Un pobre infeliz*** 4c

Rockfax Description
18m. The lovely open wall and breaks. © ROCKFAX

Ticklists: ROCKFAX El Chorro: Top 50.

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potnoodle13 - Lead O/S - 21/May/15 with beagle-ears

beagle-ears - 2nd - 21/May/15 with potnoodle13

pulseroom - Lead O/S - 15/Apr/15 with Alan Sanderson

The ridiculous undergrading is still there in the latest edition of the local guide. I couldn't do the crux, so detoured onto the adjacent 6a instead for a couple of bolts. At least the scary traverse back left prepared me slightly for the truly terrifying traverse at the top to reach the lower-off! Might be a good route but I was too far out of my comfort zone to tell. 6a surely?
Simon Caldwell - Lead O/S - 15/Apr/15 with Carmen

Jamie Brown - Lead O/S - 15/Apr/15 with Dave D

Hidden - 2nd O/S - 15/Apr/15

The top is ridiculous, you just cant get to the chains. Bailed from the route on the right.
bobstones - Lead - 13/Apr/15 with Sophie Gibbens

Very hard climb. Undergraded.
Sameer - Lead O/S - 04/Apr/15 with Bex

clarendon - Lead - 02/Apr/15 with Tris

Topsy Turvy - 2nd - 02/Apr/15 with Mike P

The anchor is rather unfairly positioned. Not a route for a new climber.
mariannekhoo - Lead O/S - 24/Feb/15 with Robert Dufton

rd20 - Lead O/S - 24/Feb/15 with Marianne K

philhaigh - Lead O/S - 03/Jan/15 with Natalie Haigh

bridget143 - TR β - 29/Dec/14 with Simen

5+ at least, lower off gone, retreated from mallion
Conor1 - Lead β - 06/Dec/14 with Karl Connolly

Hidden - 2nd dnf - 18/Nov/14

Insanely undergraded, 5+ in local guide but must be harder. The traverse to the lower off is sketchy.
Matt Smith - Lead O/S - 18/Nov/14 with Zoe Taylor

wyzfen - Lead O/S - 17/Nov/14

Hidden - 2nd O/S - 08/Oct/14

D Tempest - Lead - 28/Sep/14 with Paul

rfdl100 - Lead - 17/May/14 with Nicole

Little B - Lead O/S - 19/Apr/14 with Isaac, Jane

ASchwirtz - Lead O/S - 15/Apr/14 with Claire Duffield

Hidden - Lead dnf - 15/Apr/14

Puma - Lead - 01/Apr/14

1st route of holiday and not 4+ !
lithos - Lead - 01/Apr/14 with Puma, Pete Bradshaw

Hidden - Lead - 13/Mar/14

Hidden - Lead - 10/Mar/14

Rich Malcolm - Lead O/S - 03/Mar/14 with Darren Pallett

Hidden - Lead O/S - 22/Feb/14

buddha1369 - Lead O/S - 27/Dec/13

Hidden - Lead dog - 16/Dec/13

Climbster - Lead O/S - 27/Nov/13 with Vick

Hard crux even for a 5+. Lowered from a maillon that someone had left a couple of bolts before the top.
jayyaj - Lead dnf - 23/Nov/13 with Alex Herbert

Hidden - Lead dnf - 17/Nov/13

felt stiff for 4+ even if I had twisted my knee the day before. getting to the shared lower off with del osillo was interesting and its nowhere near where the topo show it??
SGD - Lead - 05/Oct/13 with Vicky Holmes

Dan818 - Lead dog - 25/Jul/13 with Joanne scott

JonnyW - Lead O/S - 29/Mar/13 with Neil Burgess

beakerburgess - Lead O/S - 29/Mar/13 with Zeanne Thomas, Andrew Clow, Jonny Webb

Hidden - Lead O/S - 29/Mar/13

Excellent! Some very good delicate technical moves
Cheese Monkey - Lead O/S - 28/Mar/13 with Vienna

