Ledge Route*** 2
[Fresh snow, Ledge route, April 2008., 1 kb]450m. "An excelent scramble throughmagnificent scenery. Start up Number Five Gully, and break out right on the first ledgefrom the foot of the gully proper. Follow this untill it becomes impracticle, then take a shallow gully that leads up and slightly left to a higher ledge.Follow the higher ledge to the right passing a large pinnacle block to reach the easy angled crestof the Great Buttress of Carn Deargby a large cairn. Follow the crest of the butress to the north-west summit of Carn Dearg." Nisbit, A. et al (2005)Scottish Rock Climbs, Leicester; Scottish Mountaineering Club
J.S. Napier, R.G. Napier & E.W. Green 09/Jun/1895

Ticklists: Top ridge scrambles of Britain, Scotland's Mountain Ridges by Dan Bailey, Scottish 3 and 4 star multi-pitch routes.

Photo: Fresh snow, Ledge route, April 2008. © Joak
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Lead a bunch of new club members up the route, predictably wet and seeping in places but absolutely magnificent none the less. Fantastic day out!
SkylarLobdell - 11/Oct/14

PoorPaddy - Solo - Oct/14

An atmospheric day in the rain !
luckyjim - AltLd - 23/Sep/14 with E Parton

jonathandavey - Solo - 17/Sep/14

good banter with some good folks! follow the trail really..
Nath93 - Solo - 11/Sep/14

Hidden - Solo O/S - 10/Sep/14

runwildjohn - Solo - 26/Aug/14

boyson - Solo O/S - 24/Aug/14

in Descent
Samuel Wainwright - Solo - 24/Jul/14 with Rafe Osborne

Nigel Bond - Solo - 23/Jul/14 with Colin Hutton

Hidden - Solo O/S - 20/Jul/14

Mackinclimb - Solo - 19/Jul/14

westleas - Jul/14

Descended
djdavies - 2nd - 26/Jun/14

Down climb
Graham Westbrook - Solo - 15/Jun/14

simondunf - Jun/14

glaramara - Lead - Jun/14

May 2014. Warm, dry, still. Just me. Some snow in No. 5 gully. Initial slab wet & greasy.
Flinticus - Solo - 31/May/14

Hidden - 30/May/14

Initial slab on exit to Number 5 Gully awash with water and black slime, not worth the risk soloing.
atthedropofahat - Solo dnf - 10/May/14

Andy Moles - Solo - 07/May/14

Adamski1986 - Solo rpt - 19/Apr/14

cpforbes - Solo O/S - 19/Apr/14

Had hoped it would be in winter nick, but it wasn't, so we carried rope and gear all day for nothing. Good training.
Simon Caldwell - Solo rpt - 18/Apr/14 with YAC, Carmen

bit of snow to start, then summer conditions
lithos - 18/Apr/14 with YAC

Had hoped for winter conditions but virtually no snow after no. 5 gully. Still a great scramble though.
Jamie Brown - Solo - 18/Apr/14 with YAC

main ridge itself mostly bare and summery
pebbles - Solo - 18/Apr/14 with anthony semonella, jamie, carmen, donal, simon c, rob

Hidden - Solo - 18/Apr/14

ash longreach - Solo - Apr/14 with Dennis, John

Hidden - AltLd O/S - 01/Mar/14

Very banked with soft snow. Made bottom section very easy but ridge harder, as very narrow snow slopes instead of flat platform. Milly was a complete novice to winter climbing so had to pitch and lead entire route-lost count after 12 pitches!
stevelismore - Lead O/S - 24/Feb/14 with Milly PCC

2010_graham - Solo O/S - 21/Jan/14 with Brendan B

First grade 2 winter
coachmacca - 2nd - 10/Jan/14

Hidden - 2014

Lots of hard snow in No. 5, ok kicking steps. Went too far along the first ledge, and went up some wet, lose ground for a few short pitches before finding the upper ledge which was more of a path. Finished up 70m of steep hard snow as there was no way round - just ok kicking steps but thought we might have to turn round, in mid June!!!
ablackett - Lead - 2014 with Fran

kagreen - 2014

Allanfairfechan - 2014

rob1 - 2014

victorhearnyeates - Solo - 23/Nov/13

Hidden - Solo O/S - 23/Nov/13

luckyjim - Solo - 03/Nov/13

DundeeDave - Lead - 21/Sep/13 with Janis, Markus, Jenny Hare

Jennie H - 2nd - 21/Sep/13 with janis Russell, markus milne, David

A soggy trip in the mist
markusj - Solo O/S - 21/Sep/13 with DundeeDave, Jenny Hare, Janis Russell

