In reply to due:
> (In reply to StuDoig)
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> Good stuff, I'll keep the Ogre in mind too. I tried the Kongur and just found it baggy but no longer in the body so that narrows it down further. With regards to 'technical' cuts, £370 Arcteryx Beta barely even reached my belt!
That's because, at Arcteryx prices, £370 only gets you 3/4 of a jacket.