Rockfax Description
A harder and even better finish to The Grooves. From the belay at the top of P2 of The Grooves, move right to below the arete and belay. Climb the groove on the right until a hand traverse leads out left to a jug on the arete in a mind-blowing position. Move up to the next jug on the arete and continue on until you can make a balancy move right onto easier ground. Finish up the top of the final pitch of The Grooves. © Rockfax

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User Date Style Notes & Partners
tim whitaker 27 Jun Lead
with geoff b
with geoff b
Hidden 27 Jun AltLd O/S
geoff b 27 Jun 2nd A great finish to The Grooves. Tim rather cunningly climbed the wall on the right rather than commit to the overhanging arête! I had to second it with a sack: phew!
with Tim Whitaker
A great finish to The Grooves. Tim rather cunningly climbed the wall on the right rather than commit to the overhanging arête! I had to second it with a sack: phew!
with Tim Whitaker
Hidden 23 Jun Lead O/S
Hidden 5 May Lead O/S
DavidMcK 22 Apr 2nd O/S Outrageous position, looks like it should be about E6 but is actually really easy at E2
Outrageous position, looks like it should be about E6 but is actually really easy at E2
calumhicks 22 Apr 2nd O/S Wild! Get on it
with John Mckenna, DavidMcK
Wild! Get on it
with John Mckenna, DavidMcK
John McKenna 22 Apr Lead O/S Just outrageous on those jugs!
Just outrageous on those jugs!
Adam John Haynes 19 Apr Lead rpt Twenty years after the last time I did this.
with benrhyd
Twenty years after the last time I did this.
with benrhyd
benrhyd 19 Apr 2nd
Hidden 5 Aug, 2018 Lead O/S
Rob Greenwood - UKClimbing 14 Jul, 2018 Lead O/S Worth doing just to hold those jugs on the arete. Wild...
Worth doing just to hold those jugs on the arete. Wild...
penny.orr 14 Jul, 2018 2nd
Duncan Campbell 7 Jul, 2018 Lead O/S Pretty good but not as good as I expected. Better than the actual finish to the grooves though. If you do p2 of that fine you shouldn’t come a cropper on this!
with Ollie B
Pretty good but not as good as I expected. Better than the actual finish to the grooves though. If you do p2 of that fine you shouldn’t come a cropper on this!
with Ollie B
Mark Stevenson 28 Jun, 2018 Lead O/S
with Luke Doherty
with Luke Doherty
Hidden 9 Jun, 2018 2nd O/S
justjd108 5 Jun, 2018 Lead O/S Great fun. Climbed straight up from Grooves belay to join the traverse just before first jug.
Great fun. Climbed straight up from Grooves belay to join the traverse just before first jug.
jld579 ?Jun, 2018 AltLd O/S
Hidden 23 May, 2018 Lead O/S
Hidden 21 May, 2018 2nd
Hidden 21 May, 2018 AltLd
Hidden ?Jul, 2017 Lead O/S
Greg Cunningham 19 Jun, 2017 Lead O/S Did Grooves in 80s but not this finish.
Did Grooves in 80s but not this finish.
Rich Kirby 19 Jun, 2017 2nd rpt
with Greg Cunningham
with Greg Cunningham
Hidden 4 Jun, 2017 2nd O/S
Joss Simpson 4 Jun, 2017 Lead
Sardien 26 May, 2017 2nd O/S Superb and nearly desperate but managed to find some power somewhere to just get up it. Sensational pitch and impressive lead from Kate!
with Kate
Superb and nearly desperate but managed to find some power somewhere to just get up it. Sensational pitch and impressive lead from Kate!
with Kate
Rollo 16 Aug, 2016 2nd O/S
mikeyjbs 16 Aug, 2016 Lead O/S
with Rollo
with Rollo
benkelsey 3 Oct, 2015 AltLd O/S Cold hands but ace easy climbing. Spent a loooong time on the jug and heel at the arete trying to get rid of the hot aches. Easier than pitch 2 of the grooves. Really good.
Cold hands but ace easy climbing. Spent a loooong time on the jug and heel at the arete trying to get rid of the hot aches. Easier than pitch 2 of the grooves. Really good.
shaunhumphreys 3 Oct, 2015 Lead O/S Ace exposure wasnt too mad but amazing climbing in a pretty cool position!
Ace exposure wasnt too mad but amazing climbing in a pretty cool position!
