Womanless Wall** VS 4b
[womanless wall, 3 kb]18m.

Rockfax Description
18m. Trend left up the lower wall to a large flake, move up to some big rounded pockets the swing right to a final crack. © ROCKFAX

FA. Tony Howard 1958

Ticklists: ROCKFAX Western Grit Grade List, Moorland Grit - The Essential Selection (Over The Moors).

Photo: womanless wall © Tom V
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This climb is in 106 logbooks, and on 7 wishlists.

Andy Peak 1 - Lead O/S - 01/Oct/15 with Pete o Donovan

Hidden - 2nd - 01/Oct/15

Evening climbing, so crag not in sun, but warm and lovely spot. Great moorland rock.
manwithacam - Lead - 23/Jun/15 with Sarah

Hidden - 2nd - 23/Jun/15

Alex Thompson - 2nd rpt - 10/Jun/15 with Sam Carey

Fantastic climb. Shame the top saw me pulling on heather.
db79 - Lead O/S - 10/Jun/15

Climbster - Lead O/S - 18/Apr/15 with Ian

Really great climbing, with a good sense of exposure
fifth - Lead O/S - 04/Sep/14 with Max

WillCass - Lead - 27/Jul/14 with Monika

Nigel Bond - Lead - 30/Jun/14 with Max Cole

Clipped a cam from Alex's failed ascent of 'The trouble with women...' Traverse holds very wet but absolutely massive. 4b for certain.
BenedictIEP - Lead β - 18/Jun/14 with Sam Carey, Haydn Martin, Alex Thompson

Getting a little tired of Rockfax(presumably their consensus groups) down grading classic climbs.This route is VS 4c and sending a 4b climber up it is likely to result in a nasty accident!Its a gritstone VS 4c and should stay that way!
andybirtwistle - Lead - 12/Jun/14 with Keith Lonsdale

simon1965 - 2nd - 21/May/14 with James

Stig - Lead O/S - 21/May/14 with Simon1965

Jim Slater - 2nd O/S - 10/Aug/13 with James Lismore

Hidden - Lead - 10/Aug/13

Just Another Dave - Lead O/S - 03/Aug/13

I suspect the section around the end of the traverse never really dries out - it has been hot and dry for the last 3 weeks! Excellent route on superb rock, but 4b seems a little inadequate. A route where a confident approach pays off.
Rog Wilko - 2nd - 21/Jul/13 with Ade W

j.buckley87 - Lead O/S - 04/Jul/13

Fantastic. Took a fall at end of the traverse first time and luckily the cam in the pocket was bomber. This works quite well as you are deposited back on the big flake after the swing ! Went back for a round two and got up it fine, even thought parts of the upper crack were wet. At the top go right, as suggested by Rockfax, not left as indicated by the new Over The Moors guide.
Jules Lane - Lead dog - 03/Jun/13 with Mynydd Mark W

scottidog - 2nd O/S - 07/Apr/13 with Graeme

drysori - Lead O/S - 28/Feb/13 with stu

Hidden - 2nd - 28/Feb/13

Another excellent route. Traverse feels quite bold. Finishing crack very wet..
dangmtb - Lead O/S - 17/Feb/13

Great climb, would be nice to revisit when it's not as wet on the upper section.
richnorgate - 2nd O/S - 17/Feb/13 with Dan

Frank the Husky - 2013

Hidden - 2nd - 10/Aug/12

Hidden - Lead O/S - 22/Jul/12

ClimberJimmyB - 2nd O/S - 22/Jul/12 with John Gaffney, Dan Matthewman

JimD58 - Lead O/S - 15/Jul/12

tsl42 - 2nd O/S - 26/May/12 with Gaz Hooson

Fragmod - Lead - 26/May/12

jimbonfire - Lead O/S - 26/May/12

Hidden - 2nd - 30/Jul/11

MeMeMe - 2nd - 03/Jul/11 with Andy

BLodge - 2nd - 08/May/11

cragtyke - Lead - 25/Apr/11 with gareth h

willworkforfoodjnr - Lead O/S - 20/Apr/11 with Haydn Martin

Hardonicus - 2nd rpt - 20/Apr/11 with Chris Surfleet

J25 - 2nd - 20/Apr/11 with Vicky Jennings

vix - Lead O/S - 20/Apr/11 with Jonny

Probably a really good climb in better conditions but didn't notice how wet the upper section was in places (from the traverse from the large pocket onwards) and the top out was vegetated and doggy!! not the best warm up!! One to do again when not wet.
Graeme Hammond - Lead O/S - 19/Mar/11 with Richard Williams

