In reply to mh554:
Really dislike them on waterproofs - just another hole / failure point. I find I barely ever use them, and have a zip fail in the past leaving me with a gaping hole in my waterproof.
I do like them on my Buffalo though, but they are integral part of how you get the top on/off in that case.
ME Ogre is a good jacket if you don't want pit zips. Has a proper storm flap on the main zip as well rather than relying on water resistant zips. Hood is just big enough for a helmet (i.e. covers the head), but doesn't allow you to close it right down around the face.
Stu