Hidden ?Jul, 2015 Lead O/S
KKilroy 15 Sep, 2014 AltLd O/S
with bradley
with bradley
frank ramsay 14 Sep, 2014 Lead
with Aaron
with Aaron
Aaron Lines 14 Sep, 2014 2nd
Ewan Russell 24 Jul, 2014 Lead O/S
with Halla
with Halla
Hidden 23 Jul, 2014 Lead O/S
Uisdean hawthorn 23 Jul, 2014 2nd
ned_85 22 Jul, 2014 Lead
with Didrik Kristiansen
with Didrik Kristiansen
James Oswald 2 Jul, 2014 2nd O/S Amazing positions and climbing, a great finish to the grooves
Amazing positions and climbing, a great finish to the grooves
Rachel Slater 2 Jul, 2014 Lead O/S
wi11 30 Jun, 2014 Lead O/S Boldish start into a few meters of spectacularly placed climbing
Boldish start into a few meters of spectacularly placed climbing
Helen Gibson 30 Jun, 2014 2nd super, brilliant pitch!
with Will Hardy
super, brilliant pitch!
with Will Hardy
Wevcore 23 Jun, 2014 2nd O/S
Luxulyan 23 Jun, 2014 Lead O/S
with Wevcore
with Wevcore
Hidden 21 Jun, 2014 Lead O/S
Patu 21 Jun, 2014 2nd β
with Nicolas
with Nicolas
alexjz 21 Jun, 2014 Lead O/S incredible pitch. lead as the final pitch of The Edge of Time gaining the arete from the left
with James Marjot
incredible pitch. lead as the final pitch of The Edge of Time gaining the arete from the left
with James Marjot
Hidden 19 Jun, 2014 2nd
Glyn 15 Jun, 2014 Lead β
with Konrad Doyle
with Konrad Doyle
Mike_Hayes 15 Jun, 2014 Lead O/S Amazing exposure. Start wet but added to experience
Amazing exposure. Start wet but added to experience
mike mo ??, 2014 -
JamesWilliams ??, 2014 2nd dog ropes got stuck so sat on sling
ropes got stuck so sat on sling
Hidden ??, 2014 -
mike mo ??, 2014 -
Si ??, 2014 -
mike mo ??, 2014 -
jgordon75 14 Jul, 2013 Lead O/S
with Tim Jepson
with Tim Jepson
Hidden 13 Jul, 2013 2nd O/S
Hidden 10 Jul, 2013 Lead
atapper21 10 Jul, 2013 2nd
with AJCW
with AJCW
Dizz 8 Sep, 2012 2nd O/S Excellent! Superb heelhook rest suspended over the valley :-)
with megan, David Barlow
Excellent! Superb heelhook rest suspended over the valley :-)
with megan, David Barlow
steveb2006 10 Aug, 2012 Lead Superb finish to The Grooves - but mot much climbing is actually on the arete
Superb finish to The Grooves - but mot much climbing is actually on the arete
Dafydd Llywelyn 29 May, 2012 Lead dog
Hidden 27 May, 2012 2nd rpt
Hidden ?May, 2012 2nd
efrance24234 25 Mar, 2012 Lead O/S Stunning! fnished the grooves normaly the abbed back gown to do this!
Stunning! fnished the grooves normaly the abbed back gown to do this!
OffshoreAndy ?Jan, 2012 2nd
OffshoreAndy ?Jan, 2012 2nd
OffshoreAndy ?Jan, 2012 2nd
OffshoreAndy ?Jan, 2012 2nd
Hidden ??, 2012 -
kingholmesy ??, 2012 Lead O/S Superb.
Superb.
Hidden 1 Oct, 2011 AltLd O/S
al99 4 Jul, 2011 AltLd O/S
with Andrew Bitmead
with Andrew Bitmead
Hidden 23 Apr, 2011 Lead O/S
david morse 22 Apr, 2011 Lead O/S A spectacular finish to the grooves. Out there!
with lole
A spectacular finish to the grooves. Out there!
with lole
Owain Llewelyn 20 Apr, 2011 Lead
with Dad
with Dad
Hidden 20 Apr, 2011 Lead O/S
Hidden 20 Apr, 2011 2nd O/S
Rory Shaw ??, 2011 -
Hidden ??, 2011 -
Hidden ??, 2011 -
Hidden ??, 2011 -
Graham C 16 Jun, 2010 2nd O/S Great fun
Great fun
Marti999 16 Jun, 2010 Lead O/S
geoff b 16 Jun, 2010 Lead A super pitch.
