Dives/Better Things*** VS 4b
[On the Cromlech, the superb Dives/Better Things., 3 kb]60m, 2 pitches.

Rockfax Description
A top-class route with a thrilling finale. Start below the left-hand end of a diagonal roof at 18m, below a steep crack.
1) 4a, 25m. Move up to the steep crack, which in turn gives access to a rightward traverse on pocketed rock beneath the large roof (often wet). Belay at the ledges known as The Forest.
2) 4b, 24m. Traverse out leftwards onto the steeper wall for a few metres to reach the superb corner-crack and follow it to an exciting last move. © ROCKFAX

UKC Logbook Description
Climb overhanging wall on good jugs. Traverse right following horizontal crack to slab belay. climb corner crack with excellent bridging to top incorporating short slab

Ticklists: Connoisseur's Classic Rock, North Wales Rock Graded List, 50 Best HS Routes in the UK., North Wales 100 Classic Climbs, North wales road to ruins HVS.

Photo: On the Cromlech, the superb Dives/Better Things. © allysingo
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This climb is in 752 logbooks, and on 79 wishlists.

Hidden - AltLd O/S - 17/Aug/15

Michelle led first pitch of sabre cut then I did top pitch of this. Good route, fun in the corner.
kermit_uk - AltLd O/S - 18/Jul/15 with Michelle

PeteMc - AltLd - 11/Jul/15 with Tom French

tom0french - AltLd O/S - 11/Jul/15 with Pete McNamee

noemie5438 - AltLd O/S - 10/Jul/15 with Mark

Ian Stirrups - AltLd - 10/Jul/15 with Sue

Ian Stirrups - AltLd - 10/Jul/15 with Sue

Hidden - AltLd O/S - 10/Jul/15

Brendan - Lead O/S - 04/Jul/15

Tom lead the first pitch and I lead the second. Absolutely beautiful corner line with a bit of everything!
omaskrey - AltLd O/S - 27/Jun/15 with Tom Williams

Jack Manfredi - AltLd - 27/Jun/15

twill - AltLd O/S - 27/Jun/15 with Oli Maskrey

chris fox - AltLd O/S - 25/Jun/15

pitch 2 - very exciting. HS in guidebook.
catrin289 - AltLd O/S - 23/Jun/15 with Rona

P1 only
Gav Williams - 2nd - 19/Jun/15 with Julian Lane

Dives only as then did P2 of Sabre Cut - an excellent combo.
Jules Lane - Lead O/S - 19/Jun/15 with Mynydd Gavin

Fragmod - Lead - 16/Jun/15

wi11 - Solo O/S - 15/Jun/15

On a guided day with Libby Peters. Fantastic route. The 2nd pitch is awesome. great exposure
minty1984 - 2nd O/S - 15/Jun/15

pearson9596 - AltLd O/S - 14/Jun/15 with Tom Veness

thomas.veness - AltLd O/S - 14/Jun/15 with pearson9596

saraguti - Lead - 13/Jun/15 with rick sewards

very nice :)
JamesWilliams - 2nd O/S - 12/Jun/15 with bunney, beckyjg

Only the first pitch was climbed - I'll be back!
Ceriii - 2nd dnf - 11/Jun/15 with Adam

beckyjg - 2nd - 10/Jun/15

stuc - AltLd O/S - 09/Jun/15 with Dutch

Hidden - AltLd - 09/Jun/15

Hidden - AltLd - 09/Jun/15

esther - Lead - Jun/15

lead both in hail and a fair bith of wind, felt quite hard and tried to climb as a party of four which didnt work out too well!
chris cockbain - Lead O/S - 31/May/15 with tom draude

Nearly had a mountain rescue on this one. 2nd pitch says 25m. We assumed our 35m rope would be enough. Apparently not!!! Leader went up, tail got shorter and shorter. Wind and rock faces destroyed any contact with leader despite using radios and shouting as loud as possible. Add to that it started hailing. Had to tie a sling to tip of climbing rope to connect to my harness. Not best practice but as needs must! No idea where those extra 10m went?!?! A figure 8 and a clove hitch doesnt take 10m of rope. Actual climbing was nice though.
Alex Mynard - 2nd O/S - 31/May/15 with Chris Cockbain

Tom Draude - 2nd dnf - 31/May/15 with Chris Cockbain

Alasdair88 - Lead O/S - 27/May/15 with Ben and Gav

Very wet on the first pitch traverse but a superb and well protected final pitch.
rockcat - Lead G/U - 21/May/15 with Chris Klotz, Mad Mag

