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The Hyll Drem Girdle** HVS 5a

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[Hylldrem Girdle, 3 kb]4 pitches. an interesting route, useful in the wet, as it mainly follows under large overhangs. 1:65ft 5a. Start at the large oak at the foot of the gangway.climb leftwards along the obvious break to reach a short groove. climb this and make an awkward move onto the slabby rib on the left. peg belay. 2: 35ft. 4b traverse awkwardly left across a short slab to another rib and descend the groove on the other side to a small stance. 3: 40ft. 4b. Cross the slab on the left and descend a broken groove to a good ledge below the obvious slab. 4: 80ft. 4c. climb the slab to a tree belay. Alternatively climb the groove until forced onto the slab.

Ticklists: North Wales Rock Graded List, HVS Adventures, North Wales 100 Classic Climbs.

Photo: Hylldrem Girdle © Glyn
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This climb is in 269 logbooks, and on 10 wishlists.

Hidden - AltLd O/S - 29/Jul/14

Lead 1 and 4 in the wet after finding no belay at the end of p3. But easy climbing anyway.
robgixer - AltLd O/S - 19/Jul/14

jacobjlloyd - AltLd O/S - 19/Jul/14 with Dougie

In pouring rain, take 1st belay above the tree next time!
MoWalker3 - AltLd - 19/Jul/14 with MattB

Lead pitches 1+2 forwards then backwards.
AlexanderRyanBanks - Lead O/S - 19/Jul/14 with Will

dswansonlow - Sent rpt - 19/Jul/14 with jacob loyd

Lead 2 and 4. Great entertainment on soaking wet day. The only bit of route that was wet was pitch 4 and it was no problem to climb.
Motown - AltLd O/S - 14/Jul/14 with Luke

On a wet day. Led p1, p3. Nice move around the roof/corner. P4 was wet
Mr Tickle - AltLd O/S - 14/Jul/14 with Will

Led the first two pitches in a one-er. Andy linked the last two pitches together too. Last pitch was soaking. Great route.
deacondeacon - Lead O/S - 27/May/14

Led pitch 2. We were going to abseil off at the end of pitch 3 but couldn't find the ab points so ended up abbing off of the pitch 2 tat.
ben.phillips - AltLd O/S - 24/May/14 with Mike Gallimore, Andrew Erskine

First two pitches to avoid the rain, then bailed.
andy_e - 2nd O/S - 24/May/14 with Mike Gallimore, Ben Phillips

Hidden - AltLd - 23/Apr/14

Hidden - AltLd O/S - 01/Apr/14

oliverpcain - AltLd O/S - 2014

mike mo - 2014

Hidden - AltLd O/S - 09/Dec/13

pitch 2 and 4
rbharries - AltLd O/S - 09/Dec/13 with neils EW

All bar last pitch as it was sopping. I lead 2+3 as one pitch. Very tricky move (4b my arse!) leaving the first stance.
Double Knee Bar - AltLd O/S - 06/Dec/13

led 2/3 in one
steven_daniels99 - Lead O/S - 16/Nov/13

dswansonlow - AltLd O/S - 21/Sep/13 with Andrew C

Hidden - AltLd O/S - 14/Sep/13

Ray Sparks - AltLd O/S - 14/Sep/13 with Si

Hidden - 2nd dog - 12/Sep/13

Hidden - AltLd O/S - 08/Sep/13

Hidden - AltLd - 03/Aug/13

Hidden - 23/Jun/13

Hidden - AltLd O/S - 24/May/13

mike lawrence? - AltLd - 23/May/13 with Colin

P2, P45. went high off the belay at P2 not across the little slab, bit hard for 4b! sunshine not the rain we were promised
lithos - AltLd - 18/May/13 with andy kitchen

Tim Rodgers - AltLd - 05/May/13 with Mike Lea

Ows - AltLd - May/13

P1
ashtond6 - Lead O/S - 28/Apr/13

Hidden - AltLd O/S - 28/Apr/13

Hidden - Lead - 17/Jan/13

tricky move at end of first pitch. otherwise fantastic route.
anthonydouglas - 2nd - 17/Jan/13 with Craig Letham

