/ Winter tour of Toubkal area??? Advice needed!
.... what are your recommendations for trekking and easy winter climbing in the area? Is it possible to do a longer tour taking in Toubkal in combination with other peaks in the area, staying at different spots each evening? Will I need a tent to do this or are there other villages/huts? And is it worth getting a guide, not for Toubkal, but maybe useful to organise accommodation as part of the round trip? Or will it just be a case of staying at the Mouflon hut and going out for day trips??
Thanks for any help you can offer!
We've not been to Toubkal area yet, but have been further south in the Jebel Sirwa region. In general terms, I would recommend getting a guide. The cost is relatively cheap and you get a lot of local knowledge and guides have their network of contacts for transport, accomodation etc.
Consider some of the trek providers too, eg. KE Adventure - most of their Morrocan trips are very good value for money (No connection, other than very satisfied client).
Morocco is a fascinating and friendly country, wellworthy of exploration.
> HTH Davey
Des Clark the author of the Cicerone Guide has lots of useful info on www.toubkalmountainguides.blogspot.com
This might be a daft question but are there many unclimbed winter lines in the High Atlas? Would it be feasible to go there on a two week trip (if the weather co-operated), find a valley base and climb easy (Scottish grade III) new routes?
Thanks for all the info folks, bought the cicerone guide and getting a wish list together, will probably stay around the Tachedirt and Mouflon huts and go from there, can't wait!
> This might be a daft question but are there many unclimbed winter lines in the High Atlas? Would it be feasible to go there on a two week trip (if the weather co-operated), find a valley base and climb easy (Scottish grade III) new routes?
Not daft, but not looking for new routes just areas that aren't heaving and a touch quieter! I am however hoping for good weather.....
Other than the tourist routes up Toubkal and Ras, we wouldn't see anyone all day, and this was over Xmas and New year.
Des' cicerone book is an excellent guide, and I thoroughly recommend the Toubkal SE and SW ridges (D- and AD+) especially if the snow is a bit rubbish (no neve whilst we were there). Take a pair of axes and some screws as there is plenty of grade 3/4 ice surrounding the refuges - including that cool waterall from the youtube video!
The mouflon is slightly more expensive than the CAF, but the CAF was heaving and the mouflon has a log fire! And take a good sleeping bag! We walked all of our kit (tent, stove, sleeping bags etc) from Imlil to the refuges - 7 hrs and 1400m ascent - it's bearable, but you can organise mules super easy in Imlil.
If you want any more info, just PM me with your questions. I recently put a blog post up if you want to see what it all looks like at the mo: http://alpinetom.blogspot.co.uk/
Get to Imlil and ask for lessain, and do not take the advice of Abdul who works at the refuge there!
We did a seven day trek with lessain beginning at Imlil and ending with an ascent of Toubkal and it was excellent!
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