Moved together doing the 5 ridges in a day twice down Coire Leis once done the Ledge Route up NE, OR, TR and CR great day on the hill
easers - AltLd - 06/Sep/13 with Doug

in decent
Dougbart - 06/Sep/13 with Iain

Hidden - Sep/13

in decent
easers - Solo - 28/Aug/13

stevetheleg - AltLd O/S - 11/Aug/13 with Hal Roberts

Hidden - AltLd O/S - 11/Aug/13

Like a few others below I went too far along the traverse, ended up in a massively exposed position, pretty awesome but didn't fell like a Grade 1 Scramble at that point! Went up a fairly steep corner on looseish rock, popped out on ridge then walk to top. Was exciting!
Martin Davies - Solo O/S - 31/Jul/13

oren02 - 20/Jul/13

Decended as one of five classic ridges in a day.
machars - 13/Jul/13 with Bjorn Verduijn

Hidden - Lead O/S - 13/Jul/13

Roped at times, practising scrambling rope work
BStar - Solo - 01/Jul/13 with Jamie B, Rachael

dalgleish33 - Lead - 01/Jul/13

Rachael88 - AltLd - 01/Jul/13 with Adam

Descent after Castle Ridge and before Tower Ridge. Just about the best day ever.
nick everett - Solo - Jul/13

In descent.
Robertgiddy - Solo - 09/Jun/13

alan.rodger - Solo - 08/Jun/13 with jonathan harris

punj - Solo - 08/Jun/13

Hidden - Solo - 07/Jun/13

ClemmieMitchell - 2nd - Jun/13

Cludum Mann - AltLd - 23/Feb/13 with awaddie

gripped01 - AltLd - 09/Feb/13 with Rob Patchett, Rimon Than

Hidden - 20/Jan/13

Tom Redmond - Lead O/S - 17/Jan/13 with dave bowler

thomb - AltLd - 14/Jan/13 with Jess

Darkskys - 2013

Hidden - 2013

sgl0jd - 2013

Laura Hamlet - 2013

Timothy Miller - Lead O/S - 2013

lou_rankine - Solo - 2013

Hidden - 2013

Hidden - 2013

wykealpha - 2013

Hidden - Solo O/S - 01/Dec/12

Very wet so roped up across the leaning slabs.
Finn Curry - Lead - 14/Nov/12 with Tom Williams

Descent.
Captain Solo - Solo rpt - 23/Sep/12

Seems I got a bit lost on this one. Kept following the first big ledge till it became a small ledge, then a break, then a crack for the feet. After quite a lot of traversing (including one difficult little step with a lot of air below me) I found myself looking at an acceptable way up and ended up climbing maybe 50m of loose Vdiff ground that obviously doesn't see many hands. After this it eased off to the easy angled ridge above. Hope I can go back and do the actual route, ideally in winter.
Roberttaylor - Solo O/S - 09/Sep/12

In descent
Lawrie Brand - Solo O/S - 26/Aug/12 with Sarah Laing

Storm Hunter - Solo O/S - 26/Aug/12

First Scramble in Scotland. clear ascent, cloud on the summit. Amazing Day!!
Mike505 - Solo - 21/Aug/12

In descent
Alastair MacSween - Solo - 11/Aug/12

We were going to do Tower Ridge but rain showers put me off the idea.
captain_reindeer - Solo - 04/Aug/12 with Billy Clark, Jelena

Hidden - Aug/12

Cloud down to 650 m & soaked to the bone!
Tom Vivian - 23/Jul/12 with Paul Barlow

Hidden - Solo rpt - 16/Jul/12

Went beyond first ledge by continuing up No 5 Gully as it was wet and greasy, though gully wasn't any easier and loose instead.
Hyperopic - Solo O/S - 07/Jul/12 with Sarah

henry.jeffreys - Solo O/S - 06/Jul/12 with Will Foxall

Hidden - Solo - 24/Jun/12

SuperMike64 - Solo - 14/Jun/12

My interpetation of going along a ledge until you can go no further is different to the routes. Quite a sporting step across a gap.
freemanTom (Guildford MC) - Solo - 03/Jun/12 with Andy Night

