/ Instant Coffee
I like to mix an instant sachet with a hot choc sachet and have a mocha in the morning to wake me up when I'm backpacking.
Instant coffee as you well know is disgusting.
If you can't do real coffee then it's tea bags.
I've not tried coffee bags.
Carte Noire is pretty good instant coffee, and a lot cheaper than starbucks. You can get it in sachets in France, not sure about England.
Lyons coffee bags don't cost much more, if you're prepared to wait for your coffee.
Japan has a thing called Blendy Stick. Two of the espresso ones nail it, or one plus a starbucks when times are good.
I too tried drips and presses. Too many issues when its cramped and cold.
I find Starbucks Via is a bit heavy, because it contains fine grounds.
For instant I prefer the normal Kenco stuff, so long as you accept that instant and proper coffee just aren't the same drink.
Too right and now you're talking at my level. I get so tired of coffee experts looking down their noses at me (this is not a reference to the above posters, but to a couple of sarcastic people at work) because I only drink instant coffee [sorry - rant over].
take some fresh ground coffee in some cling film and just add hot water. I have one, and it's pretty good.
spoken like a true addict. i agree totally.
theres coffee and theres caffeine. the good stuff you drink whilst retelling the tales that include drinking the instant - indeed, its been said that if youre poncing around with the fancy stuff youre not climbing hard enough.
its all about knowing the right tool for the job. in a single skin being hammered by gales, where every minute requires attention, i dont f*ck about with presses and other paraphenalia of the soft world - i need caffeine straight to the main vein to get on with things of more importance.
BUT, back in flat land where gravity is my friend and few things matter more than the quality of the grind, what its forced thru comes to the fore.
ther was a time i knelt before the mountain gods for perrmission to enter their abode.
now i beg their forgiveness for the crap i drink there, seeking to balance it with quality at valley level.
Thanks for your reply, I really like 2 of your comments:
>...its been said that if youre poncing around with the fancy stuff youre not climbing hard enough...
unfortunately i cannot claim either as mine. both are badly paraphrased, the first i think was leo houlding, the latter either aleister crowely or montgomerie.
but yes, coffee and climbing go together. like all junkies, i hesitate to climb with those who dont join in. coffee nazi? unashamedly!
as a quote i CAN remember, gullich one said 'you dont go for a coffee AFTER climbing, coffee is an integral part of climbing'.
I think they're vile. OTOH, black instant with sugar is fine.
I've tried everything and these are definitely the best solution. They are also individually foil wrapped which is perfect for outdoor use.
The only real downside is that, as with all fresh coffee, you need a decent amount (i.e. 2 bags) if you want a really large cup of strong coffee.
They get a bit expensive for basecamp use (twice the price of normal fresh coffee) but they are just perfect for going fast and light.
If you need a caffiene hit and no one else can help, maybe you can contact:
Although surely you can get hold of the excellent BlackBlack gum in Japan?
I've got numerous fancy coffee gadgets but I'm far too lazy to take them up any sort of hill.
I use these, but the poster above is correct - you need two bags for a single cup of coffee.
Now - anyone know about lightweight wine options? :-)
Or just eat chocolate covered coffee beans. A packet of those and I need peeling off the ceiling.
I just looked at the price - http://www.tauntonleisure.com/grower-039-s-cup/b248 - ouch!
Visiting the best coffee shop I've found in the SW isn't even that expensive!
Isn't that just what Port is?
Now - anyone know about lightweight wine options? :-)
A few years ago I found a 500ml carry handle bag of wine in an Asda that didn't actually taste second hand. I'd purchased it with fairly low expectations (it was an emergency backup for a beach party with a long walk in and I wanted to minimise the rubbish I'd have to carry back) but it wasn't awful.
Subsequent attempts at finding it haven't been as sucessful.
For lightweight wine simoly remove the box bit from a wine box..
worth notting that a Clif double espresso shot dissolved in hot water is passable.
x 2 even better.
the rolls royce breakfast is actually 1 x Clif macadamia bar + 1 x double espresso shot in a cup, add hot water, mash and consume.
agreed it is pricey, but one pack will provide 2 decent size mugs of very good coffee
They actually did a while ago - late 90s - Douwe Egberts made a kind of coffee essence type thing (possibly similar to the old Camp coffee essence, though I've never had that) which actually did taste quite good, but sales were low and it soon disappeared.
Posh coffee (camping with the girlfriend):
Functional coffee (3am alpine start):
Yeah, I think it was somewhat ahead of its time, unfortunately.
The growers cup is tasty, but a bitch to fill if its windy. Can't say I would bother unless I was car camping, and then I would just take stuff for a proper brew.
Nescafe Azera is very good instant. Almost like the real thing.
invented by the French mainly for the Marathon des Sables, i think - if you have a limited supply of liquid per day, why waste it drinking water?
However, it tastes like cak, even after a day's jogging in the desert :-(
Come on, lying in (prices not adjusted for inflation!) a £200 sleeping bag in a £400 tent wearing £500 of clothes with £1000 of boots, pointy things, ropes & gear decorating the floor, can you not justify spending £2.25 on a decent cup of coffee (& don't get me started on Nestle) given that the alarm has just woken you up at a time when most sensible people are returning from a club?
If I had my £1000 boots on, the butler would be making a brew for me.
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