/ La Sprotiva mountain boot sizes
Also I ave narrow feet whihc I believe makes Sportiva a good choice, any views on this?
I have La Sportiva solutions in 40, La Sportiva - Cirque Pro in 43 and La Sportiva Nepal Evo GTX in 45. I don't like 5.10 because the toe box is too narrow, but I had to get foot beds to take some of the room out of the heel in the Evo GTX. (it's recommended to get foot beds anyway)
Remember you need to size up for thick socks in mountain boots.
Usually Sportiva boots sizes (as opposed to climbing shoe sizes) are about right , but really it's probably best not to worry too much about the numbers on the boots - they're just numbers. If you can try them on, just get whichever size fits best (and remember lots of their boots come in half-sizes, so best if you can go somewhere that stocks 'em).
And don't forget to take along your socks and footbeds when you try them.
I wouldn't worry about what size you normally are and go with whatever feels best, sizing does differ completely between brands and even within their own ranges. I noted this in a review of LS rock shoes:
"One note on the sizing: La Sportiva sizes seem generous. I have been wearing 41, 41.5 or 42 in lots of different models from different manufacturers for years, whilst the Cliffs in a size 40 are a comfy fit with my toes flat. As ever it is best to try before you buy, but if you need to mail order, consider going down a size or even two from your non-Sportiva size. Oddly, I have three pairs of Sportiva mountaineering and ice climbing boots, all in 42 and all fit well, so this may just be a rock shoe thing." http://www.ukclimbing.com/gear/review.php?id=2334
Are you going somewhere exciting?
My advice would be to get your feet measured on a brannock device as this will give you your ACTUAL foot size rather than saying you are size X because my shoes/boots are a size X
The moral of the story - ignore the numbers, go with what feels the best.
Thanks all but for various reasons I'm having to take a punt on the size for various reasons (mail order) hence needing to know whether to gamble either on my normal size or one size up.
Yes and no, I'm going to Mont Blanc which I guess is pretty ordinary but I'm excited as I've not been for 16 years (hence the need for new boots and possibly a new jumper)
My advice would be the total opposite! In work we are required to use these to measure peoples feet. Half of the time they are way out. You go and find a boot in the size that the brannock device says and they are too big or too small. I had a customer who measured in at a 7 and left with a size 6 because that is what fitted. Same with another customer who's father phoned up later because I measured his kids feet as a 10 and he left with a pair of 9.5 boots.
My advice is try on the size closes to what you normal wear, if its too big try a smaller one, if its too small try a bigger one. Go on what fits, not what the numbers say. Simples.
Is there any chance you can get into a shop to try some on? Not necessarily buy them from there but at least try them on first?
> Is there any chance you can get into a shop to try some on? Not necessarily buy them from there but at least try them on first?
Thats what I would do.
Similarly, my Nepal Extremes are +2 sizes on my normal shoes.
my normal city size is 41, trekking/climbg size is 42, but i wear LS Nepal Extreeme and the best size was 42.5. Evo GTX has thermals a lot worse then Extreeme model, so question is - if nepal extreeme size 42.5 was perfect for me, nepal evo would be too or not ?
how looks like in practice, the thickness inside the shoe in these two models: Thinsulate (extreeme) and Duratherm (evo) ?
most people I fitted went down 1/2 a size in evo compared to extreme, but mainly due to foot shape it was a better boot for them,
the thickness of insulation is about the same through the boot, but the tongue pad on the evo is alot thinner
I know it doesnt help you in your situation but footwear is best purchased by trying them on
i don't want a situation that at higher temperatures the rate of i swell which is natural, normal and will be a problem with my fingers. i've that problem with aku shoes.
if nothing changes i'll buy size 42.5.
size some too big is better than too small...
"most people I fitted went down 1/2 a size in evo compared to extreme, but mainly due to foot shape it was a better boot for them" hmm can you explain this ?
btw - i went on the Mont Blanc last weekend, 40% people on the road has nepal evo gtx... ;)
My trainers and aproach shoes are all 42
My Sportiva Nepal Extreme's are 44.5
My rock shoes (5:10 Anasazi VS) are 41
All feel right when I'm wearing them.
Hope that helps you.
Erm... basically the toe profile/forefoot of the Evo is not quite as pointy therefore you could drop down half a size because with Extremes it wasnt always the case that the big toe hit the end but the smaller toes, this is less likely to happen with the more rounded toe of the Evo
"What fits, Fits"!!
1 pain: boots too tight (you can get them stretched)
2 blisters: probably too loose (maybe new insoles or heel grippers) - note that with plastics and some B3 boots you can put in a sheet of neoprene to reduce the volume - this can work a treat with double boots - I've known someone cut up a karrimat as an emergency measure and then kept this in since it worked so well.
3 not freezing your feet (stretch, but can't do much about the volume over the bridge of the foot, and if too tight here you can cut off the circulation to your foot, since big veins go over this area - and this is really bad news - if this is a problem, it's probably new boots).
4 yes, getting cold is a disaster and can risk your toes to frostbite, but no-one has mentioned the issue of edging and not falling on snow plods. So many people ramble on about arresting, but the thing is not to fall in the first place - this is SO important. Now, I've had boots where the front lug seems to stick out a mile (scarpa mainly) and I just find this decreases the precision of footwork - which is a major issue.
5 stability - I have merrells which have a very wide and soft sole unit - which is brilliant. And some asolo b2s which are good volume in the shoes itself but very narrow in the foot sole unit, which is good for edging but not so good for snow slopes. The worst I have is a pair of raichle mount envy's, which have a weirdly unstable but very stiff sole unit, very bad for stability when walking and jumping, hopping from rock to rock. They are going.
These criteria really do pull in different directions - tight for precision, loose but not too loose for insulation, etc etc.
So...I have one foot at 41 and one at 42 - which is a complete pain - and have some pretty close fitting garmont B3s for precise work (they have been professionally stretched) and some 42 nepal extremes, which fit brilliantly with one pair of thickish woollen alpine socks and the standard insoles. They do not restrict bloodflow oevr the bridge - which is vital for keeping your toes.
Sportiva seem to be the same as your normal size (but yes the evos are a very different volume and fit - narrow in the heel and tight over the bridge); scarpas seem to be huge (though not the mt blancs) and asolos are supposed to be narrow but aren't necessarily (my double AFS101s at 42 are huge)...
try them on for hours in the shop ... and you'll still get it wrong sometimes...which hurts the wallet a lot...
Except that they're not! (Being amongst the very few boots that suit my misshapen broad feet, which can only reinforce the need to try when fit is such a personal thing...)
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