/ Ski Destination - Inspiration Required
1)Medium size party, 8 adults
2)5 competent skiers, (i.e. blacks routinely and some off piste), 2 beginners, 1 non skier
3) Christmas trip, so needs to be snowsure
4) Preferably accesible by train
5) Preferably French, but other destinations considered so long as they meets point 3) and perhaps 4)
Considered so far: Val Thorens (been there too often), Val D'Isere (not great for beginners), Courcheval/3 Valleys (possibly, based in the valley), Alpe D'Huez...
Other suggestions gratefully received!
We went to Tignes last year and that was fab, this year we are off to Meribel.
Though i guess maybe you have been to these places too,
We looked at les arcs too so that maybe a good choice.
We go at the start of Jan.
I'd give Les Deux Alpes a miss. I did a season there and you will find the skiing limiting if you are better than a 'red' skier. Also much of the easy skiing is on the glacier and beginners are sometimes reluctant to go up there and cold when they get there.
ps. try Snowheads for many (many) threads that may be helpful in your decision making process
I imagine that would be a good choice. I have been to Lech which is in the next valley and trained it from Zurich.
BSM itself is a very pleasant working French town, with plenty of bars and reataurants (at a cheaper price than on the slopes).The place is very geared up for skiing, with several ski hire shops - in the town.
Access to the slopes is very easy using the funicular, 1st train up gets you to 1600 before the 1st lifts start, and also for the beginners, ski school starts. The only drawback, is that this is your only point of entry to the Paradiski network, so the return back home can be a bit repetetive night after night, and if you intend to return back for lunch, a large chunk of your day will be gone.
Austria has great skiing but shit food. Unless you like schitzel every day. For lunch and dinner. Of course you can vary it by having cordon bleu occassionally (schitzel kiev). And how much fookin' grated carrot can a man eat - obviously loads if you are Tyrolean.
Wine is not very good compared with France unless you are spending a fair bit but the beer is far better.
But you do get a free ski bag with Lufthansa if you are a Miles and More Member (register in advance for membership I think) so fly to Munich and train from there to Innsbruck.
Mayhofen is good skiing but don't know about Christmas
Morzine links directly to Avoriaz which should be pretty snowsure at Christmas.
Having also done a season there this is bollocks.
Yeah why not use it to see how much there is to do if you're there for a season. (link to my TR): http://snowheads.com/ski-forum/viewtopic.php?t=45488
I wouldn't recommend it though for the same reason I wouldn't recommend any of the other big French resorts: there is absolutely nothing for a non-skier to do other than drink overpriced beer. I'd suggest somewhere in Switzerland (expensive though, Lautterbrunnen is a good choice as would be Wengen (even more expensive)) or Austria. Don't be put off by Austrian resorts being lower, lower slopes mean you're skiing on grass which only needs a few cm of snow compared to the meters needed to hide rocks and fill the crevasses of the high French resorts. Moreover, the Eastern Alps tend to get more snow at that time of year.
been to austia 6 times and only had schnitzel once .
Trust me, you would have bigger problems finding permanent supply for your Schnitzel and grated carrot diet in St. Anton than avoiding them. And btw people that are after hard skiing don't really go to places like Mayrhofen or Kitzbuhel....
La rosière-la thuile. I prefered the italian side because I prefer the italians, and their food.
Utter llobocks! Stayed in a pension type place outside Ischgl and had lovely food there. Still yet to have a better wild boar steak. The germknoodle was a winner too.
Grated carrot...great for your night skiing vision ;O)
Most Austrian and Swiss resorts would fit the bill - you'll have to do your own searching; most are train accessible and 'higher' (no resort as high as swiss or france, but high enough) resorts are probably more snow reliable than French - check recent statistics but Xmas can be iffy all over. Food imho is far better in austria than france, and accomodation way better. We'll probably never ski france again - expensive and crowded, too many brits. Mind you swiss can be mega pricy but OK - what about Zermatt, probably best resort in europe. Mike
We did it a couple of years ago - you catch the train at 7:30 Friday evening and arrive at Bourg (or further up the valley, if you want) in time for a full day's skiing on the Saturday.
If its a small party or everyone is paying there own way, can I suggest paying the extra £15 quid or so a ticket for 1st class upgrade. Should you buy 1 beer and a sandwich with your normal ticket it equates to a similar price. Worth doing the sums rather than just skipping it.
Found out last year on a return trip when after missing a train due to snow and having to buy a new ticket to get home. The extra space and free beers coffees and food were most welcome.
Its a great way to travel to the 3v which ever class.
Anyone got a good site for TGV? I can't find any reaonable fares unless you wait till less than 3 months to travel, missing cheap flights.
Very difficult one, since Xmas is generally very crowded, very expensive, and dodgy re snow.
Crowds: Horrendous in France during school holidays.
Snow: very unreliable in the low resorts, such as Porte de Soleil and much of Austria - need to really watch the snow reports before committing anywhere there
Non-skiers: virtually eliminates the concrete, remote purpuse-built resorts such a Avoriaz
Expense: great everywhere, especially Switzerland. But worth weighing up the pros and cons carefully, because (as others have said) Zermatt, Wengen, etc are right up there in terms of real charm, great lift/transport systems and ability to get high quickly - and much the nicest for non-skiers
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