4CU: they're light, they're cheap, they work. Not everybody likes U-stem handling.
Dragons: state of the art things of beauty. Not everybody likes the thumb-loop-less handling compared to Camalots.
Consider Totems in the sizes for which they are available. I have Totems and then yellow & blue Dragons for the larger sizes.
I have a couple of 4cus, the wires can bend a bit if you fall onto them a lot on horizontal placements, still good cams.
By comparison the Dragon's are really good, prefer totems but you won't go wrong with dragons.
I have to say I think you're wrong. They are good cams, I find them easy to use and they have stopped me hitting the ground several times. I'll take your point on the bigger sizes being a bit clumsy (the small sizes are a bit wide too, I favour micro cams below 4cu size 1). They are cheap because DMM have long ago reached payback on developing the 4CUs and are now pushing their new flagship product, the Dragons.
Dragons in the larger sizes (3/4" upwards), something else below that (Totem cams, Demons, Master Cams (but not if climb on sea cliffs a lot) etc.) and something else in the tiny sizes (Zeroes, Totem Basic Cams, X4s).
CUs are naff, a pain to place, walk too easily and the stems on the outside make the heads too wide.
Another vote for Dragons in size Green Red Gold and Blue. Totem Basics red, yellow and green for small placements. Purchase in that order.
4CUs are clunky, horrid to handle, won't fit in small slots. Cheaper for a reason. Buy these and you'll spend the next few years wishing you'd coughed up the extra tenner per cam.
I chose Dragons over Camalots for the extendable sling. Carry each on a colour coded carabiner, Lose 4 draws (250-300g) off your rack.
So easy. Place (extend as required) and climb on...
The Totem Basics only go one size below the Totems
> The Totem Basics only go one size below the Totems
Perhaps I wasn't clear enough. By 'tiny sizes' I don't mean 'below whatever size the smallest Totem cam is', I mean 'about WC size 1/2 and below'.
What about DMM Demon Cams, instead of camalots or Dragons? How do they compare?
I have no doubt they are superbly made and work very well. I find it hard to see what niche they are aimed at though. People who don't like the double axle design but for some reason don't want to buy Helium Friends?
Ah, ok. I thought you meant "really tiny", which Mastercams, WC Zeros and X4s do go down to - FSVO "realy tiny" - whereas Totem Basics don't.
Can I just say... in Italy we have Ferrari, parma ham, full bodied reds... in the UK you have things like, amongst the others... the Dragon cams.
First time purchase? Go for Dragon. No doubt. ;-)
Nothing much wrong with 4cus if I were on a budget I'd sooner have a load of them than fewer of the more fashionable models.
I have a total mishmash of makes on my rack including 4cus tech friends, clog cams, hb quadcams . They all do the job they are designed for.
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