Looked very steep but the holds were there. My second climb in the Pass.
magsb - 2nd O/S - 21/May/15 with CK, Mike Doyle

Lead 2nd pitch, Katie lead 1st
Steve Shorrock - AltLd O/S - 16/May/15 with Katie Towers

katiet - AltLd O/S - 16/May/15 with Steve Shorrock

Great climbing. Stella had a big smile on her face and climbed really well.
leethebee - AltLd - 15/May/15 with Stella Wyn Thomas

I Led pitch 2. Amazing evening with a great old friend.
Denry - AltLd O/S - 22/Apr/15 with Nikki McArthur

ADConway - AltLd O/S - 20/Apr/15 with Andrei

mzk - 20/Apr/15

Awesome climbing, steep but juggy.
JoeCoxson - 2nd O/S - 16/Apr/15 with Aidan Chitty

Lead p1, 2nd p2
Wendy Watthews - AltLd O/S - 16/Apr/15 with Jake Bailey

Hidden - AltLd O/S - 16/Apr/15

aidanchitty - Lead - 16/Apr/15

Continuing a fab 5th day on the PYB "Moving Out" course. Another great route.
JenShelley - 2nd - 10/Apr/15

Hidden - Lead rpt - 08/Apr/15

acollins615 - AltLd O/S - 05/Apr/15 with Francis Hardy

Charleston - 2nd - Apr/15

AndrewP - AltLd O/S - 22/Mar/15 with Andrew Pocklington

odari - 21/Mar/15

Lead first pitch, second pitch is simply awesome. What a route.
aljones91 - AltLd O/S - 12/Oct/14 with Ben hester

philgillespie - AltLd - 26/Sep/14

mjeffery - 2nd O/S - 22/Sep/14

largejason - AltLd O/S - 22/Sep/14

Hidden - 2nd O/S - 21/Sep/14

Did it in one pitch, maybe not the best idea retrospectively. Still great climbing!
GermanAlex - Lead O/S - 21/Sep/14

Pero - Lead - 21/Sep/14

jezb1 - Lead - 12/Sep/14

Hidden - AltLd O/S - 09/Sep/14

WeeLee - AltLd O/S - 09/Sep/14 with Andy England

Hidden - AltLd O/S - 05/Sep/14

Led first pitch. Absolutely great climb. Both pitches maitained interest through. Wonderful position up the final groove.
ralphio - AltLd O/S - 04/Sep/14 with Maumau

Hidden - AltLd O/S - 03/Sep/14

handofgod - 2nd O/S - Sep/14

Kris2fa - Lead O/S - Sep/14

corinrathbone - 2nd O/S - 27/Aug/14 with Guy Thompson

BTphonehome - Lead O/S - 24/Aug/14 with Kasha

kasha_gregson - 2nd O/S - 24/Aug/14

Hidden - AltLd O/S - 15/Aug/14

Started on Spiral Stairs and finised on Better Things as the light was dying fast
K Dawg - Lead - 14/Aug/14 with Kit

leethebee - AltLd β - 09/Aug/14 with Richard Howarth

HB-Pencil - 2nd O/S - 08/Aug/14

Melonfly - 2nd O/S - 07/Aug/14 with Caleb

First pitch crossed the slab low to avoid wet bits. Second pitch was old skool hard but awesome! Great introduction to the pass
Kemics - Lead O/S - 07/Aug/14 with Mel

Well worth a revisit after 38 years.
Brian Wilderspin - AltLd - 04/Aug/14 with Steve Clegg

toomanytims - Lead O/S - 04/Aug/14 with Jedmo

carl_123 - Lead rpt - 29/Jul/14

Lead pitch 2
Rich K - AltLd - 20/Jul/14

MD - AltLd O/S - 29/Jun/14 with Jo

Led p1. P2 gives value for money!
Happy Wanderer - AltLd O/S - 29/Jun/14 with Mike D