Good weather. Clear views.
captain_reindeer - Solo - 02/Apr/12 with Jelena

Hidden - 13/Mar/12

thomb - 28/Feb/12

Moved together
jasoncash - Solo - 15/Feb/12 with Andy Cash

Hidden - Lead O/S - 12/Feb/12

chris smith - Lead O/S - 03/Feb/12

johnrich - 02/Feb/12

flett53 - 2nd - Feb/12

Hidden - Solo - Feb/12

dakidunn - Lead O/S - 28/Jan/12

JYates - Solo - 28/Jan/12

saffy - 2nd - 08/Jan/12

Hidden - 2012

Hidden - 2012

robbiek - 2012

Hidden - 2012

chapmand - 2012

Hidden - 2012

Wesley Orvis - 2012

jhs3jtmh - 2012

Narked4fun - 2012

Hidden - 2012

Hidden - 2012

Stone Idol - 2012

Hidden - 2012

Hidden - 2012

Hidden - 2012

cpforbes - Solo O/S - 2012

JamesRoddie - Solo - 2012

Hidden - 06/Nov/11

BobbyMotherwell - Solo O/S - Oct/11

Foxache - Solo O/S - 27/Aug/11

did less of a ledge route and more of a nasty slimey gully route
danceswithcats - Aug/11

In descent
Alastair MacSween - Solo - 26/Jul/11

Ran to the top and over cmd and anoch mor and beg
easers - Solo - 24/Jul/11

Redjesta - Solo O/S - 09/Jul/11 with Peter Entwistle, Barbara Duncan

Climbed this in poor conditions but still found it enjoyable. The climbing improves with height.
Sutty22 - Solo O/S - 17/Jun/11

first summer ascent.wet and windy,up and down.
tomshanti - Solo rpt - 17/Jun/11

Gazlynn - 12/Jun/11

In descent
Elsier - Solo O/S - 11/Jun/11 with Katy V, Amy

In descent
Alastair MacSween - Solo - 04/Jun/11 with Graham Drinkwater

Hidden - Solo - 16/May/11

Hidden - 06/May/11

Hidden - Solo - 30/Apr/11

Hidden - Solo - 23/Apr/11

Pete Barker - Solo O/S - 10/Apr/11 with Frenchman, Lizzie

philgriffiths - 09/Apr/11 with Gregor Scott, Fabian Seymour, Roger Sutton, Rich Payne

Wesley Orvis - Solo - 02/Apr/11

tim91 - AltLd - 22/Mar/11

Hidden - 2nd - 19/Mar/11

SeánM - 18/Mar/11

In descent
liamo333 - Solo - 17/Mar/11 with colenn

Hidden - AltLd rpt - 16/Mar/11

Hidden - 01/Mar/11

Moved together with alternate leads - Alpine stylee. A stunning February day with near perfect conditions.
Tony the Blade - AltLd O/S - 28/Feb/11 with Flat Eric

Amazing conditions!
BaddaBing - 28/Feb/11

fun.
Joolz - 22/Feb/11 with Matt Upwood

pclark - 22/Feb/11 with jimhall

Ben Sharp - Solo - 21/Feb/11

good sight seeing route, excellent condition lovely exposed route, loose snow but firm under foot ice, three of us together climbed, which made it slower specially with my tight boots killing me, newcomer to winter climbing pete henley made it look easy which it was but two grade 2's in as many days is credit deserved, again a day like thursday on the ben was magic , well exposed route this one, a nice introduction to winter mountaineering, would recommend this route to any newishcomer, good confeidence booster needed after a long absence, my thanks to mr howes,
k2blow - 2nd - 10/Feb/11 with john howes

with ash, mikey, magnus and pog (moving together)
nath_casper - 10/Feb/11 with ash

Two beginners Easy II as top of curtain traverse was well snowed up
MarkDavies36 - Lead O/S - Feb/11

Ross Young - AltLd O/S - 29/Jan/11 with Emma HWUMC

Hidden - Solo - Jan/11

mr rob - AltLd O/S - 2011 with Jordan

The Wriggler - 2011

oliverk - 2011

jon59 - 2011

halfaseesaw - 2011

Sean Kelly - 2011

Ben C - 2011

Hidden - Solo - 2011

Tobias at Home - 2011

mschmude - 2011

isi_o - 2011

Hidden - 2011

Hidden - 2nd - 2011

trudged through cruddy slush to the ridge and then had a nice walk with the occasional good view.
gethin_allen - Solo - 29/Dec/10 with Jimbo C

Swam up the lower part due to the massive thaw that was going on.
Jimbo C - Solo O/S - 29/Dec/10 with Gethin

lukehunt - Solo - 23/Dec/10 with Tom Ripley

gripped01 - AltLd - 16/Dec/10 with Mike Henesy, Dave Tait

JonnoP - AltLd - 21/Nov/10 with Caroline Larkman

Adamski1986 - 2nd - Nov/10 with Jess Abbott

emiln - 14/Oct/10 with James, Justina K.

