Doctor's Dilemma IV 4
[Dave, Paul and John on Doctors, 4 kb]180m, 4 pitches. Takes the line up the face to the right of central gully.

Photo: Dave, Paul and John on Doctors © markfairbank
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This climb is in 52 logbooks, and on 2 wishlists.

Busby - AltLd - 07/Feb/15

Hidden - 2nd - 04/Feb/15

ADConway - 2nd O/S - 04/Feb/15 with David Nichols

Hidden - 24/Jan/15

Soloed up to the first real difficulties then I led our first pitch before Daf led to the top. Great wee route and better than Quartzvein Scoop.
wheelsucker - AltLd - 12/Apr/13 with Daf Morris

DNF. about 2/3rds of the way up and decided to back off as conditions were becoming questionable. abalakov thread and tat round an icicle got us safely down.
nicjbuk - AltLd dnf - 12/Apr/13 with paul freeman

Hidden - AltLd - 12/Apr/13

1st route of the afternoon / evening!! Well worth it! Good value for the grade, a few nice moves and some sustained climbing. Ice was still in pretty good nick - not sure how long that will last though!!!
010paw - AltLd - 10/Apr/13 with Andy Watt

Hidden - AltLd - 10/Apr/13

Hidden - Lead - 07/Apr/13

morsy - AltLd - 07/Apr/13 with gerhard mors

morsg - AltLd - 07/Apr/13 with Stephan Mors

3 pitches, led p2.
Mike-W-99 - AltLd O/S - 06/Apr/13 with Fiona

Led 1 and 3. Very nice route.
Fiona Reid - AltLd O/S - 06/Apr/13 with Mike

Hidden - AltLd O/S - 05/Apr/13

Under-rated. Every bit as good as Quartzvein and a bit harder.
Jamie B - Lead - 04/Apr/13 with Jens Mieth

johannes - AltLd O/S - 30/Mar/13

Led first pitch. Second pitch mushy at top.
Nille - AltLd O/S - 30/Mar/13 with johannes

Victoria's first ever ice climb, well done. Stunning day, great conditions.
bcfan - 29/Mar/13

Mice route although thin ice in places. avalanche potential at the top!
Will Manners - Lead - 21/Mar/13 with Andrew Bilous

Pete23 - AltLd - 26/Feb/13 with Gregor

gregor - 26/Feb/13

Hidden - AltLd O/S - 23/Feb/13

Hidden - AltLd - 23/Feb/13

1st pitch a bit thin with snow covered ice which was not great. Top pitch great ice. The hill was absolutely mobbed today with 9 folk in West Gully when we looked in!!
Yourlead - 2nd - 24/Jan/13 with Graham Penny

Hidden - Solo O/S - 13/Mar/10

jamesh - 2nd - 08/Mar/10 with Jim Unwin

dj_brigham05 - AltLd O/S - 07/Mar/10 with Chris Thain

Phil Jennings - AltLd O/S - 06/Mar/10 with Andy Latham

AndyL - AltLd O/S - 06/Mar/10 with Phil Jennings

A bit melty, but that made the placements more secure. Nothing too taxing, but good, quick fun in a nice position.
andybuckley - AltLd - 06/Mar/10 with Tom Whipple

two good long pitches
IceBun - AltLd - 06/Mar/10 with Sandy Simpson

MonkeyDawson - AltLd - 06/Mar/10 with Jamie, Bob Foster

Good route with some deceptively steep sections
markfairbank - AltLd O/S - 06/Mar/10 with Ian Moore

Found the route in good condition following a tip off in the pub. Paul & myself alt lead while John battled with his 1st grade IV!
Mountain Llama - AltLd - 06/Mar/10 with Paul & John B

Hidden - 2nd dog - 06/Mar/10

Johann - AltLd O/S - 05/Mar/10 with Alex Wheeldon, Scott Kirkhope

It's melting but still all there.
UndercoverElephant - Lead O/S - 05/Mar/10

jamiefoxen - AltLd O/S - 05/Mar/10 with Graham Dawson, bob foster

Guy in front took a massive whipper from practically the top of the route, hope they were ok. We followed the blood
Lawrie Brand - AltLd O/S - 03/Mar/10 with Paul Calton

Hidden - 03/Mar/10

alan barnes - AltLd - 02/Mar/10 with chris hig

Hidden - AltLd - 02/Mar/10

Dave Searle - Lead - Mar/10 with gav

searla - AltLd - 28/Feb/10 with Sarp

Hidden - AltLd O/S - 22/Feb/10

Andy Moles - AltLd O/S - 22/Feb/10 with Adam, Ferdia

hand slipped out of mitten whilst manteling on 2nd pitch! no problems second time
ferdia - 2nd - 22/Feb/10 with Adam Russell, Andy

phil64 - Solo - Feb/10

Hidden - AltLd O/S - 02/Jan/10

adw07 - AltLd O/S - 07/Feb/09 with Andy Main

Good route with some variable ice. Fun pitch out of the cave and through the ice chandler! Whole route was made harder by having my monos on the wrong feet. Doh!
andymoin - AltLd O/S - 07/Feb/09 with Warren

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