Hidden - AltLd - 2013

Lead on a rainy day - however my poor route reading took us under the Slab and across a mingin' ledge until we ab'd off a sapling. Sorry Dougie!
AndrewJamesCherry - AltLd dnf - 2013

soph - AltLd - 25/Aug/12 with Andy Reeve

Jones_88 - AltLd O/S - 12/Aug/12

ian caton - AltLd rpt - 04/Aug/12 with Abi

Abi Chard - AltLd O/S - 04/Aug/12 with Ian

Dunx - AltLd O/S - 25/Jul/12 with Joe M

Led P1 this time. Phil led Maybelline finish (HVS 5a??!!) up a groove to the right of the final slab. Big, big moves into groove, I couldn't do it so phil abbed down and cleaned route. Abbed to bottom had to retrieve ropes.
fizzychewitt - AltLd - 01/Jul/12 with Phil

davebrox - Lead - Jul/12

Went to do hardd but got lost so did this intead. Led the oppostie pitches of the last time i climbed it.
Ollie B - AltLd rpt - 23/Jun/12 with A.Eccles

Interesting Climb, Crux at end of first pitch was key to climb. Start of second pitch was made much easier by stepping feet high on right before moving left. Decided to join Pitch 2 & 3 together, extended quick draws reduces rope drag. On arriving at Pitch 4, the slab was rain covered, however due to large foot and hand placements, this pitch is fairly comfortable. Ab Down from Tree is approx. 20-22 Meters. Fantastic Climb when it is raining :-)
Carl Simmons - Lead O/S - 07/Jun/12 with Robert Harden

RD led of P1, P2 and most of P3
rd20 - AltLd O/S - 07/Jun/12 with Iona, Tim N

Hidden - 2nd rpt - 07/Jun/12

Turned up to climb as it was very dry in the wet weather. Initially to be Alt leads however I had to back down at the start of the second pitch. Very good climb.
Robert.harden - 2nd O/S - 07/Jun/12 with Carl Simmons

Hidden - AltLd - 04/Jun/12

Lead first and last pitch, tom joined middle 2 in one big pitch resulting in some interesting ropework!
Sam Simpson - Lead O/S - 03/Jun/12 with Tom Doldon

Stays dry when wet. A memorable route
Tom Doldon - AltLd O/S - 03/Jun/12 with sam simpson 48

fun climb for a wet day. 1st pitch is best, crux is fun, probably less safe for the second. other 3 pitches are easy and last pitch had a very soggy end!
vertically_challenged - AltLd O/S - 15/May/12

stemill - AltLd - 22/Apr/12 with Jeff

Chosen because the weather idiots said it would be pouring with rain.....Had nothing but sunshine all day.........;-)
jeffb - AltLd O/S - 22/Apr/12 with stemill

Hidden - AltLd O/S - 02/Apr/12

Climbed crux
tlmarjot - AltLd O/S - 17/Mar/12 with Josh Marshall

Callum Anderson - 2012

Hidden - 2012

Hidden - AltLd - 16/Oct/11

led 1,3, not that it particularly matters on this one
psychomansam - AltLd O/S - 12/Oct/11

P2 + 4, good quality outing when the weathers shite everywhere. bit short lived but cant complain.
Ollie B - AltLd O/S - 08/Oct/11 with Stu

I led 2nd and 4th pitches. The Tremadog guidebook says ab from 3rd belay if wet, but that was the only belay with no tat or stakes there!
dobby 200 - AltLd O/S - 06/Oct/11 with ben

In the rain, led all pitches. P1 to P3 stayed dry but P4 was streaming with rain. Great fun route.
givemetea - Lead O/S - 24/Sep/11 with Christine Belk

P2,P4.
smolders - AltLd O/S - 24/Sep/11 with Patrick

Hidden - AltLd O/S - 10/Aug/11

tom lead first pitch but went up onto the E2 which I couldn't follow so I stripped and back climbed and tom abbed off.
climbtim - AltLd - 10/Aug/11 with Tom Thorne

Hidden - AltLd O/S - 07/Aug/11

Adam1973 - Lead O/S - 28/Jul/11 with Ann S

Climbed this after dreich rain all morning and it was pretty well dry until the final wall. Fell off hard move on first pitch-but well placed small gear held. First ever fall while seconding a traverse.
Ann S - 2nd - 28/Jul/11 with Adam