Not onsight as Chris did it first
cem - Lead β - 18/Mar/13 with Chris Smith

CrispsSmiths - 2nd - 18/Mar/13 with cem

Hidden - Lead O/S - 13/Mar/13

riff156 - Lead O/S - 15/Feb/13 with Wayne Young

Hidden - Lead O/S - 05/Jan/13

lecko - Lead O/S - Jan/13

Classic! The best 4+ in El Chorrow
Dave Pen - Lead - 2013

mol - Lead - 24/Dec/12 with Ken, Jesse

Hidden - Lead O/S - 01/Dec/12

Hidden - Lead dog - 01/Dec/12

Hidden - Lead - 17/Nov/12

Hidden - Lead - 10/Nov/12

Vincej - 2nd - 10/Nov/12 with Nevil

escostar - Lead RP - 31/Oct/12

Hidden - 2nd β - 24/Oct/12

Massive sandbag!! More like 6a, route not where rockfax depicts in the guide, lower off situated lower than expected. Necessitates very difficult traverse! Be warned...
Tala M - Lead O/S - 21/Oct/12 with Matt Thomas

matthomas79 - Lead O/S - 21/Oct/12 with Tala M

ChrisB.19 - TR - 21/Oct/12 with Allan

As many have stated this is more like 5+ and the latest RockFax update acknowledges this. However, even taking this into account, the ridiculous position of the lower off should prevent this from being a top 50 route - worth 2 stars maximum.
stonemikey - Lead - 13/Oct/12 with John Horton

This is not a 4+, more like a 5+. Went off route at the top (on a sport climb!), expecting the lower off to be at the obvious platform above the last bolt. Had to downclimb and do the delicate traverse left to the chain - a real sting in the tail!
runwildjohn - Lead - 13/Oct/12 with Naomi Fraser, Mike Silver

Sannan75 - Lead O/S - 31/Jul/12 with Timea Sloboda

cactus111 - Lead O/S - 31/Jul/12

samfayers - Lead O/S - 09/Apr/12 with sars

Hidden - Lead - 21/Mar/12

Very tricky - had to pull on a quickdraw at one stage. Horrible step up to lower off too.
johnmctighe - Lead O/S - 19/Mar/12 with Austin

Hidden - Lead O/S - 06/Mar/12

Hidden - Lead dog - 06/Mar/12

Hidden - Lead - Feb/12

will909 - Lead O/S - Feb/12

Hidden - Lead O/S - 26/Jan/12

Rich Clague - 02/Jan/12

Kevster - Lead O/S - 27/Dec/11

RachelEm - 2nd - 27/Dec/11

callans - Lead β - 18/Dec/11 with El Chorro Matt

Tesni - TR O/S - 14/Dec/11

mwatson - Lead O/S - Dec/11

Adrian Daniels - Lead - 26/Nov/11 with Steve Webster

lottiec - 21/Nov/11 with Mikey P

Hidden - Lead O/S - 21/Nov/11

paul horabin - Lead O/S - 27/Oct/11

fi15 - TR - 27/Oct/11

david0811 - Lead dog - 16/Oct/11 with Will, Dave Riley

no way 4+, the crux is around 6a+ and it looks like some crucial holds have snapped off....
MrRiley - Lead dnf - 16/Oct/11 with Will Owen

hellboundblr - Lead - 16/Oct/11 with John Bayliss

1st route of the hol & we pick a top 50 4+ that turns out to be undergraded & with a lower-off 2m to the left of where you finish that needs a 6a traverse & move to clip. Also dashed lines are missplaced on RockFax guide - starts left of the bush where 13 is shown. The 6a branch off is much better quality.
john_ni - Lead O/S - 16/Oct/11 with Ian Wilkinson

Frostie - Lead O/S - 11/Oct/11 with Lewis, Cam

Lewis Stewart - Lead O/S - 11/Oct/11 with Frosty, Cameron

Hidden - Lead O/S - 11/Oct/11

waynem1985 - Lead O/S - 14/Sep/11

igneouscarl - Lead - 27/Apr/11 with Robert Jones

pete1185 - Lead - 25/Apr/11

not particularly great, and climbing doesn't really follow the bolts.
JamieSparkes - Lead O/S - 18/Apr/11 with Claire Holland

llamaglama - 2nd - 18/Apr/11 with Jam

richw2k2 - Lead - 27/Mar/11 with Monika

Crux section deserves 5+.
Andy Clarke - Lead O/S - 27/Mar/11 with Dale

v.polished, great climb, but hard for grade. should be 5+. not a top 50 though
mark4344 - Lead O/S - 20/Mar/11 with Dale Knox

