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Planning on walking in the peaks at the end of the month, is there snow at the moment?

In reply to VPJB:

No.

In reply to Stuart (aka brt):

But there might be in two weeks time.

In reply to VPJB: This time of year there can be snow in the morning and nothing by lunchtime - As to what it'll be like in 3 weeks time - ask the 8 ball, it's as good as anything else. Kinder's not very high, a long way south and it's very, very early in the winter

In reply to VPJB:
Does it make a difference? You aren't going to need snowshoes, ice axes and crampons surely?

In reply to VPJB:

This will sort you out. Comprehensive answer to a common question

http://www.ukclimbing.com/forums/t.php?t=568862 (kinder???? in the winter climbing section.

In reply to VPJB: I'm just so sad that people are still calling The Peak the peaks

In reply to Al Evans: What's sad is that I've got so used to it that I didn't even notice 'till you pointed it out

In reply to Al Evans: I know I shouldn't rise to the bait, but....
The "Peak District" is comprised of peaks. I acknowledge the Dark Peak and the White Peak, hence peaks. Some claim there's a 3rd southern peak, but I remain to be convinced. So technically correct.
Signed
High Peak resident - so don't argue with me

In reply to Dave Perry: I need to accumulate days leading in the hills with summer ml so bringing a less experienced walker and so want to stay in remit.

In reply to Al Evans: Peak District would assume and area of peaks not one, I feel I should have used capitals though.

In reply to VPJB:


Al will explain, but Peak doesn't mean hill in this context.
This from wiki:

"Theories as to the derivation of the Peak District name include the idea that it came from the Pecsaetan or peaklanders, an Anglo-Saxon tribe who inhabited the central and northern parts of the area from the 6th century AD when it fell within the large Anglian kingdom of Mercia"

In reply to imkevinmc: But surely there is something wrong with using the word Peak in any context? There aren't any, even the highest is a flat plateau. I remember a tourist leaflet years ago that talked of soaring peaks! How did the area get its name I wonder?

In reply to toad:
>"Theories as to the derivation of the Peak District name include the idea that it came from the Pecsaetan or peaklanders, an Anglo-Saxon tribe who inhabited the central and northern parts"

So it should be The Peaks' then

In reply to rogersavery:


Surely the Peaks' peak?, unless you acknowledge two, in which case the Peaks' peaks.

In reply to VPJB:

I don't think walking in snow alone is going to be outside the remit of summer ML. It's when you go into territory which requires 'winter' skills stuff that is outside the remit.

In reply to rogersavery:


No, because it's a single tribe, so singular "Peak".

In reply to VPJB:

... and it's still not snowed

In reply to Stuart (aka brt):

A few little bits on Kinder..nothing much though just patches

In reply to pauldr:

You peaks guys make me want to cry, I lived and climbed there most of my life and it was always The Peak, it is really only since bouldering became a distinct arm of the sport of rock climbing that this abomination has crept into popular usage.

In reply to Al Evans:

This has nothing to do with bouldering an activity which has occurred in the area since before you started climbing.

In reply to Al Evans:

Haha. Sorry Al but that is a load of tripe.

In reply to VPJB:

Surely it's t'Peak, as in "going craggin' in t'Peak". It's an abbreviation of The Peak District.