Rockfax Description
A harder and even better finish to The Grooves. From the belay at the top of P2 of The Grooves, move right to below the arete and belay. Climb the groove on the right until a hand traverse leads out left to a jug on the arete in a mind-blowing position. Move up to the next jug on the arete and continue on until you can make a balancy move right onto easier ground. Finish up the top of the final pitch of The Grooves. © Rockfax

Ticklists: North Wales Rock Graded List.

Hidden ?/Jul Lead O/S
Greg Cunningham 19/Jun Lead O/S

Did Grooves in 80s but not this finish.

Rich Kirby 19/Jun 2nd rpt
with Greg Cunningham
Hidden 04/Jun 2nd O/S
Sardien ??/2017 2nd O/S

Superb and nearly desperate but managed to find some power somewhere to just get up it. Sensational pitch and impressive lead from Kate!

with Kate
Rollo 16/Aug/16 2nd O/S
mikeyjbs 16/Aug/16 Lead O/S
with Rollo
benkelsey 03/Oct/15 AltLd O/S

Cold hands but ace easy climbing. Spent a loooong time on the jug and heel at the arete trying to get rid of the hot aches. Easier than pitch 2 of the grooves. Really good.

with Shaun Humphreys
shaunhumphreys 03/Oct/15 Lead O/S

Ace exposure wasnt too mad but amazing climbing in a pretty cool position!

scottcoates ?/Jul/15 Lead O/S
with Chris
KKilroy 15/Sep/14 AltLd O/S
with bradley
frank ramsay 14/Sep/14 Lead
with Aaron
Aaron Lines 14/Sep/14 2nd
Ewan Russell 24/Jul/14 Lead O/S
with Halla
Hidden 23/Jul/14 Lead O/S
Uisdean hawthorn 23/Jul/14 2nd
ned_85 22/Jul/14 Lead
with Didrik Kristiansen
James Oswald 02/Jul/14 2nd O/S

Amazing positions and climbing, a great finish to the grooves

Rachel Slater 02/Jul/14 Lead O/S
wi11 30/Jun/14 Lead O/S

Boldish start into a few meters of spectacularly placed climbing

with Helen G
Helen Gibson 30/Jun/14 2nd

super, brilliant pitch!

with Will Hardy
Wevcore 23/Jun/14 2nd O/S
with Rich
Luxulyan 23/Jun/14 Lead O/S
with Wevcore
Hidden 21/Jun/14 Lead O/S
Patu 21/Jun/14 2nd β
with Nicolas
alexjz 21/Jun/14 Lead O/S

incredible pitch. lead as the final pitch of The Edge of Time gaining the arete from the left

with James Marjot
Hidden 19/Jun/14 2nd
Glyn 15/Jun/14 Lead β
with Konrad Doyle
Mike_Hayes 15/Jun/14 Lead O/S

Amazing exposure. Start wet but added to experience

mike mo ??/2014 -
JamesWilliams ??/2014 2nd dog

ropes got stuck so sat on sling

Hidden ??/2014 -
mike mo ??/2014 -
Si ??/2014 -
mike mo ??/2014 -
jgordon75 14/Jul/13 Lead O/S
with Tim Jepson
Hidden 13/Jul/13 2nd O/S
Hidden 10/Jul/13 Lead
Dizz 08/Sep/12 2nd O/S

Excellent! Superb heelhook rest suspended over the valley :-)

with megan, David B
Hidden 10/Aug/12 Lead
Dafydd Llywelyn 29/May/12 Lead dog
Hidden 27/May/12 2nd rpt
Hidden ?/May/12 2nd
efrance24234 25/Mar/12 Lead O/S

Stunning! fnished the grooves normaly the abbed back gown to do this!

OffshoreAndy ?/Jan/12 2nd
OffshoreAndy ?/Jan/12 2nd
OffshoreAndy ?/Jan/12 2nd
OffshoreAndy ?/Jan/12 2nd
Hidden ??/2012 -
kingholmesy ??/2012 Lead O/S


Hidden 01/Oct/11 AltLd O/S
al99 04/Jul/11 AltLd O/S
with Andrew Bitmead
Hidden 23/Apr/11 Lead O/S
david morse 22/Apr/11 Lead O/S

A spectacular finish to the grooves. Out there!

with lole
Owain Llewelyn 20/Apr/11 Lead
with Dad
Hidden 20/Apr/11 Lead O/S
Hidden 20/Apr/11 2nd O/S
Rory Shaw ??/2011 -
Hidden ??/2011 -
Hidden ??/2011 -
Hidden ??/2011 -
Graham C 16/Jun/10 2nd O/S

Great fun

with Marti
Marti999 16/Jun/10 Lead O/S
geoff b 16/Jun/10 Lead
Hidden 16/Jun/10 2nd
Hidden 25/May/10 2nd O/S
Hidden 25/May/10 Lead O/S
Chubbard 17/Apr/10 Lead O/S


with C Godfrey
soph 01/Jan/10 -
dan gibson 18/Apr/09 Solo O/S

quite exciting

Hidden 23/Jul/08 Lead dog
Ched 01/Jun/08 Lead O/S

Did the grooves about 20 years ago, always meant to come back for the grand finale. Today was the day. Well worth the wait. Awesome.

with Gethin
Hidden 05/Jun/07 Lead O/S
sebrider ?/Jun/07 2nd O/S


with Roby Rudolf
Hidden ??/1999 -
Hidden ??/1998 Lead O/S
Hidden 18/Aug/96 Lead O/S
D Tempest 06/Aug/95 2nd
with Rick
Bruce Kerr 07/Jul/94 AltLd
with Robert Durran
Hidden ?/Jun/94 Lead O/S
Andy Edgar ??/1993 2nd

Fantastic pitch for it's position and enjoyable cimbing

with Hugh Woodland
PaulTanton ?/Jul/89 2nd O/S

Did this after the Skull. Very good lead by Mark

Mike Owen 25/Jun/88 Lead O/S
with Elaine Owen
Hidden 20/May/88 2nd
Nick Biven 17/Apr/87 AltLd

Climbed six times as it's so good! April 1987 with Owain Jones, May 1987 with Simon Rose, April 1988 with Karl Strange, Oct 1988 with Ian Henderson, May 1990 with Mark Wickenden and 1996 with Ellie Roddick. "I felt a bit detached from reality then." - quote from M Wickenden on topping out.

with Owain Jones
charlesmfrench 11/Jul/82 2nd O/S
with Ian Milne
Hidden ??/1980 AltLd
Hidden ??/1980 -
duncan ?/Jun/79 Lead O/S
with Bob
Hidden ??/1978 Lead O/S
jon 19/Jun/77 AltLd
with Pete
Falko 09/Feb/75 Lead O/S

Another sandbag from Bill but fate decreed retribution. After completing the pitch (free and clean) I flicked the rope over a spike to protect the second climber (Bill) but as he climbed the spike fell out and caught him a glancing (luckily) blow on his climbing helmet! Bill was a seasoned gritstone climber and finished the pitch with poise. Roger was a relative novice but a superb natural athlete. His performance was exemplary.

with Roger Edwards, Bill Briggs
uphillnow ??/1966 2nd
with Pete Allison
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