Very hungover!
Dizz - Lead O/S - 29/Jun/14 with sara abed

much harder than a HS
mistymarsh - 2nd - 28/Jun/14

second pitch hard for a HS
mistymarsh - 28/Jun/14

Nigel Coe - AltLd - 24/Jun/14 with Pete Kelly

Really enjoyed this. Led P1 which was great, and non-trivial for 4a. Nadir took P2 which had lovely 3D climbing, superb bridging and jamming. Fab route.
ChrisBrooke - AltLd O/S - 22/Jun/14 with Nadir Khan

jack 9895 - AltLd O/S - 20/Jun/14

Hidden - Lead O/S - 20/Jun/14

Hidden - Lead O/S - 19/Jun/14

Seconded first pitch of this, then we accidentally ended up on Sabre Cut!
charlielow - 2nd dnf - 18/Jun/14 with Ellie Fuller

P1 was good, then foolishly ended up on Sabre Cut.
Ella7 - Lead dnf - 18/Jun/14 with charlielow

Awesome, what a finish
PaulFidler - 2nd O/S - 17/Jun/14

erbridger - AltLd - 17/Jun/14 with Kate Edhouse

Kate Edhouse - AltLd O/S - 17/Jun/14 with Emily

Mowglee - AltLd O/S - 17/Jun/14 with Ali

daxtari - AltLd O/S - 17/Jun/14

Hidden - AltLd - 16/Jun/14

Hidden - Lead - 14/Jun/14

RW P2 fab! P1 of Sabre, more in keeping, good overall.
ColinD - AltLd - 14/Jun/14 with Richard Wheeldon

Senna - Lead O/S - 14/Jun/14

Hidden - AltLd O/S - 11/Jun/14

Hidden - AltLd O/S - Jun/14

alaster tonge - Lead O/S - 30/May/14 with Lailah, Assad Lahlou

Hidden - 2nd O/S - 21/May/14

Hidden - AltLd - 17/May/14

Very nice route, led the little p2 and built my first semi-hanging belay.
oddtoast - AltLd - 17/May/14 with Gav

Hidden - AltLd O/S - 17/May/14

steve_gibbs - AltLd O/S - 17/May/14 with Ollie Stevens

Led last pitch.
cem - AltLd O/S - 16/May/14 with Pero Kalugerovich

Hidden - AltLd - 15/May/14

One of the best HS climbs that I have done. Hard for the grade though.
Big Lee - AltLd O/S - 05/May/14 with Lawrence Dudley

Tom Redmond - AltLd O/S - 02/May/14 with joe cossey

chancer - AltLd O/S - 02/May/14 with Fraser Campbell

Brilliant exposed corner climb. Quite strenuous, more like VS
Mike Hewitt - Lead O/S - May/14

Bede - Lead - 19/Apr/14 with Tony Smith, Claire Heenan

pravski - Lead - 16/Apr/14

deejmonkey - AltLd - 13/Apr/14 with Damian

Daymo - AltLd - 13/Apr/14 with DJ

Hidden - 2014

Hidden - 2014

Si - 2014

mike mo - 2014

IanGilbertJones - 2014

Alfie Conn - 2014

Allanfairfechan - 2014

Led p1. Y found the harder p2 very difficult, took about 3 hours.
Edvenables - AltLd O/S - 2014 with Ye Seul

Dan Hostford - Lead O/S - 30/Nov/13 with Fudge

Hidden - AltLd O/S - 09/Nov/13

Hidden - 2nd - 09/Nov/13

tcn_2002 - AltLd - 09/Nov/13

Hidden - Lead O/S - 09/Nov/13

Excellent climb - positive holds wherever you need them. Glorious!
Pete_Frost - Solo rpt - 28/Sep/13

Dan Vaj - AltLd O/S - 22/Sep/13 with Neil Prickett

NeilPrickett - AltLd O/S - 22/Sep/13 with Dan Vaj

Second multipitch route. First overhang bit was nice. Traverse, which was wet, was a whole manner of horrors, even seconding, due to massive swing potential. Had mild panic attack changing over at the belay (first time doing all the faffy unclippy stuff), but second pitch then went fine. Lots of nice reach moves.
AndyPagett - 2nd O/S - 14/Sep/13 with Maia Hunnex

