/ What options are there for Gower and Ogmore guidebook ?

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GrahamD - on 18 Jun 2014
As in the title, what are the options for up to date guidebook coverage of the Gower and of Ogmore ? I'm sure my old SE Wales guide is in line for replacement.

Cheers
Tom F Harding on 18 Jun 2014
In reply to GrahamD:

Don't know about Ogmore but the new Gower Rock Select Guidebook is really good.

http://www.ukclimbing.com/gear/review.php?id=5153
whenry on 18 Jun 2014
In reply to GrahamD: Gower Rock - selective guide for the Gower - SWMC wiki for Ogmore - there's no more recent guide than the old SE Wales guide... which is definitely in need of replacement.
The Ivanator - on 18 Jun 2014
In reply to GrahamD:

There was a new selective Gower guide published last year
UKC review here:
http://www.ukclimbing.com/gear/review.php?id=5153
There is a downloadable Rockfax online miniguide to Gower Sport climbing, but I think the 2004 SWMC tome is the latest to the entire area (the one with the picture of a team on Osiris on the front). It is rather dated now, but there are quite a lot of updates and new routes on the SWMC wiki (and some topos, including Ogmore).
http://www.southwalesmountaineering.org.uk/wiki/South_Wales_Mountaineering_Club_-_Guidebook_Wiki
GrahamD - on 18 Jun 2014
In reply to all:

Many thanks. Is the selective guide available locally (to the Gower) and does it have anything in there that the old SE wales didn't ? (I'm talking the old style plastic covered book with the green spine old)

The Ogmore topos look good - a re-visit is long overdue.
andrewmcleod - on 18 Jun 2014
In reply to GrahamD:

The Rockfax Gower Sport guide is supposed to have a lot more sport than the Gower Rock guide.
mattrm - on 18 Jun 2014
In reply to GrahamD:

If you have the 2003 SWMC SE Wales and Gower guide, then all you're really gaining from getting the Gower Rock guide is photo topos and the recently developed sport climbs. If you don't want any of the sport routes, then the old guide and the topos on the SWMC guidebook will do the job. However Matt and Stu did an excellent job on the book and for the occasional visitor to the Gower it's well worth buying.

Al Rosier has done an excellent topo to Ogmore:

http://swmc.org.uk/g_book/images/5/5d/Popular_End_Topo_1.jpg

There is going to be a new Rockfax guide coming out to South Wales soon (as in drafts of it exist). So the jungle drums say.

As an aside, we're nearly out of guidebooks (a couple of 100 left) and no one in the club seems interested in doing a guidebook. If anyone out there wants to help producing a guide, then get in touch. We've got the money to print one. But really the wiki has replaced the guidebook and I can't see another SWMC produced guidebook ever coming out. There's a perception that guidebooks are something Rockfax/BMC do and only they can do it.
The Ivanator - on 18 Jun 2014
In reply to GrahamD:

Think I shared a belay with you at Shorn Cliff the other day (I came up Treason and perched in the tree). You should be able to pick up the Gower Rock guide at Dynamic Rock http://www.dynamicrock.co.uk/contact/
There are certainly some new Sports lines in the Gower select book, I also find the photo topos open up quite a few crags that seemed rather mysterious in the old SWMC guide, think there are some new trad and DWS lines too, but do not have the books in front of me to check. It does leave out quite a bit of stuff in the 2004 guide, though all the best crags are there.
GrahamD - on 18 Jun 2014
In reply to mattrm:

I think my guide might be older than 2003 !
GrahamD - on 18 Jun 2014
In reply to The Ivanator:

Hi, yes, I think we were around the same area having read about the accident on the other thread.

Lovely day out (apart from the obvious - we had gone by then though)
The Ivanator - on 18 Jun 2014
In reply to GrahamD:

Sounds like you weren't the bearded guy who climbed a "cocktail" of Laughing Cavaliers and Bitter Battle Tears and then brought up 2 girls (a blonde then a brunette) on your half ropes. The helicopter was buzzing the crag by then :-(
GrahamD - on 18 Jun 2014
In reply to The Ivanator:

I was the very white bearded bloke climbing with one dark haired lady. I think you were whizzing up a HS when we first arrived and we did some VS line to your left (all to the right of the ivy patch on the right of great central cave area.

A real bonus day for me - met up with an old friend at a party the previous day who had a rack but no climbing partner. Luckily I had an old pair of climbing wall shoes in the car.

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