/ Which redpointing draws to get?
Had a quick look and it seems to be between the Petzl Spirits and the DMM Alphas, though I can't find anywhere you can get the 25cm spirit draws (just the tapes). I've used spirits before, but not the alphas, and not sure I'm so keen on the karabiners.
So, are these the two leaders or are there others you'd recommend? Has anyone used both, and do you have a preference?
I really like the alpha wiregates for trad but I'm not 100% convinced they are the easiest shape to clip the rope to. It feels like you need to reach an extra mile to get them onto a bolt.*
(*probably only 5mm)
Spirits are just about perfect for route working. I use 17cm for all my draws....longer seems a bit unecessary for sport.
used both, but not in extremisis.
Harrogate Wall has a couple of lines with alphas and i reckon they ar pretty darn good, v easy to clip (which is redpointing style - not placing the qd) petzl were nice a well but i was onsighting outside with them and not hanging on them
i dont climb hard enough to care really - not much use - sorry
I have alphas, they are fine imo. Not used spirits extensively, though I do have petal tapes ob mine.
Outdoor show bargin last year.
Spirits are great. Alphas are nice and smooth but the shape makes then awkward to strip from steep routes.
You canīt find a place to buy the 25cm Spirits because there are no 25cm Spirits. Petzl only produces 11 and 17cm.
I had exactly the same thought recently but I don't think DMM supply Shadows them with the same wide draws they supply with the Alphas.
You can buy 25cm petzl express extenders/dogbones - http://www.needlesports.com/Catalogue/Rock-Climbing-Equipment/Slings-Extenders/Extenders/Express-PET...
I use a mix of 12cm, 17cm and 25cm draws for sport climbing, as some of the vertical rock I climb on has features which could have the rope biner sitting on an edge if the wrong length is used.
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