Hidden - AltLd O/S - 16/Jul/11

mackay780 - 2nd O/S - 08/Jul/11

Lead P1. Kit seemed to take the start of a much harder route on P2 before descending the gulley
Daniel Heath - AltLd β - 08/Jul/11 with Kit Perry

Lead p1 and p3. In the rain, but the rock was bone dry.
Chris Perry - AltLd O/S - 08/Jul/11

dan ely - AltLd O/S - 22/Jun/11 with tony (army)

myoung - AltLd O/S - 21/Jun/11 with tim, Tom Sampson

tim20 - AltLd - 21/Jun/11 with tom sampson

P1 only in both directions! Comedy wet weather ascent, brought seconds up to belay, only for wind to start blowing rain straight on to route! Being very cold we decided a reversal was in order - much fun though!
Dizz - Lead dnf - 12/Jun/11 with Stephen, megan

Hidden - 2nd dnf - 12/Jun/11

Hidden - AltLd O/S - 29/May/11

a (mostly) dry climb in the rain!
pebbles - AltLd - 29/May/11 with guido

Hidden - AltLd O/S - 28/May/11

Hidden - AltLd O/S - 23/May/11

Pissing rain. Abseiled off after pitch 2.
Alan James - UKC and UKH - Lead - 16/May/11 with ClimbWebNet

Lead P1 & P3. P1 is worth 2 stars on it's own as the climbing and exposure is great. The other pitches are definitely wacky. Thought P4 was a bit mean actually, spaced pro and a hard move... generally speaking though quite soft for HVS.. What a great wet weather option!
Wilbur - AltLd O/S - 23/Apr/11 with Paul Winder

kdalzell - 2nd - 12/Mar/11 with Liam Fleming

Liam FLeming - Lead - 12/Mar/11 with karen dalzell

After a heavy night's rain. Led P2. Tough few moves off belay. Didn't seem to be an obviousab point after P3. Started up the corner of P4 which was soaked. Reversed P3 and abb'd off.
Cardi - AltLd O/S - 19/Feb/11 with Gwen

was awesome!! a must do if its raining at tremadog! lead pitches 2 and 4. went directly up from belay on big greasy slopers for start of second pitch as going left along the slab was wet. we should have taken chalk with us as it was mega greasy!!!
samrad - AltLd O/S - 25/Jan/11 with james G

Awesome route. Real adventure. Few hard moves in the wet. Led P1 and P3.
farmus21 - AltLd - 25/Jan/11 with Sam Radcliffe

Hidden - 2011

Hidden - 2011

Hidden - 2011

Hidden - 2011

PAJames - 2011

PAJames - 2011

Hidden - AltLd O/S - 2011

The Green Giant - AltLd O/S - 2011 with Dan with the van

popov86 - Lead - 25/Nov/10

Hidden - AltLd - 31/Oct/10

dts - AltLd O/S - 31/Oct/10 with Andy Taylor

Hidden - AltLd β - 30/Oct/10

david morse - AltLd O/S - 30/Sep/10 with chris todd

Hidden - AltLd O/S - 30/Sep/10

Hidden - AltLd O/S - 24/Sep/10

P1 and 3
Anthony Dixon - AltLd - 24/Sep/10 with Ben

led 1,2 & 4
Ianwesterby - AltLd rpt - 19/Sep/10 with Chris Wilson

Hidden - AltLd - 16/Sep/10

Led pitches 2 & 4
Ianwesterby - AltLd O/S - 15/Sep/10

AlexD - AltLd O/S - 15/Sep/10 with IanW

Hidden - AltLd - 10/Sep/10

Only lead 3rd pitch!
RhedwrMynydd - AltLd O/S - 10/Sep/10

Lead P2,4
Sankey - AltLd - 06/Sep/10 with Luke

fizzychewitt - AltLd - 29/Aug/10 with Phil

Guy Wilson - AltLd - 31/Jul/10 with Byron Buck

Great fun in the wet. Last pitch was soaking though which made the last few moves a bit hairy!
Byronius Maximus - AltLd O/S - 31/Jul/10 with Guy Wilson