Mayaculpa - 09/Oct/10 with John Walker

Pompey - Solo - Oct/10

Hidden - 26/Sep/10

Mike Peacock - Solo - 12/Sep/10 with Tom Hecht

Down climbed after castle ridge.
Stuzz - Solo rpt - 01/Sep/10

descent.
KeithAlexander - Solo - 07/Aug/10 with Martin Dempster, Graeme Diack

Stephen Halliday - 19/Jun/10 with Neil Halliday, Finn Curry

neilhalliday - 19/Jun/10 with Finn Curry, Stephen Halliday

Finn Curry - 19/Jun/10 with Stephen Halliday, neilhalliday

In descent
amy - 12/Jun/10 with Dave Farnell

carl_123 - Solo O/S - 14/May/10

Hidden - AltLd - 04/Apr/10

alan barnes - Solo - 16/Mar/10 with cam fowler, luke

AndyNicol - AltLd O/S - Mar/10 with Alasdair McLean

Moved together for the whole thing. Perfect sunny winters day on the Ben.
climberuk - Solo O/S - 20/Feb/10 with Griff

Winter conditions
mr.benton - 15/Feb/10

jolyon.cohen - 2nd - 14/Feb/10 with Dave Wright

davidwright - Lead - 14/Feb/10 with Joe Cohen

pudding - AltLd O/S - 13/Feb/10

lindsam - AltLd O/S - 13/Feb/10 with Jos Style

Hidden - AltLd O/S - 04/Feb/10

a13x - Feb/10 with Jordan Phethean

Lead? - moved together really
Tobes - AltLd - Feb/10 with mejules

willoates - Feb/10 with Steve, lawrence

pudding - Solo - Feb/10 with alex peace, alex winter

no need to rope up. from car to car in 7 hours
benkelsey - Solo O/S - 29/Jan/10 with Remus Knowles

great climb although not really grade 2 as ice ramp was pretty snowy. used as descent route too. stunning views from the ridge.
gb83 - Solo - 28/Jan/10 with masa

Guided by Alan Kimber, so not a true lead. Well with in my capabilities tho, can't wait to go back for another try. Very enjoyable route. Great exposure on the top of the ridge and wonderful views.
mattrm - Lead - 03/Jan/10

oliverk - Solo - 03/Jan/10 with Joe

Perfect conditions
ndraper1 - AltLd - Jan/10

Hidden - 2010

MarkDavies36 - Solo O/S - 2010 with Guy Keating, Steve Randles

pratty25 - 2010

pratty25 - 2010

hikerman - 2010

Much harder than a few years ago - powder snow on ice high up but not banked out; many small steep neve sections. Gully after the curtain crossing contains some iffy ice. Took ~ 6 hr for route, definate grade II. Led all, many pitches, few bits of moving together, very cold.
kevinknights - Lead rpt - 29/Dec/09 with Beth, Ryan

Hidden - Solo O/S - 21/Dec/09

Ollie B - Solo O/S - 21/Dec/09

Hidden - Solo - 21/Dec/09

Did the first few pitches, be moving as a 3 and pitching everything meant progress was slow, so we bailed.
frankcp87 - AltLd dnf - 21/Dec/09

Martin McPhillie - AltLd O/S - 17/Dec/09 with Ewan Russell

Hidden - Lead - 04/Dec/09

Hidden - 04/Dec/09

Johann - AltLd O/S - Dec/09 with Sarah Lewis

Done in the rain but still a quality day out.
prog99 - 23/Oct/09

Slab was a bit damp, but otherwise a really lovely route and a great way to celebrate Kenny's 60th.
Fiona Reid - Solo - 23/Oct/09

Liam Martin - Solo O/S - 17/Aug/09

Hidden - Aug/09

Hidden - Solo - 21/Jun/09

This was my first real climb. I was guided by Guy Stevens(Top Man), it was a fantastic day, and hopefully the first of many. Awesome
gazzashep - 15/Jun/09 with Guy Steven

absolutebeginner - Solo - 13/May/09 with halfaseesaw

easers - Lead - May/09 with Becca Hayman

Like a summers day in the Alps. Sunny warm and soft snow.
mikehenesy - AltLd O/S - 19/Mar/09 with Chris Lodge