5+ in rockfax update bou write
Dale - Lead O/S - Mar/11 with Andy

Hidden - Lead - 26/Feb/11

monika paprzycka - 2nd - 26/Feb/11 with Jeremy Axford

Hidden - Lead O/S - 2011

Different Steve - Lead O/S - 23/Dec/10 with Clare

Hidden - Lead O/S - 07/Dec/10

This is not in any way a 4+. I dogged my way to the last bolt before the lower off then backed out, not wanting an awkward fall on a slab. I have no idea why the guidebook lists this as a 4+ - it's dangerously misleading. I don't think it's even a 5+. Those giving it 6a are probably closer to the mark. Beginners avoid!
sarahlizzy - Lead dnf - 28/Nov/10 with Syv

goi.ashmore - Lead O/S - 11/Nov/10 with Roy Thomas

Stuart Wildman - Lead O/S - 07/Nov/10 with Seema

Couldn't do the final move. It was within my ability but too tired. Also the route is not as it appears in the guide!
philgeorge999 - Lead dnf - 25/Oct/10 with ihsan

RalphC - Lead - 05/Oct/10 with Caroline

Hidden - Lead O/S - 30/Mar/10

A sandbag! Has a 6a move
Andy Chubb - Lead - 19/Mar/10 with Guy Hustinx

Hidden - Lead O/S - 14/Mar/10

Very much not a good warm up climb!
Dizz - Lead dog - 04/Mar/10 with Ed

In the soaking rain. Glad I had a few grades in hand!
Dave Foster - Lead O/S - Mar/10 with Alex

Top 50 my left toe!!
Nature_Boy12689 - Lead O/S - 22/Jan/10 with Layla Peploe

auld al - Lead - 2010

james chesmer - Lead O/S - 2010

Ridiculously graded. Was more like 6a than 4+
CathS - Lead dnf - 29/Dec/09 with Paul Lucas

Much harder than 4+
lucasp - Lead dog - 29/Dec/09 with Dave C (Lmc)

Hidden - Lead dnf - 17/Dec/09

Seemed much harder than the grade
katiep - Lead O/S - 15/Dec/09 with Jit

Ed Westwood - Lead O/S - 14/Dec/09 with davis.pete

Hidden - 2nd dnf - 14/Dec/09

Hidden - Lead O/S - 14/Dec/09

lovely but harder than the grade in the book - its an F5. Did an fantastic athletic move here where I put my foot in a break, pulled up with my left hand on a crimp whilst mantling with my right and then once I was at right arm extension, reached up for next left hold.
RachaelB - 2nd O/S - 07/Dec/09 with jon youles

Hidden - Lead O/S - Dec/09

Luke Gilbert - Lead - Nov/09 with Sara Gilbert, Tom McCulloch

Simon Rackley - Lead O/S - Nov/09 with stan hodson

timcedwards - 2nd - Nov/09 with Andrew Edwards

joe king - Lead O/S - 27/Oct/09

Hidden - Lead O/S - 21/Oct/09

Hidden - Lead - Oct/09

Hidden - 2nd dnf - 01/May/09

easily 5+. bad bolting and lower off. but good climbing
alexrafferty1986 - 2nd O/S - 29/Apr/09 with Zoomer

Very, very undergraded, long moves between breaks. Really poorly thought out lower off position and incorrectly marked in the new guidebook. Avoid.
Zoomer - Lead - 29/Apr/09 with Alex Rafferty

Graham Iles - Lead O/S - 11/Apr/09 with Pete Robinson, Neil Cooper

Hidden - Lead O/S - 26/Mar/09

Giles1 - Lead O/S - 11/Mar/09

woodenwealth - 2nd - Mar/09 with Simon

steve prior - Lead - Feb/09 with Roz C

Ken Applegate - Lead O/S - 18/Jan/09 with Hannah Evans

Chris the Tall - Lead β - 11/Jan/09 with Dave Coley

Joke grade - at least a 5+
wheelo - Lead - 27/Dec/08 with cas

Hidden - Lead O/S - 27/Dec/08

Hidden - Lead O/S - 16/Dec/08

timjones - Lead - 27/Oct/08

Hidden - Lead - 08/Dec/01

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Total votes cast 73
hard 5a11 of 43
5a3 of 43
easy 5a28 of 43
hard 4c0 of 43
4c1 of 43
easy 4c0 of 43
hard 4a0 of 43
4a0 of 43
easy 4a0 of 43
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