Very rainy day, only did first two pitches
Fatclimber - 2nd dnf - 25/Jul/10 with Huw

Very wet
Magsy - 2nd - 20/Jul/10

sambosanquet101 - AltLd - 16/Jul/10 with Peter Darch

pldarch - AltLd O/S - 15/Jul/10 with Sam

schof - AltLd O/S - 14/Jul/10

Lead P1 and P3
MD - AltLd O/S - 10/Jul/10 with Ed

Rainy day, so this was the route to do! Enjoyable and unusual. Led P1 after Mark backed off and reversed from the crux, as well as P3 and P4. Followed the right hand edge of the slab on P4, which was dry apart from the last few moves, whereas most of the slab was drenched.
Misha - AltLd O/S - 10/Jul/10 with Mark

1st pitch only, then abbed due to wet rock.
HIGHTOWER - 2nd - 09/Jul/10 with Pete (Indi)

grady - AltLd O/S - Jul/10

Shaw Brown - AltLd - 06/Jun/10 with anne salisbury

A brilliant route for a wet day.
victim of mathematics - Lead O/S - 29/May/10 with Kyle

Mr. K - 2nd O/S - 29/May/10 with Colin Angus

1st and 4th
willson - AltLd - 06/May/10 with chris, ben

dan-8990 - AltLd O/S - 05/May/10 with AO

Hidden - AltLd O/S - 02/May/10

greenclimb - Lead O/S - 25/Apr/10 with Sarah

Hidden - AltLd - 25/Apr/10

Hidden - AltLd rpt - Mar/10

made an early stance on the first pitch.
Steeve - AltLd O/S - Feb/10

Lead 1st (awesome crux!) and 3rd pitch, was a little slippy in places. Abbed off end of pitch 3 as slab was soaked.
sam820 - AltLd O/S - 24/Jan/10 with Ben Ram

Lead Pitch 1,2,4. Very enjoyable, even though the last pitch was wet.
BorisVBlade - AltLd O/S - 24/Jan/10 with Bernard Lam

metal arms - Lead O/S - 23/Jan/10

Hidden - 2010

Interesting for both the leader and second, wobbly pegs and wet last pitch, although the fact that the rest of the pitches were dry in the pissing rain is pretty good.
willoates - AltLd O/S - 2010 with Steve

Hidden - Lead O/S - 20/Nov/09

Dhonny_Jaws - AltLd O/S - 20/Nov/09 with Andrew Porter, Michael Porter

Led pitches 1 and 3, great fun in the rain especially the slab at the end... gopping!
drewish - AltLd O/S - 15/Nov/09 with SteveE9

Hidden - Lead O/S - 18/Oct/09

Sparky!!!3 - AltLd - 04/Oct/09

Hidden - 2nd - 02/Oct/09

Woosed out of doing the tricky move on pitch 1. I blame it on the huge curry I'd eaten and the bottle of port I'd drunk the night before!
Chris Sansum - Lead dnf - 29/Sep/09 with Gary Lewin

Led pitch 2 and both abbed off at the end of pitch 3 due to a soaked pitck 4.
John Roe - 01/Sep/09 with Rob Patchett

Led Pitch 2. Pleased to reach the ground.
malc - AltLd O/S - 30/Aug/09 with Martin Hewes, Adele and Paul

Hidden - 2nd - 29/Aug/09

scorky345 - AltLd - 28/Aug/09 with Peter Wood, Gemma Simone, Owen Pearce

On a really wet day, enjoyed the final slab getting soaking wet.
Alex Mason - AltLd O/S - 23/Aug/09 with Grimer

In the rain.
Hammy - AltLd - 14/Aug/09 with Danny Towers

Hidden - 2nd O/S - 04/Aug/09

strapless - AltLd - 31/Jul/09 with Stu Evans

five - Lead O/S - 11/Jul/09 with AV, TW

1st Pitch - Me 2nd Pitch - Andy 3rd Pitch - Me 4th Pitch - Me
James Oakes - AltLd O/S - 04/Jul/09 with Andy Lawrence, Bill Lawrence

