun/96 Lead
with Richard Munro
Hidden ?/May/96 AltLd
lost.arrow 03/Mar/96 AltLd
with Iain Kerr
EddieA ?/Apr/95 AltLd O/S
with Simon W
Dave Westby ??/1995 Lead
with Rob Lewis
five ?/Aug/93 Lead dog

Got lost on Original Route

with TW
biggianthead 20/Jul/93 -
with HT
Narked4fun ??/1993 -
malc 28/Jul/92 Lead
Hidden ?/Aug/91 Lead O/S
Steve Crowe 10/Jun/90 AltLd O/S
with Wendy, Bob Bennett
cragspud ??/1990 AltLd
Andy Say 12/Jun/88 Lead
Chris the Tall ?/Jul/87 Lead O/S
with Bernadette
Hidden ??/1987 -
kjacks ??/1986 Lead

With Julian ?

Rich Kirby ??/1985 Lead O/S
with Graham Cairns/Ray Kelly
Ghastly Rubberfeet ??/1982 Lead
ewar woowar ??/1982 Lead
Bob 04/May/81 AltLd
with D. MacIntosh , P. Dawson
babymoac 14/Feb/81 2nd
with Mark
mark-abz 23/Jun/80 Lead
with Richard O
Hammy 01/Jun/80 AltLd
with Rob Lawson
Hidden ??/1980 -
Hidden ??/1980 Lead O/S
Lone Rider ?/May/77 AltLd
RichardMc 23/May/76 AltLd
with Dave Langmead
tmawer 29/Nov/75 Lead O/S
with Rick, brother
Hidden 19/Oct/75 Lead O/S
Paul Clarke ??/1975 -
with FMC
jon 29/Apr/73 Lead
with Elaine
Rog Wilko ?/Sep/71 AltLd

I was the least experienced of a rope of three. The other two tried the crux traverse for some time but failed. I was persuaded to have a try and suddenly found myself leading the rest of the route which I can still remember finding at (or beyond) my limit. Probably got two bits of gear in.

Gordon Stainforth 09/Jul/71 AltLd

'The main pitch is good and steep'.

with Tim James
tapley 18/Apr/69 2nd
RichardMc 30/Nov/68 Lead
with Dave J Roberts
RichardMc 17/Nov/68 2nd
with Nigel van Zwannenberg
Dave Musgrove 09/Jun/68 -
with Bob Knapton
Hidden ??/1967 -
Martin Bennett 15/Jan/66 -
with SGW
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