/ Scottish Style Winter Climbing outside of Scotland?
I understand that you could basically do this anywhere if you wanted to, but is it similar? Sorry this might not be the best worded question but its worth a shot.
The Tatra mountains have a very similar style to Scotland.
Lots of trad turfy mixed , long walk ins and bad weather.
The Lofoten Islands.
The only non-Brits I've met who knew what a warthog was were Polish. Seems like a good place to start.
''Alpi Apaune'': a small range of mountain close to the Mediterranean sea and to the leaning tower of Pisa.
Not high (1900m), not at high-latitudes...but gifted by Iuppiter (being in Tuscany it is not Zeus ;-) ) with damp snow, rime and questionable limestone.
Locals adopt the same Scottish bold ethics...and warthogs are well-known...
please note...the most part of their wall is in the 200m-400m range...but the best wall (in winter conditions) is 650m high with the easiest route comparable to the Croz spur in winter conditions...not too bad for a Mediterranean wall :)))
exiting a 20-pitch north-wall (that offer you less than 30m of snow slope)
and seeing the sunset on the sea is priceless...
Don't be ridiculous.
I'll second Lofoten. Ice and vegetated mixed lines wherever you look.
Basically lots of places in Norway might work. Senja is pretty well known now - the hills there are low enough and close enough to the sea for there to be some freeze thaw, and the faces up around the northern fjords look amazing.
Val di Sea
Should get you started
The alps might be a safe bet...
Basically anywhere, where you have big enough rock faces worth climbing and cold enough conditions to warrant snow and such.
I met some slovenians who knew how to use one as well
But the alps lack what makes "Scottish Style "winter climbing distinctive - most importantly vegetation and perhaps less importantly a maritime climate resulting in snow-ice build up.
I've climbed quite a few lines in the Alps (and Pyrenees) that felt the same as what I've climbed this winter in Northern Corries, SCNL, Ben Eighe and Ben Nevis.
Didn't encounter that much vegetation in Scotland either.
The snow-ice might be a valid point, and for that I can't comment as it was mainly snow in Jan... too much snow in fact.
The whole southern fringe of the Alps is a bit lower that the frontier ridge and "enjoys" the interaction of milder air from the Med with plenty of plant life, wet snowfall, and freeze thaw. This applies for the entire Appennino range that runs from the Alps down to Sicilly with quite a few areas offering Scottish-like gully climbing even right down towards the toe of the Italian boot.
However, it is also true that climbing frozen vegetation is not what most continental climbers aspire to and it is considered rather esoteric, so you don't find many glossy guidebooks filled with hundreds of tiny 250 m vegetated winter routes. A few such guides have popped up over the years, showing what is possible. Hit this link for a few scans from the old Piccolo Dolomiti book (now in two big fat volumes with hundreds of routes, some climbable right now).
Indeed... Austrian alps are also lower...
And this stuff looks highly similar to what the VI upwards routes in Scotland looked like.
Thanks for the replys so far. The David Lama stuff looks brilliant!
Anyone know if the conditions are right at all over in British Columbia, or just any information on that area for winter climbing would be great. If possible near Vancouver.
The mountains around Monte Cavallo in Tuscany provide some turfy and icy mixed climbing in winter, according to an Italian gentleman I used to work with. Warthogs and bulldogs are the norm, very similar style to Scottish winter apparently.
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