In reply to balmybaldwin:
> On the plus side, its good to see obese people making a good effort to do something about it rather than queing in the chipshop. Perhaps a bit more realistic goals are in order early on
Spot on - and who cares if they are overweight. At least they're getting out and doing it. And lets face it it's harder than if you're 59 kilos.
I've had a few "incidents" on the Ventoux with people who, lets say, weren't the fittest, but the sense of achievement at the top makes it all worthwhile.
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