Hidden - Lead O/S - 14/Sep/13

Pitch 2
watson.b - AltLd O/S - 01/Sep/13 with Mark

Hidden - 31/Aug/13

Lead pitch 2
Julie Carroll - AltLd O/S - 03/Aug/13 with Tristan Graham

Hidden - AltLd O/S - 27/Jul/13

Sarah Welsh - Lead O/S - 14/Jul/13 with Emma Grant

Hidden - 2nd - 14/Jul/13

Hidden - 2nd - 08/Jul/13

Hidden - Lead - 07/Jul/13

Led all pitches. Superb
adam clarke - Lead O/S - 06/Jul/13 with Adam Lynch

JDG2428 - AltLd O/S - 06/Jul/13

Sam Simpson - AltLd O/S - 05/Jul/13 with Ally Hurst

Hidden - AltLd O/S - 05/Jul/13

paulmck - Lead - 05/Jul/13 with Kat Crocker

jack adams - AltLd O/S - Jul/13 with craig lukins

ifletcher - 2nd O/S - 25/Jun/13 with Daniel Geh, tgeh

tgeh - AltLd O/S - 25/Jun/13 with imogene, dan geh

Dan Geh - AltLd O/S - 25/Jun/13 with ifletcher, Thomas Geh

matt0759 - Lead - 21/Jun/13 with Chris Barnes

Barnsey007 - 2nd - 21/Jun/13 with rich

Hidden - AltLd - 18/Jun/13

Hidden - AltLd O/S - 18/Jun/13

Lead second pitch.
Nigel R Lewis - AltLd - 18/Jun/13 with Steve Kedward

Lead in two pitches. Amazing final pitch. Plenty of protection throughout.
inspiration_needed - Lead O/S - 08/Jun/13 with Mat Cooper

SimonvanDam - AltLd - 08/Jun/13 with Becky

Lead 2nd pitch
Bert - Lead O/S - 08/Jun/13

Led P1 and P3. Quite steep P1 for HS. Quite thin on the corner crack. Hard for HS overall. Brilliant route though.
Skinny Kin - AltLd O/S - 06/Jun/13 with Steve Gandy

Excellent route-well worth 3 stars.
bobpilgrem - AltLd O/S - 04/Jun/13 with Bob/Nic

Hidden - AltLd O/S - 02/Jun/13

Hidden - AltLd O/S - 02/Jun/13

BeckyS - 2nd - 01/Jun/13

JenRoberts - 2nd O/S - 31/May/13 with Lee

ali macphee - AltLd O/S - 26/May/13

carl_123 - AltLd O/S - 26/May/13

ashtond6 - AltLd - 25/May/13 with Anna Paxton

Led final pitch, bottomless groove quite exposed, well protected, scary for me but v pleased with lead
alp79 - AltLd O/S - 25/May/13 with Jonny Ashton

The second pitch is the best HS I've climbed. Don't belay too high in The Forest!
Matt77 - 2nd - 25/May/13

tolly_60 - Lead O/S - 25/May/13

Hidden - AltLd O/S - 19/May/13

DaveAtkinson - AltLd - 19/May/13 with jw

What a great route! Fantastic throughout.
thecurlyone - AltLd O/S - 07/May/13 with Cordelia Molloy

Didn't go particularly smoothly but had fun.
augustus trout - AltLd O/S - 06/May/13 with Kevin Anderson

Hidden - AltLd - 06/May/13

Hidden - 02/May/13

jezb1 - AltLd - 02/May/13

leeoftroy - Lead O/S - May/13

RyanOsborne - AltLd - 27/Apr/13

Bex_M - AltLd β - 25/Apr/13 with Gianluca

Dan724 - AltLd O/S - 07/Apr/13 with Dan Ely

dan ely - AltLd rpt - 07/Apr/13 with dan

lead pitch 2. climbing as a three with Paul. Lovely route, well protected.
islandlynx - AltLd O/S - Apr/13 with Ryan

Managed to get off route (again), and lead a harder pitch than I had anticipated.
DanielGyi - AltLd O/S - 03/Mar/13 with Kyle Wilson

Hidden - AltLd O/S - 03/Mar/13

tim20 - 2013

DubyaJamesDubya - 2013

Jonesdben - 2013

Led P1, in my haste went a bit high and set up a belay at the forest, so when Z came up we carried on up Sabre Cut unknowingly. Great route tho! Well enjoyed! Good effort for Z on her first outdoor route!
Matthew Edwards - Lead O/S - 18/Nov/12 with Zeanne Thomas

Hidden - 2nd O/S - 18/Nov/12

Fantastic second pitch. Airy, fairly well protected bridging with a great view downwards.
LP - Lead O/S - 26/Oct/12