Hidden - Lead O/S - 05/Mar/11

Hidden - 2nd - 30/Jun/10

Hmm, SWING is the operative word here indicating hand traversing the monster positive holds, NOT a pebble pulling scary delicate foot traverse. Great route, mini epic (as usual) utterly avoidable with calmness and forethought.
Duz Walker - Lead O/S - 26/Jun/10 with Penny

Hmm, SWING is the operative word here indicating hand traversing the monster positive holds, NOT a pebble pulling scary delicate foot traverse. Great route, mini epic (as usual) utterly avoidable with calmness and forethought.
Duz Walker - Lead O/S - 26/Jun/10 with Penny

Hidden - Lead O/S - 19/May/10

Hidden - Lead β - 17/May/10

PeteH - 2nd O/S - 15/May/10 with Noel Peatfield, Naomi Hart

NaomiHart - 2nd O/S - 15/May/10 with Noel Peatfield, Peter Hart

Barry D - Lead - 27/Apr/10 with Ian W

Excellent rock, loads more positive than it appears from the ground. Thoroughly enjoyed it!
embob - 2nd - 17/Apr/10 with Alex

Stuart Wildman - 2nd O/S - 17/Apr/10 with Andy Potter

Hidden - Lead - 17/Apr/10

adi bryant - Lead O/S - 2010 with Lee

Hidden - 2nd - 27/Sep/09

colin milton - Lead - 18/Sep/09 with Sari Nevala

Hidden - 2nd - 18/Sep/09

Nice climb a little et in the upper part
Simon Davenport - Lead O/S - 21/Jun/09 with Brian and Dave

Hardonicus - Lead rpt - 22/Apr/09

Rachel Somerville - 2nd O/S - 19/Apr/09 with Graham Booth, Natalie Treadgold and Ali Wood

pog100 - 2nd - 18/Apr/09 with Reaver2k

Hidden - 2nd O/S - 05/Apr/09

Graham Booth - Lead O/S - 01/Apr/09 with Natalie Treadgold, Rachel Somerville

Hidden - 2009

Hidden - Lead O/S - 20/Sep/08

Was a bit damp but still climable. Low in the grade.
Ropeboy - Lead - 23/Aug/08

Matthallinan - Lead - 05/Jun/08 with Phil Parker

Jon started the lead then went off route, and took a big whiper, so seemore finished off the route, but as i had to get the cam out which was about 2 meters above the travese ledge where vardy went off route again on his 2nd attempt, i decided to move across using my feet on the ledge...wouldn't recomend it.
skittles - 2nd O/S - 31/May/08 with Gareth Watkins, Jonathan Vardy

Hidden - 2nd - 31/May/08

craig h - 2nd rpt - 21/May/08 with Rich B

bullwinkle - Lead O/S - 10/May/08 with Jamie

Alex Thompson - Lead O/S - 19/Mar/08 with Jon Thompson

climber130887 - Lead O/S - 10/Feb/08

Hidden - 2nd O/S - Feb/08

daveagriff - Lead - 2008

Hidden - 2nd - 21/Oct/07

psychicbread - Lead O/S - 29/Aug/07 with Max

Ian Broome - 2nd O/S - 09/Jun/07 with Rich Wainwright

Hidden - Lead O/S - 09/Jun/07

Hidden - Lead O/S - 02/Jun/07

alicia - Lead O/S - 10/Jun/06 with Ali K

Hidden - Solo O/S - 10/Jun/06

John Marsland - Lead - 02/Jul/05 with Ant Williams and John Haslam

FrankW - 2nd O/S - 18/Jun/05 with Jane T, Joe

shaun walby - Lead O/S - 11/Jun/05 with Chris Tan

ArnaudG - Lead - May/05 with Penny

Hidden - Lead dog - 24/Apr/05

r0b - Lead O/S - 06/Jun/04 with Andy Smith

Simon Caldwell - Lead O/S - 24/Apr/04 with Carmen

Duncan I - Lead - 2004

Phil West - 2nd rpt - 19/Oct/02 with Chris Tan

Roget - Solo O/S - 21/Jul/02

charlesmfrench - Lead - 14/Jul/02

craig h - 2nd - 25/May/97 with Janet Hannah

Phil West - Lead O/S - 12/Apr/97 with David Atherton

StevePr - 2nd - 1997 with Alan

Andy Say - Lead O/S - 11/Apr/95

Very undergraded for 'VS 4b'
Gordon Stainforth - 2nd dnf - 14/Aug/94 with Steve Dean

ste_d - 14/May/94

mikedelderfield - Lead O/S - 01/Apr/94 with Steven Delderfield

craig h - Lead O/S - 07/Jun/92 with Jo, Gavin and Matt K

ste_d - 2nd O/S - 12/May/92 with mik

Hidden - Lead - 07/Sep/91

Dave Musgrove - Solo - 17/Jun/89

Evening session after school - with George Wilson?
uphillnow - Lead - 1976

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