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Ice Axes on Eurostar Trains

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Following an approach from a member, the Mountaineering Council of Scotland (MCofS) has clarified the procedure that mountaineers need to follow if they wish to travel with ice tools on Eurostar trains.

Eurostar has a policy of not allowing certain items that could be used as weapons within the cabin baggage carried by passengers.  The following section is from the “Prohibited Items” section of their website at www.eurostar.com.

“Any article which is inherently dangerous or which could be used to commit an act of violence or threat will also not be allowed.  For example items such as imitation, replica or toy guns, ice axes, household cutlery, camping tools, shriek alarms, hypodermic syringes and butane gas canisters will not be permitted.”

After discussing this reference to ice axes with Eurostar we can now offer the following advice to mountaineers wishing to take their ice tools with them on Eurostar trains either to or from the Continent.

  • All ice tools should be packed into a single bag and taken to the Registered Luggage Department (known as Euro Despatch) when checking in for a Eurostar train.
  • To ensure that your bag travels on the same train as yourself you should check in your bag of ice tools a minimum of one hour before departure.  The more time you allow for checking in your bag the more likely you are to have a smooth transfer.  Better to allow two hours rather than one.
  • There will be a charge of £15 per bag in each direction for sending an item of baggage by registered luggage.  Share a bag with your climbing partner.
  • If you wish to speak to Euro Despatch in advance to seek their advice on checking in a bag, or if you have any other queries, their number is 020 7843 7752.

MCofS Membership Development Officer Mike Dales said: “Many mountaineers want to use Eurostar to travel to the Alps and other European destinations, but this clause in Eurostar's policy was causing a great deal of confusion.  The response we have had from Eurostar has been very helpful and the MCofS is delighted to be able to pass on this advice to mountaineers.  I am sure a great many mountaineers will build in the extra time to their journey and be able to take their ice tools with them when they travel to the mountains of Europe.”

For further information contact Mike Dales on 01738 493 942 or mike@mcofs.org.uk or go to the MCofS website at: http://www.mcofs.org.uk


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31 Mar, 2010
Hmm was this is a case of don't ask and just get on with it..... (and so now there is extra hassle caused by drawing attention and clarification) Or were people actually having problems in practice.
31 Mar, 2010
There has been some discussion on the Eagle Ski Club mailing list regarding this since about October last year. Eventually the ESC, together with the BMC and CC wrote to Eurostar in the hope of having this rule relaxed. Eurostar replied that the rules were in place for a reason and would not be changed. It's a shame, as being able to carry your luggage on board made the train a viable alternative to flying and so was an excellent option for those concerned about their 'carbon footprint'. Those of us who want convenient, reliable and relatively low-stress transportation will continue to use our cars.
31 Mar, 2010
Interesting. I've taken ice axes on eurostar trains I would estimate at least 15 times in the last 5 years. I've often had my bag searched, usually because they have spotted the axes on the scanner, but I've never been stopped. Last time it happened they unpacked my whole kit bag, when we got to my ice axes, I said something like "it'll be these you're after", but no, those were fine they said and kept on looking, finally finding the offending item - a small penknife!
31 Mar, 2010
Sadly it feels more like a money making scheme than an objective assessment of risks. I mean are they going to stop people taking ski poles on the ski trains as according to their rules "could be used to commit an act of violence or threat will also not be allowed". One of the huge advantages of the Eurostar is that it wasn't governed to the same security standards as airlines, if they take that away they will start to lose business.
31 Mar, 2010
Presumably their concern is that the ice axe can be used to threaten the train driver, hijack the train and crash it into a building full of innocents! What are camping tools? Are burners (ie the stove minus the cylinders) also banned? The security staff at Liverpool and Stansted airports wouldn't let me take mine on the plane, although Easyjet said it was ok.
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