Hidden - AltLd - 20/Jun/09

Paula Hamilton-Gibson - AltLd O/S - 20/Jun/09 with Johny Wilson

lukewilliams - 2nd - 06/Jun/09

mikelaing - AltLd - May/09 with Ian Whitehead

dan gibson - Solo O/S - 19/Apr/09

3 Names - AltLd O/S - 13/Apr/09 with Richard Bartlet

Castleclimber - AltLd O/S - 13/Apr/09 with Vince McNally

the juicy dangler - AltLd O/S - 14/Mar/09 with chris lycett

Hidden - Lead - Feb/09

Bill Lawrence - 2nd O/S - 2009 with oaksi2

bwestwood - AltLd - 2009

Peter Reynolds - Lead - 2009 with ben westwood

Hidden - 2nd - 25/Oct/08

Perfect day, pouring down everywhere else but we stayed dry and even did the last pitch before it started raining. Peter climbed in the middle, used 4 ropes. brilliant.
Neil Metcalfe101 - 2nd O/S - 25/Oct/08 with Andy Chapman & Peter Vaughn

i led first and third pitches, hedd led second and fourth. A bit of a frightener!
gareth scott borthwick - AltLd O/S - 24/Oct/08 with Heddwyn Fletcher

barni - AltLd - 29/Sep/08 with Liam fleming

Climbed after heavy rain - bone dry
Jim Walton - Lead O/S - 28/Sep/08 with Mike Owen

arobbo - 08/Sep/08

ron244 - 2nd O/S - 26/Aug/08 with Kenny and Julie

On course, following the instructor.
eldre070 - 2nd O/S - 18/Aug/08 with Rob Hewitt

duzinga - 2nd O/S - 09/May/08 with Guido and Chuck

Hidden - Lead - 09/May/08

exciting!
davefount - 2nd O/S - 05/Apr/08 with Glyn and Tristen

centurion05 - Lead O/S - 30/Mar/08 with ginge

Sean Kelly - 2008

Hidden - 2nd O/S - 2008

Hidden - 2nd - 26/Dec/07

Hidden - AltLd O/S - 25/Nov/07

Hidden - AltLd O/S - 25/Nov/07

Neil D - AltLd O/S - 25/Nov/07 with Jonny Phillips

JulesOnline - 2nd dog - 07/Sep/07

Hidden - 2nd - 02/Sep/07

Luke Brooks - AltLd - 14/Aug/07 with Rob Grant

Missed the last pitch as it was a stream.
Zoomer - AltLd - 10/May/07 with Andy Nelson

Hidden - AltLd O/S - 06/May/07

Hidden - AltLd O/S - May/07

Glyn - 2007 with Trystan

tumbling wizard - Lead O/S - 22/Oct/06

sgl0jd - AltLd - Aug/06 with Steve Hobbs

Brown - AltLd O/S - Jul/06 with Ralph

Ian McNeill - 2006

Hidden - Lead O/S - 2006

Hidden - Lead O/S - 2006

Hidden - 2nd - 2006

Began it far too late in the day & progress impeded by unexpectedly wet rock. We abseiled off in the dark at the end of p2
cem - AltLd dnf - 18/Dec/05 with Graham Dolman

IOAN D - Lead - Dec/05 with rhys

Lead all but first pitch.
ritchierich - Lead O/S - 17/Sep/05 with Ritchie Griffiths

Hidden - AltLd - 01/Aug/05

Hidden - AltLd - Aug/04

Hidden - AltLd O/S - Aug/03

Rob84 - AltLd O/S - Jul/03 with Hosey, Alex Triffin

akhughes - Lead - 2003

Hidden - AltLd - 08/Sep/02

Hidden - 2nd O/S - 06/Sep/02

Hidden - AltLd - 18/Aug/02

Dry in the wet, until the crux at the end!! One of my most exciting climbs.
JohnHutch - Lead - Jul/02 with L

Budge - AltLd O/S - 18/May/02 with Mike Oates

DavidR - 25/Jul/00 with John Marston

cem - AltLd O/S - 09/Jul/00 with James Gregory

TobyA - AltLd O/S - 03/Jun/99 with Jack, Ruth

zero six - Lead O/S - 1998

Hidden - AltLd - 29/Jul/97

Ched - Lead O/S - 1997 with Glanfor

DavidR - 2nd - 23/Jul/96 with John Marston and Nathan Rippin

Hidden - Lead O/S - 07/Jul/96

Budge - AltLd O/S - 1995 with Rod Gritten

nai - AltLd - 1995 with Tim

Hidden - 1995

Hidden - AltLd - 01/May/94

Hidden - AltLd - 26/Feb/94

Marti999 - AltLd - 1994 with john

BigHairyIan - AltLd O/S - 30/Aug/93 with Mike Gibbison (Hairy)