Great route, amazing view, incredibly scary.
GuitarGenius92 - AltLd O/S - 07/Oct/12 with Andrew Wilkins

windle - Lead O/S - 07/Oct/12

Hidden - AltLd O/S - 06/Oct/12

dale 42 - 2nd O/S - 21/Sep/12

Hidden - AltLd O/S - 15/Sep/12

Hidden - AltLd - 15/Sep/12

Ray Sparks - AltLd O/S - 09/Sep/12 with pete ranstead

Stone Muppet - 2nd - 07/Sep/12 with tl

Led pitches 1 and 3
mrginna - AltLd - 05/Sep/12 with Jack Bramhall

jack01 - AltLd O/S - 05/Sep/12 with lan

jayyaj - 2nd - Sep/12 with Pete Ranstead

georgedunton - Lead O/S - 16/Aug/12

me 1st, neil 2nd
herrettscott - AltLd O/S - 01/Aug/12 with Neil Mc

Pitch one, then up Sabre Cut
partz - AltLd O/S - 25/Jul/12 with Alex Battery

finished up sabre cut. fun for first lead
sparkybatteryboy - AltLd - 25/Jul/12 with matt e

rbharries - 2nd O/S - 05/Jul/12 with Greg Edwards

kristinawe - AltLd - 20/Jun/12

Stone Muppet - Lead O/S - 28/May/12

Brilliant climb, top pitch is steep and sustained but well protected traverse on P1 was damp, lost a sling that got well and truly stuck at the top
CM1992 - Lead - 21/May/12 with Matt Randall

1st few moves up the crack on the 1st pitch seemed a little spicy for hs 4b but real fun and safe. top of 1st pitch also a little spicy when its completley sodden! great fun climb,.
vertically_challenged - AltLd O/S - 16/May/12

I led pitch 1 of Dives then belayed much further up forest ledge so I could photograph Carolyn on Cemetery Gates. Steve led P2 of Sabre Cut. Hailstorm just as we topped out!
stratandrew - AltLd O/S - 06/May/12 with Steve Graham

P1 only, then P2 of Sabre Cut.
StevieG_7 - 2nd O/S - 06/May/12 with Andy Stratford

Led first pitch, ended on sabre cut
namagnall - AltLd - 14/Apr/12

Lead 1st pitch clean onsight Attempted 2nd pitch but rain called for top roping out
daniel.loram - AltLd O/S - 14/Apr/12 with Jamie Talbot, Chris Thain

mynyddresident - AltLd - 29/Mar/12 with wolf

wolf.leeb - AltLd O/S - 29/Mar/12 with nic

stargazer85 - AltLd - 25/Mar/12 with Matt Keyse

Hidden - AltLd O/S - 25/Mar/12

Hidden - AltLd O/S - 25/Mar/12

Hidden - AltLd O/S - 25/Mar/12

Michael Allday - Lead O/S - 24/Mar/12 with Ellie Barker

Stroppy - Lead O/S - 19/Mar/12 with Ray Wilde, Fiona Adie

Ben0591 - Lead O/S - 14/Mar/12 with Oliver Grant

ojgrant - AltLd - 14/Mar/12 with Ben Humphreys

Anna's second multi pitch and first full weekend climbing. I lead the whole route. Split the third pitch into two pitches so I could talk Anna threw the whole experience. Think if I had of linked pitch 2 and 3 she might not be talking to me now. We both really enjoyed the climb ace route good exposer. Even if Anna did have a little jibber. A big experience with the whole getting down. There was alot of rope work involved for me. Top day great weather.
Dale - Lead O/S - Mar/12 with Anna

CashaJones - 2nd β - 2012

Al Evans - Lead - 2012

pasbury - 2012

Hidden - 2012

Hidden - 2012

LP - 2012

Hidden - Lead - 2012

Seconded both pitches. P2 was a bit cheeky for hs 4b.
jezb1 - 2nd - 05/Nov/11

A really enjoyable climb with tricky (esp. For hs 4b) 2nd pitch. The traverse under right leading diagonal overhang had some thread protection made me much happier crossing the slippy wet seepage on rock. Corner crack felt quite traditional/jam and thrutch a bit, not so elegant.
lizzyb - Lead O/S - 05/Nov/11 with Jez

isi_o - AltLd - 05/Nov/11 with Patrick

Better things only. Accessed from first pitch of spiral stairs. Layback in second half challenging.
PeteWE - 2nd dog - 05/Nov/11

FrenchOlly - Lead O/S - Nov/11

pete_fewings - Lead O/S - 15/Oct/11

Gazleah - Lead O/S - 15/Oct/11 with joey gilham

I led pitches 2&3. Pitch 3 is awesome, but traverse on first pitch was v slimy & wet
Fiona McFarlane - AltLd - 25/Sep/11 with Helen King

