/ cam's or nuts?

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coreybennett - on 02 Oct 2013
I've been stuck between the decision of cam's or nuts? I'm still trying to decide which piece of gear to buy, any advice?
The Norris - on 02 Oct 2013
In reply to coreybennett:

I dont think its a 'one or the other' decision. Nuts are generally the basis of your rack, cams are nice to have in addition, but not essential.

If you dont have anything at all, start with nuts, and add cams later.
andyathome - on 02 Oct 2013
In reply to coreybennett:
Nuts.

If you are talking about the first thing you buy.
cuppatea on 02 Oct 2013
In reply to coreybennett:

An interesting post! Nuts is the obvious answer, but a little too obvious.

Enthusiasm and a profile get you 4/10
highclimber - on 02 Oct 2013
In reply to coreybennett: Both or if you can't afford both, in the words of Mr T 'get some nutz'!
mattrm - on 02 Oct 2013
In reply to coreybennett:

Nuts. Simples. You can protect most routes with nuts only. Cams are nice, but I often don't place any on a route (I mostly climb limestone tho).
wilkie14c - on 02 Oct 2013
In reply to coreybennett:
most routes you'll ever climb were put up before cams. Nuts are a priority and the mainstay of your rack.
cyberpunk - on 02 Oct 2013
In reply to coreybennett: troll
cuppatea on 02 Oct 2013
In reply to cyberpunk:

I thought so too. A strange choice of subject for a troll post though, a double bluff?
Profile suggests onsight lead of an E1 5b..
jimjimjim on 02 Oct 2013
In reply to coreybennett: if in doubt leave it out '''''''''''''!!!!!
Trangia - on 02 Oct 2013
In reply to coreybennett:

Cam's what?
Blue Straggler - on 02 Oct 2013
In reply to coreybennett:

Quickdraws.
needvert on 02 Oct 2013
In reply to coreybennett:

If I could only have cams or nuts... I'd pick cams.

But a cam can cost and weigh as much as a set of nuts, so nuts definitely have the weight and cost advantage.
woody0606 on 02 Oct 2013
In reply to needvert:

> If I could only have cams or nuts... I'd pick cams.

What??? Really? On what basis?
needvert on 03 Oct 2013
In reply to coreybennett:

Parallel sided cracks.

Also quicker to place and clean, fits in with my aid ambitions.

I live in a different part of the world, around me is mostly coarse granite and sandstone (sometimes has more in common with sand than stone, but the weak stuff tends to be bolted).

If everyone here is saying nuts, then that's probably the best option. But...If your partners are already endowed with plenty of nuts, a set of cams may be rather welcome.

I don't think should be an or decision. I think both is best, but I imagine you're constrained by money in which case nuts give you more pro per dollar.

I find climbing gear easy to cost justify, if having a set of X is going to make me hitting the ground less likely, I get it. Medical bills quickly overtake the cost of climbing gear.
coreybennett - on 03 Oct 2013
In reply to cuppatea: i've been using my friends gear mostly for a long period of time with my rack, and i've decided to expand it with cams since im fine with nuts and yes it was an onsight E1 5b.
cuppatea on 03 Oct 2013
In reply to coreybennett:

Then I offer my apologies :) though the OP did seem a bit of a silly question...

Best answer might be "buy what you need to supplement you and your partner's rack based on the type of rock/routes you climb"

A set of basic Rocks is about the price of one cam give or take the cost of a loaf of bread

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