/ Patagonia Mixed Guide Pants
Been looking at these : http://www.urbanrock.com/mens-mixed-guide-pants
Now the big question is - how well do they really cope with Scottish winter? Ot talks about weather on The Ben in that description but how do they really hold up to driving rain and sleet while ascending to the snow line? My decathlon soft shells failed miserablely in wind driven wet snow going up to Sneachda last year and ended up getting really wet and cold and had to bail off my route on the first pitch.
Any other suggestions? Want them to be bright. Crampon patches. Preferably a bib or braces but not essential.
I have an older version of those and a new jacket of the same fabric. Best money I've ever spent on outdoor clothing. Patagonia are snubbed at because it's expensive "designer" gear. But their gear and pedigree is good and if you can get a sale, go for it. The trousers are tough, pretty much waterproof and very comfortable and warm. I use them for icefalls, UK winter and have never had a problem.
That's not to say it won't eventually end up cold, wet and nasty in prolonged rain, but what doesn't? I'd expect them to outlast your Decathlon trews in the same conditions, at least.
Decent brightly coloured gear seems awkward to come by. You should get these and let us know how they work out ;-)
I'd very likely buy a pair if I didn't look like they would be 2" too short for me!
Anyone else have an idea of where to get larger ones in red?
My friend had these issued to him for ski patroling in canada and he loves them. I know the weather isn't that wet and miserable on the hill sthere compared to the Ben but he spent the whole day guiding back country touring in constant heavy snow and didn't get wet.
He uses them for ski touring, ice climbing, skiing you name it and he loves them. I think they got a slightly less tweaked version before they went on general sale and he reckons they are the best thing. Before that they used back country pants which he still uses and are also excellent.
He comes over to the UK to winter climb and walk every couple of years and he has used the backcountry pants with long johns and carries a pair of lightweight over torusers just in case he feels he is getting soaked but he has never said yet that he has beeen soaked.
His are slightly modified with an old bib and braces from another old pair of salopettes that he had professionally attached, which is an excellent idea.
Can anyone tell me what the orange Patagonia trousers which Matt Helliker wears on the Moonflower DVD? There is a picture in the following article.
Does anyone know if the super alpine bib is too much for scottish winter? I do like braces.
Why? What did you do to yours?
I nearly bought some and backed out of it after asking about them on here as others said they did rip theres. The knee and arse patches afterall are just a PU material thats not as hardcore as the re-enforced material on most jackets or indeed my existing waterproof trousers, lets face it these also get ripped pretty easy winter mountaineering in Scotland.
> I nearly bought some and backed out of it after asking about them on here as others said they did rip theres. The knee and arse patches afterall are just a PU material thats not as hardcore as the re-enforced material on most jackets or indeed my existing waterproof trousers, lets face it these also get ripped pretty easy winter mountaineering in Scotland.
For what it's worth, mine have done two or three seasons, I think, without much to show for it. They've not been very busy seasons, and more mixed and thrutchy routes might do them in, but so far I've been pleasantly surprised at how they've held up.
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