In reply to melmyo:
the thing is we just climbed Valerie's Rib the other week, and se didnt remember it being the climb. this was the inital confusion and reasen for the post.
it could be tho i mean the pitch the belayer is on looks like that overhang/shelf on the first pich, i was leaning into the rock blaying you just like that and then the next pitch up there is a tree, just befor the easy ground that looks like the tree you belayed off and the the top out was like inside the rock.