The all-round comfy climbing shoe is something we don't talk about much. Performance is cool, performance shoes look cool, and people performing feats of amazing strength are cool to watch. But for most of us, bread and butter days out climbing are far off the cutting edge. Here's where the low-to-mid-grade shoe comes into its own.
In reply to UKC Gear: Either you've got a typo in there or qualifying rubber quality by 'sickness' is asking to give some people on here heart failure! Bro!
More seriously, how much has the shoe stretched during use, bearing in mind the 'old school' construction?
With regards to stretch, my pair started snug and bedded into comfy. With the main stretch being around the knuckles. Felt very similar to an old FiveTen Gambit with regard to stretch if that helps.
Disappointed to find they are soft! I really get on with the new unparallel shoes but would like a stiff-ish comfy all day trad shoe, no a soft floppy one that my toes/feet will get tired in.