In reply to MarkDH08:
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> I've also been loking at these trousers, but as I'd probably have to get them online I was wondering about the sizing. I normally take a medium in everything but my 32 inch/81 cm waist is bang on the medium-large border on their size charts. Any blokes that have these trousers with the same measurements found them to be on the tight or loose side? I generally prefer trousers to be a bit looser than tighter.
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> Also, are these ok for all year round use or are they a bit too warm even on their own for spring/summer use (Scottish summer, haha!)?
I'm a 32 to 33 inch waist and the medium fits me. I could wear a large but they would be too long in the leg for me (I'm a 31 inch inside leg).
I sometimes wear them on their own, but wear a pair of Marmot Driclime Side Zip Pants under them for skiing and colder climbing days (I never use over trousers with them, but I did wear thermals, Driclime Sidezip Pants and Bionassay trousers in Norway when it was -20c)
Too warm for summer, but would work for summer alpine if you used shorts in the bottom of the valley.