/ Touring boots and bindings
My thinking is that downhill skis and boots will give me better control than touring bindings. Also, when I tried using touring skis in Canada (9 years ago now, wow) I went through all sorts of agony with shin-bang, i.e. with blisters on the front of my shins from walking/ skinning in touring boots.
On the other hand, I'd love to be able to skin up hills instead of walk up them, and in really deep snow, presumably walking up them wouldn't actually be possible.
1. Do touring bindings give you good control for downhill skiing?
2. Are touring boots a frequent source of pain?
3. How much would touring boots + bindings + skins set me back?
>> 1. Do touring bindings give you good control for downhill skiing?
> 3. How much would touring boots + bindings + skins set me back?
2. Not if fitted correctly.
3. Not cheap but check out http://www.sport-conrad.com/ for some great deals.
I just asked the same sort of things. I am going to end up with using a blank pair of all mountain skis I have had for a while, looking at second hand fritschis on fleabay and I have a pair of Scarpa Denali XT boots.
Whole set up is looking at around £400, just have to by some brakes and ski poons and I'm ready.
The XT's have a walk mode which I knew nothing about but seeing the reviews and talking to a couple of Marine mates who have used them extensively, they are highly recommended for touring and good for downhill.
I think you just have to make sure the boots fit the bindings as I don't think Scarpa fit Dynafit, only fritschi and marker.
There seems to ne loads for sale both on here and fleabay so maybe get a decent deal?
Maestrales do all of that for me.
Think there was a thread about them recently. Also look at Marker Barons. I've got a set but haven't toured on them, only lift accessed stuff.
Other than that I did really like them the change from walk to ski mode was the most positive I've come across.
> Think there was a thread about them recently. Also look at Marker Barons. I've got a set but haven't toured on them, only lift accessed stuff.
Think it'd be the Dukes for me, being on the chunky side...
Just checked my Barons and they go up to DIN 13.
> Advice, please:
> 1. Do touring bindings give you good control for downhill skiing?
On the whole, yes, they give pretty good control. Some of the older Fritschi and Naxo bindings were noticably 'sloppy' but the modern bindings are much better. If you're a very good skier you might notice the difference and the increased stack height but most (me included) can't. Marker bindings (and potentially the new Guardian and Tyrolia bindings) will give you the most downhill feel. Dynafits are very stiff as well but come with certain caveats r.e. release and hucking off cliffs in them. Fritschi ones slightly less so but are a bit more user-friendly.
They shouldn't be if they fit well. It will also depend on the boot - a lighter touring boot like the Scarpa Maestrale will be comfier to walk and skin in than a freeride boot, like the Garmont Delerium but you compromise alpine performance.
Some people will walk and skin with their boots still partly or loosely buckled - I find this uncomfy so have to totally release all of the buckles - you just have to find what suits you. I must admit I am amazed at how easy it is to walk in the Meastrales, I think boots have come a long way in the last few years.
You're unlikely to find a pair of boots for much under £400 and it's worth spending a bit extra to get ones that really fit.
There are plenty of nice second-hand setups around online (try here, ebay, gumtree and Snowheads) and you can get a nice ski/binding/skin combo for under £500. Just be sure to check the binding size and where they're mounted in case you need to move the binding.
Buying everything new will probably cost nearer £1000 all-in but this totally depends on what you want and there are some great deals on Sport Conrad and most shops would do you a good deal if you buy multiple items from them.
That looks almost too good to be true - I've been a confirmed renter for years, but the idea of getting out in the hills on skis at home makes a touring-ish set up very attractive, and at that price it's a lot less than I was expecting to pay.
Thanks for all this info, folks. Very useful. (At the moment it makes me think "can't afford it", but that may change...)
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