Palomino1hills - Lead - 05/Mar/09 with Andy

tomtom89 - Solo - Feb/09

ernieb182 - Lead O/S - Jan/09 with Guy Smith

cragmanuk - 2009 with Andy Kipling

rnotman67 - Solo - 2009

cpforbes - 2009

Alastair MacSween - Solo - 06/Dec/08

Ken Applegate - Solo - Sep/08 with Rory Stewart, Matt Lander, Scott Kirkhope

TomPollock - Solo O/S - 30/Aug/08

default_slipper - Solo - 16/Jun/08

A good day on the Ben. Shorter and easier than I had expected, but a quality scramble.
Only a hill - Solo - 16/Jun/08

Hidden - Solo β - 14/Jun/08

Hidden - Solo - Jun/08

joeydurkin - 31/May/08

feeder_12 - Solo O/S - 26/May/08 with Adie

Hidden - Solo - 18/May/08

Hidden - 01/Mar/08

Moved together
eagleopus - AltLd O/S - 10/Feb/08 with Gareth

martinazando - 2nd O/S - Feb/08 with Al Benson

al99 - Lead - Feb/08 with Martina Zandonella

Hidden - AltLd O/S - 20/Jan/08

Hidden - 2008

monkeyboyraw - Solo - 2008

Mark Collins - Solo O/S - 2008

Hidden - Solo - 02/Dec/07

Captain Solo - Solo - 19/Aug/07 with Karen

AnTeallach - 17/Jul/07 with Steve Hammond, Scott Muir, Various, Steven Addison

descent
andymoin - Solo O/S - 09/Jun/07 with Tim Cross

Descent
Captain Solo - Solo - 05/Jun/07

Moved together placed runners round the ledge section which had little ice for the crampons to bite. The ledge is easy to miss. Fantastic day clear skies and sunshine. Very Alpine
star8ug - Lead O/S - 31/Mar/07 with Brother

Hidden - Lead - 25/Mar/07

Paula Hamilton-Gibson - Mar/07

Hidden - 2nd O/S - Feb/07

Hidden - AltLd - 28/Jan/07

in descent
mav - 15/Jul/06 with James Beckett

stephenmckenzie - Solo O/S - Jul/06 with Roy the Border Collie, Ronald Cameron

default_slipper - Solo O/S - Jun/06

In descent
Alastair MacSween - Solo - 13/May/06 with Andy Ingram, Graham Hunter, Phil Warriner

SteveM - AltLd - 08/Feb/06 with Tobs

b.hayley - AltLd O/S - Feb/06

yashvi - 2nd - 14/Jan/06 with Jo Wimalasena

AG - 2006

malky_c - Sep/05

tlanky2001 - Solo O/S - 02/Jul/05 with Calum Wilkinson

industrialiceman - 28/Feb/05

Hidden - Solo - 01/Feb/05

UKscrambler - Solo - 2005

rambler_gary - 2005

Continued up after doing Centurion. Pretty sensational way of going up The Ben for the first time.
chrishedgehog - Solo O/S - 16/Aug/03 with Dan Bailey

Mainly on rock.
bms - Solo - 19/Apr/03

Alastair MacSween - Solo - 06/Jul/02

crowberry gully - May/02

moving together
Mark Salter - AltLd O/S - 02/Mar/02 with Chris Shorrock

MarkDavies36 - Solo O/S - 2002 with Guy Keating, Steve Randles

Stuart S - Solo - 04/Aug/01 with Diane Giulianotti

mikelaing - 2nd - Jan/01 with Storm, Pete Harrison

seanyt - Lead - Nov/00

luckyjim - Solo - Aug/00

akhughes - 2000

steveP - Solo O/S - 1999 with Ed Coote

Descent. Did upwards Aug 2012
Iain Thow - Solo - 22/Sep/97

GuyM - 1997

biggianthead - Solo - 09/Mar/96 with HT

As part of course.
cem - AltLd O/S - Feb/96 with Mark from Oxford

Hidden - 1996

Stuart S - Solo - Sep/91 with Hal Taylor

Simon Caldwell - 1990

Hidden - Solo - 1984

David Smith - Lead - Aug/76 with students

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