Nearly onsighted it, but hit the wrong bit of the shelf. Then took a couple of goes to remember how to get off the ground. I really think this is one of the best problems in the moors, good effort Mike on getting it done. Watching Mike's video on my return from doing it and it appears he's a giant! God knows how he reached through his sequence. A jump seems to simplify things somewhat and makes it possible for anyone sub 6ft 6'! Franco Cookson - Sent x - 07/Jul/12 with Chubby Sam, Dave Warburton