Did in 2 pitches, me lower, Muny upper. p2 Seemed a bit tough for 4b, but then I wasnt at the peak of my powers.
PaulWatson - AltLd O/S - 15/Sep/11 with Muny

mrmoe17 - 2nd O/S - 15/Sep/11

Hidden - Lead - 01/Sep/11

Hidden - Lead - 01/Sep/11

Snook in a route. Chris did the first and cracking third. Fabulous evening up in the pass. Alison had her trip up Snowdon the same day - wonderful.
mikehenesy - AltLd rpt - 01/Sep/11 with Chris Lodge

An afternoon ascent in perfect conditions. Superb!
Falko - Lead rpt - 31/Aug/11 with Jonathan Rech

djdavies - 2nd - 17/Aug/11

jon_ridley - 2nd O/S - 15/Aug/11 with Gavin Oliver

awesome climb, really enjoyed the crack
groliver26 - Lead O/S - 15/Aug/11 with Jon Ridley

Hidden - AltLd - Aug/11

Teappleby - AltLd - Aug/11 with Pete Hall

Hidden - AltLd - 26/Jul/11

Hidden - AltLd O/S - 26/Jul/11

lead 2nd pitch @ 4B. With joe and soph, n.Wales trip.
ClareM.123 - AltLd - 26/Jul/11

joem - AltLd O/S - 26/Jul/11

mfisher - AltLd O/S - 25/Jul/11 with Tom Keaveny

led last pitch
Tom Keaveny - AltLd O/S - 25/Jul/11 with mfisher

Lenny - AltLd O/S - 24/Jul/11 with John

Hidden - AltLd O/S - 24/Jul/11

Jonathan Spooner - Lead O/S - 15/Jul/11 with Mike Smithy

Done in 2 pitch's, led 1st.
Smithy Smith - AltLd O/S - 13/Jul/11 with Jonathan Spooner

R 1st pitch, v wet, L 2nd/3rd. Corner crack is fantastic.
liamnkaz - AltLd O/S - 10/Jul/11 with Richard L

Led p3, Pete led p1 & 2 in one go, sopping wet
Blurgy319 - AltLd rpt - 10/Jul/11 with Peter Williams

R 1st pitch, L 2nd
Richard L - AltLd O/S - 10/Jul/11 with Liam

Hidden - Lead O/S - 10/Jul/11

What a fantastic route! P1 was me, then Al led the brilliant second pitch. Intimidating for a Hard Severe, but never hard if you don't get too involved in the crack.
embob - AltLd - 03/Jul/11 with Alex

Hidden - AltLd - 03/Jul/11

Hidden - Lead - 02/Jul/11

Seconded first pitch
daveyji - 2nd - Jul/11 with Linda Williamson

yorkyrmcdo - Lead O/S - 28/Jun/11 with woody

Hidden - AltLd O/S - 19/Jun/11

Hidden - 2nd O/S - Jun/11

chrism225 - Lead O/S - 28/May/11 with Molly

Lead 1st, & 3rd pitches. 1st pitch below overhang was very wet and slimy.
Paul-Michael - AltLd O/S - 14/May/11 with Diccon Proctor

Hidden - AltLd O/S - 01/May/11

Hidden - AltLd - May/11

Great route! Lead P2 which I totally trashed myself on even though the climbing was easy (4b fair) and the gear good. The exposure, wind and big mountain feel can make it seem harder if you are used to 10m gritstone pitches...
adamwesthead - AltLd O/S - 28/Apr/11 with Denzil, Hoult

Lead the 1st and final pitches (was very windy by then), heather lead the middle pitch
skittles - AltLd O/S - 28/Apr/11 with Heather Williams

