a friend of a friend bought these from fishers, wore them for half a day in cham , took them in to Soul for advice and came out with a new pair of boots. the liners have not been molded. i immediately bought them off him, for my wife, convinced they would fit her. they don't. the only thing missing is the box. they really are "as new". please make sure they will fit before buying. if you are near to the lakes call round and try them on or er....make sure otherwise aye. price to include postage