A super pitch.
MikePycroft 16 Jun, 2010 2nd Seconded Geoff as finish to grooves. Struggled
with geoff b
Seconded Geoff as finish to grooves. Struggled
with geoff b
Hidden 25 May, 2010 2nd O/S
Hidden 25 May, 2010 Lead O/S
Chubbard 17 Apr, 2010 Lead O/S awesome!
with C Godfrey
awesome!
with C Godfrey
soph 1 Jan, 2010 -
dan gibson 18 Apr, 2009 Solo O/S quite exciting
quite exciting
Hidden 23 Jul, 2008 Lead dog
Ched 1 Jun, 2008 Lead O/S Did the grooves about 20 years ago, always meant to come back for the grand finale. Today was the day. Well worth the wait. Awesome.
with Gethin
Did the grooves about 20 years ago, always meant to come back for the grand finale. Today was the day. Well worth the wait. Awesome.
with Gethin
Hidden 5 Jun, 2007 Lead O/S
sebrider ?Jun, 2007 2nd O/S Awesome!!
with Roby Rudolf
Awesome!!
with Roby Rudolf
pete johnson 9 Aug, 2003 -
with Rob, Kevin Sales
with Rob, Kevin Sales
Hidden ??, 1999 -
Hidden ??, 1998 Lead O/S
Hidden 18 Aug, 1996 Lead O/S
D Tempest 6 Aug, 1995 2nd
with Rick
with Rick
pete johnson 9 Jul, 1995 AltLd
with Pete Swanson
with Pete Swanson
Bruce Kerr 7 Jul, 1994 AltLd
with Robert Durran
with Robert Durran
Hidden ?Jun, 1994 Lead O/S
Andy Edgar ??, 1993 2nd Fantastic pitch for it's position and enjoyable cimbing
with Hugh Woodland
Fantastic pitch for it's position and enjoyable cimbing
with Hugh Woodland
PaulTanton ?Jul, 1989 2nd O/S Did this after the Skull. Very good lead by Mark
Did this after the Skull. Very good lead by Mark
Mike Owen 25 Jun, 1988 Lead O/S
with Elaine Owen
with Elaine Owen
Hidden 20 May, 1988 2nd
Nick Biven 17 Apr, 1987 AltLd Climbed six times as it's so good! April 1987 with Owain Jones, May 1987 with Simon Rose, April 1988 with Karl Strange, Oct 1988 with Ian Henderson, May 1990 with Mark Wickenden and 1996 with Ellie Roddick. "I felt a bit detached from reality then." - quote from M Wickenden on topping out.
with Owain Jones
Climbed six times as it's so good! April 1987 with Owain Jones, May 1987 with Simon Rose, April 1988 with Karl Strange, Oct 1988 with Ian Henderson, May 1990 with Mark Wickenden and 1996 with Ellie Roddick. "I felt a bit detached from reality then." - quote from M Wickenden on topping out.
with Owain Jones
charlesmfrench 11 Jul, 1982 2nd O/S
with Ian Milne
with Ian Milne
clanger ??, 1982 Lead
cenotaphcorner 4 May, 1980 AltLd O/S
with David Stainthorpe
with David Stainthorpe
Hidden ??, 1980 AltLd
Hidden ??, 1980 -
duncan ?Jun, 1979 Lead O/S
with Bob the lob
with Bob the lob
Hidden ??, 1978 Lead O/S
Hidden 19 Jun, 1977 AltLd
Falko 9 Feb, 1975 Lead O/S Another sandbag from Bill but fate decreed retribution. After completing the pitch (free and clean) I flicked the rope over a spike to protect the second climber (Bill) but as he climbed the spike fell out and caught him a glancing (luckily) blow on his climbing helmet! Bill was a seasoned gritstone climber and finished the pitch with poise. Roger was a relative novice but a superb natural athlete. His performance was exemplary.
with Roger Edwards, Bill Briggs
Another sandbag from Bill but fate decreed retribution. After completing the pitch (free and clean) I flicked the rope over a spike to protect the second climber (Bill) but as he climbed the spike fell out and caught him a glancing (luckily) blow on his climbing helmet! Bill was a seasoned gritstone climber and finished the pitch with poise. Roger was a relative novice but a superb natural athlete. His performance was exemplary.
with Roger Edwards, Bill Briggs
uphillnow 4 Jul, 1967 2nd
with Pete Allison
with Pete Allison
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