Budge - Lead O/S - 1993 with Ellen Williams

Hidden - AltLd - 27/Nov/92

Hidden - AltLd - 02/Feb/92

Budge - AltLd O/S - 1992 with Richard Teed

Nick Biven - 1992

tlr - AltLd - 24/Jul/91 with Pom

Hidden - AltLd - 22/May/91

whispering nic - 17/Mar/91 with noj

Hidden - AltLd O/S - 19/Aug/90

Hidden - 2nd - 19/Aug/90

Hidden - AltLd - 1990

Hidden - AltLd - 06/Nov/88

babymoac - AltLd - 28/Aug/87 with MTW

Steve Crowe - AltLd O/S - 23/May/87 with SimonGee

Hidden - AltLd - 18/Apr/87

ChrisJD - AltLd - 15/Mar/87

Think it wsas Bob plus others or maybe ian Brown all very hazy lol :) 3 stars for a wet day route, 2 stars !
pebblespanker - Lead β - 21/Sep/86 with Bob Hassall

rainy day - abbed off before last pitch
Backinthegame - AltLd - Aug/86 with Stephen hughes, Gary Hughes

Hidden - 2nd O/S - 1986

Hidden - Lead - 09/Sep/84

AlanLittle - Lead - Apr/83 with Sue Kent

On a raint Sunday as is traditional - slightly damp final slab added spice!
pebblespanker - 2nd O/S - 21/Nov/82 with Doggy

Hammy - AltLd - 05/Dec/81 with Andy Murphy

Hidden - 1981

Mark Kemball - AltLd - 28/Jun/80 with Wawa

Hidden - AltLd - 21/Jun/80

Hammy - AltLd - 14/Jun/80 with Rob Lawson

Nigel Bond - AltLd - 12/May/79 with Andy Brown

Ian Jones - Lead rpt - 1979 with Mike Wright

Ian Jones - 2nd O/S - 1978 with Tommy Curtis

Bolt Phobia - AltLd - 16/Feb/75 with John Broadwell

granitbahn - AltLd - 1975

Hidden - 1975

Dave Musgrove - AltLd - 10/Feb/74 with Bob Knapton

rogerskews - AltLd - 01/Jul/73 with Keith Jenkins

RichardMc - AltLd - 03/Jan/72 with Roger Everett

The blocky jug that facilitated the crux move has disappeared!
mikej - Lead dnf - 23/Jul/71 with E

greenbuoy - AltLd - 30/May/71 with Terry Taylor

mikej - AltLd - 13/Mar/71 with John Bickerdyke

mikej - AltLd - 08/Sep/68 with Wil Hurford

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Voting
Total votes cast 148
hard E10 of 51
E10 of 51
easy E10 of 51
hard HVS1 of 51
HVS26 of 51
easy HVS20 of 51
hard VS4 of 51
VS0 of 51
easy VS0 of 51
hard 5b0 of 48
5b0 of 48
easy 5b0 of 48
hard 5a1 of 48
5a31 of 48
easy 5a11 of 48
hard 4c5 of 48
4c0 of 48
easy 4c0 of 48
3 Stars28 of 49
2 Stars17 of 49
1 Star4 of 49
0 Stars0 of 49
Bag of .....0 of 49
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Style of ascent

Soloed1 of 269 (0.4%)
Lead42 of 269 (15.6%)
Followed35 of 269 (13.0%)
Bouldered1 of 269 (0.4%)
Alt Leads168 of 269 (62.5%)
Unknown22 of 269 (8.2%)

'Climbed'120 of 269 (44.6%)
clean O/S130 of 269 (48.3%)
clean β3 of 269 (1.1%)
clean rpt7 of 269 (2.6%)
dogged2 of 269 (0.7%)
dnf7 of 269 (2.6%)