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Primitive Route** VD

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[Primitive Route corner/chimney pitch, 2 kb]No description has been contributed for this climb.

Ticklists: North Wales Rock Graded List.

Photo: Primitive Route corner/chimney pitch © Ronaldo
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This climb is in 27 logbooks, and on 10 wishlists.

SimonvanDam - AltLd - 12/Aug/13 with Matt Roberts

roberts1234567890 - AltLd - 12/Aug/13 with Simon Van Dam, Callum Bridger

Climbed with Justin from Clip up Climbing.
dawp4810 - AltLd - 26/Jun/13

A very poor route, no real line, lots of wet grass, poor protection. It wasn't 'Idwalesque' and would make a horrible introduction to Cloggy.
caradoc - AltLd O/S - 26/Jun/13 with nick yapp

Hidden - Solo O/S - 08/Jun/13

Ollie B - Solo O/S - 08/Jun/13 with D.Campbell

Hidden - Lead - 27/Mar/12

Hidden - AltLd - 01/Oct/11

did in the rain, really not fun, limited protection
chris687 - AltLd O/S - 16/Jun/11 with Gareth Steel

garethsteel - AltLd O/S - 16/Jun/11 with chris687

Bloody awful - did it on a windy day and everything at the top was dangerously loose for everyone below us.
batterj2 - 2nd O/S - 01/May/11 with Samian

Bond_Girl - 2nd - 22/Apr/11 with Ronald

Hidden - Lead - 22/Apr/11

My Dads first route
davidgent - Lead O/S - 05/Jun/10 with Dad

Graham Westbrook - AltLd O/S - Apr/10

Kind of agree with what everyone's said so far except that we were in the sun wearing shorts and a T-shirt so we didn't care!
CharlotteJelleyman - AltLd O/S - 02/Jun/09 with Herve Nuttall

Not much gear at all!
Sue Underwood - AltLd - 30/May/09 with Joanne Larty

Polly4 - AltLd - May/09 with claire Sephton

Privative in terms of quality. Equal amounts of vegetation as rock with less then abundant protection. Not recommend when wet and wearing big boots!
Glyn - Lead O/S - 14/Sep/08 with Clive Hudson (father)

A bag of vegetated arse.
dicky79 - 12/Jul/08 with Andy P

Ben Griffiths - Lead - 12/Jul/08

Used the new N Wales guide - seemed to follow the line on the photo but route description nothing close. Lots of grass, just enough gear, v. loose at top (DON'T stand below if any climbers above!). So either off-route or not 2 stars....?
epic ed - AltLd O/S - 05/May/07 with Adam F

Ended up doing the direct finish at VS as it looked, well, more direct... Overall lots of downclimbing, route finding, vegetation and grass filled belay placements. However in between there was some nice climbing, in particular P3 was the standout and the short crack on the VS finish was also nice.
catt - AltLd O/S - 21/Apr/07 with Blane, Gillian

Dave Wearing - AltLd O/S - 07/Oct/06 with asutton709

Hidden - AltLd - 07/Oct/06

Hidden - 2nd - 03/Jul/99

My 100th climb in North Wales, done on a misty day with a bottle of Bollinger grande anne to share at the top.
Ian Archer - AltLd O/S - 09/May/98 with Danny Hale

Users with this climb on their wishlist are:
Hidden, Hidden, Hidden, Tom Hecht, mattrm, fozzybear, Hidden, Warren Earle, Hidden, Simon Caldwell

Total votes cast 12
hard HVD0 of 5
HVD0 of 5
easy HVD0 of 5
hard VD1 of 5
VD4 of 5
easy VD0 of 5
hard HD0 of 5
HD0 of 5
easy HD0 of 5
3 Stars0 of 7
2 Stars2 of 7
1 Star0 of 7
0 Stars2 of 7
Bag of .....3 of 7
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Style of ascent

Soloed2 of 27 (7.4%)
Lead5 of 27 (18.5%)
Followed3 of 27 (11.1%)
Alt Leads16 of 27 (59.3%)
Unknown1 of 27 (3.7%)

'Climbed'13 of 27 (48.1%)
clean O/S14 of 27 (51.9%)