I just wondered, watching this and other videos, is it not cheating a bit having the quickdraws already in place? Not wanting to take anything away from the expertise and difficulty of this route, but, really, wouldn't it be 'real climbing' or as near to trad, if you had to place the quickdraw too?
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What incredible rock at Flinders Island! Who eats an orange like that though....
I just wondered, watching this and other videos, is it not cheating a bit having the quickdraws already in place? Not wanting to take anything away from the expertise and difficulty of this route, but, really, wouldn't it be 'real climbing' or as near to trad, if you had to place the quickdraw too?
When it’s a red point it is usual to have draws in place.
You're either trolling, or massively missing the point here and having some weird trad ego trip.
Is there some local ethic that prevents the first part of Firetail being bolted? Is the first section part of a trad line?