In reply to GrahamD:
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> Any particular application ? if you want really short, a maillon is the obvious thing to consider.
Maillon won't cut it, although it is for caving use where maillons are often used. Ahh, come to think on it, if I can find a short and wide (wide for a maillon that is) one, that might be worth a look........going to investigate now