/ best down jackets availible ??
I'm in the market for a new one as well...got a cheapy Karrimor one just now.
Looking at the Mountain Equipment Classic Lightline and Rab Summit.... peoples opinions/recommendations of both would be welcome....
Alpkit ones are worth a look, tend to get good reviews and a fair bit cheaper than the more mainstream brands. Also come in some rather nice, bright colours.
Depending on your requirements (how warm is 'warmer'?), have a look at PHD. I've owned 'big brand' down jackets, but I'm now a PHD convert. You can also get them made to size.
> Alpkit ones are worth a look
Would you recommend Alpkit Filo over the ME or Rab assuming they have similar fill/price?
"Best down jackets available" and 3 posts in we get Alpkit!
If you aren“t spending £500 then it isn“t "best" or getting near. My Filo is a goodish product at a good price with a poor zip and rates as worst of all the down jackets I“ve used.
I've got a Crux Plasma , its warm , waterproof , light not cheap but it does what it should very well . Sizing is a little on the small side though.
I had Mountain Equipment Classic Lightline nice & light , lovely & warm but no good in heavy rain or snow even after a reproof . The zip was poor as well .
Well, how often do OPs mean 'best' when they say 'best'? Mostly, they really just mean 'suggest a <thing> to me'.
And which particular 'best' are we talking about?
Best value for money?
Best absolute warmth?
Best pack size?
Best street cred?
With no other information on the OP's needs, preferences and priorities, people can only offer suggestions to think about.
I'd say the Filo is on a par with ME and Rab high street offerings.
I've got a Crux Plasma too, not a bad jacket, the owner experience marred only by sh1t customer service from Up and Under and DMM.
I had an me lightlne for around 8 years and I liked it BUT the neck wasn't high enough and the hood detached.
I now have a rab neutrino endurance. The neck is much higher, the outer more durable and the hood is attached. Its also warmer than the lightlne.
Totally, it's almost a meaningless question IMO. Best for what exactly? And then things like fit are personal, so makes recommending a 'best' anything even more pointless.
Oh and I also have an alpkit filo. I don't agree with captain p.
The fit is much worse. It's cut much looser. The Velcro on the sleeves is a bit stiff and annoying and again the neck isn't high enough if better than the me offering.
It's also, in my opinion, not as warm as either of the me and rab jackets mentioned. It's not as 'puffy'!
Have a new Alpkit Filo, black XL going if interested?
Won in a comp before Xmas, literally worn twice in the dry.
PM if interested.
Valandre, PHD, Feathered Friends, Crux. Where you planning on using it and what for?
Do you want a really warm, pretty warm or just fairly warm coat?
ie, rab microlite/mountain hardware ghostwhisperer, ME lightline/Rab summit or ME annapurna/phd hispar?
I say decide what weight you want, then what brand you can afford (IMHO: NF<<RAB<montane=ME<MH<CRUX<PhD) and bear in mind that a really nice synthetic with DWR might be a better choice than a light/med down depending on intended use.....
Seconded got a great bargain using go outdoors price match -10%, (£112.50) id say it was a warmer medium weight down, very light though
I've had a Mountain Equipment something or other, a Mountain Hardwear thingy, a Rab wotsit, and currently a Montane North Star. The Montane knocks the other three into a cocked hat. It's lighter, far less bulky, much better fitting, and waaay warmer. The hood is excellent, and it packs down to bugger all in its waterproof stuffsac (supplied).
The only slight niggle is that the pockets are too shallow, IMO.
If I lost mine, I'd go straight out and buy another.
Now on offer for silly money (£110) at Go Outdoors:
Another vote for Montane....I've got a Black Ice and it's well made, fits me perfectly and is VERY warm.
I'm more than happy with my ME Lightline.
I would recommend getting separate insulation and waterproof layers.
I then bought a Mountain Equipment Classic Lightline jacket it was warm enough not as warm as the hardware jacket always had a problem with the zip even when sobber so I sold it on, I have a rab micro which I will keep however I'm looking at a rab endurance just now tried one on in tiso instantly I said to myself "I want that one"
I toyed with a Canada Goose, but in the end couldn't justify the price.
these should keep you warm,you get what you pay for
Think were going for like £150 which is a snip, and a jacket that will last you a decade if you look after it...
> Valandre, PHD, Feathered Friends, Crux.
... Western Mountaineering, Montbell
However the construction quality looks a bit rubbish, lots of loose threads and second rate stitching, when you look closely and compare it to the RAB equivalent the quality for the more expensive jacket is obvious.
However !! I've been wearing it most days for the last 2 months and it has refused to fall apart like I expected ! At the moment it's mainly worn about town and for walking, I suspect when it eventually gets a beat up it will become my go to crag jacket that I will generally abuse and not really care about too much as I didn't spend silly money on it :)
Elsewhere on the site
WINTERFEST 2014 at Outside in Hathersage 6th and 7th December 2014 Outside's ever popular Winterfest event is back... Read more
Save on your Christmas shopping with great deals at the Epicentre. Spend £50 to get £5 off Spend £100... Read more
We recently reported that Pete Whittaker had flashed the 32-pitch big wall route Freerider 5.12d , during a... Read more
As a long-standing name in the UK rockshoe market, Scarpa have a loyal following and many much-loved models. As a fan... Read more
The British climbing scene is very exciting at the moment. It is quite clear that as a sport it is developing at a rapid rate and... Read more