Denzil Gunner - 2nd O/S - 28/Apr/11 with Nick, Adam

dan ely - 2nd O/S - 25/Apr/11 with terry

Me P2, wow!
Ceridwen - AltLd O/S - 25/Apr/11 with Phil

Hidden - Lead O/S - 25/Apr/11

Luke Brooks - AltLd - 21/Apr/11 with Neil Pope

led p1
JohnBear - AltLd - 20/Apr/11 with Bweakers

matty123 - AltLd O/S - 20/Apr/11 with John Niven

matjam - AltLd - 19/Apr/11

greglad - 19/Apr/11

Such a good route. tough for HS
willoates - AltLd rpt - 17/Apr/11 with Dan Lane

P1. Brilliant route, but pretty hard for the grade.
Dan Lane - AltLd O/S - 17/Apr/11 with Will Oates

centurion05 - 2nd - 10/Apr/11

Blurgy319 - 2nd O/S - 10/Apr/11 with Danny Dunbar, Andy Woolston

lindsam - AltLd - 10/Apr/11 with Mike Mason

Hidden - Lead O/S - 10/Apr/11

Matt ran the first pitch into two, and I led the top pitch. Pretty glorious position with lovely moves. Shame my head wasn't quite in it!
DKaye - AltLd O/S - 09/Apr/11 with Matt Ringrose

hazeysunshine - AltLd - 09/Apr/11 with Ann-Marie

Pitch 1 - fun, wet slab made for an interesting traverse. Pitch 3 - strenuous, but the footholds and gear are there. Glad to top out and enjoy the view. I was running low on large protection!
Martin Lilley - Lead O/S - 06/Apr/11 with Charlotte G

neillkelly - AltLd - 06/Apr/11

1st pitch not to easy but also not that hard.. 2nd pitch not so much hard but more technical up the crack.. really enjoyable and well protected..
jade - Apr/11

Hidden - Lead O/S - Apr/11

jchenoweth - Lead O/S - 27/Mar/11

dansmonkeytroubles - Lead O/S - 26/Mar/11 with Stef Schuermans

Led pitches 2 and 3 together. An absorbing corner crack!
Katex - AltLd O/S - 25/Mar/11 with Simon Edwards

first pitch, then down vclimbed
barni - Lead rpt - 23/Mar/11 with Liam fleming

Led 1st pitch then went off route to the 2nd pitch of Sabre cut, will return and do it properly.
hfac - Lead dnf - 06/Mar/11

Josh_West - 2nd - 06/Mar/11

Will O' T'' North - 2nd - 06/Mar/11

Griff1990 - 2nd O/S - 06/Mar/11 with George Stevens, Adrian Chan

ClareM.123 - AltLd - 2011

pete_fewings - Lead O/S - 2011

Hidden - 2011

lead p1, second p2, very steep p2
peua57 - Lead - 2011

Hidden - 2011

uphillnow - 2011

Hidden - 2011

Hidden - 2011

Hidden - 2011

PAJames - 2011

PAJames - 2011

Hidden - 2011

Ian Andrews - AltLd O/S - 2011 with Gary, Martin Worthy

cymjt - 2011

Hidden - AltLd O/S - 2011

Ieuan - Lead O/S - 16/Oct/10

griff90 - 2nd O/S - 16/Oct/10

APuddy - Lead O/S - 10/Oct/10

Wet, and off route. seemed difficult for the grade (probably because we were off route). Next time I'm double checking the guide :P in any event it was fun.
jayrenegade - AltLd O/S - 12/Sep/10 with Luke

Lovely, lovely lovely. I led p2 - awesome line. Heavens opened as Jerry topped out so we abbed down to the right of Sabre Cut.
Richard Gilbert - AltLd O/S - 05/Sep/10 with Jerry Ostrowski

Noodles - Lead - 03/Sep/10 with Jill Reinsch

Jillybean - AltLd - 03/Sep/10 with Martyn

jamie came to some minor grief early on with a crack line short changed by its lowly grade. needless to say, he pushed through it with seeming ease after mustering the confidence requisite to have a go at an unlikely looking move. i took the lead and made haste to the wrong bloody crack. didnt have the stomach for the line (awesome though it was, a MUST do.)in the damp conditions so came back down and got myself back on route. so came to pass a good half hour of fabulous climbing! just kept getting cooler. set up belay on a lovely sofa shaped boulder but Jamie arrived all to quickly. he'd had a long belay so i suspected some frustration might be setting in. not a bit of it.
lukas richardo - AltLd O/S - Sep/10 with jamie

Hidden - AltLd - 28/Aug/10

edpd1b - AltLd O/S - 27/Aug/10 with Kelly Hillyer

Harri777 - 2nd - 15/Aug/10 with Naomi

Traverse on 1st pitch made far more technical as sopping & slimy. Beautiful 2nd pitch- if you remember to bridge & look behind you- there are always very good holds.
NB Pixel - Lead O/S - 15/Aug/10 with Harri!

crag_monster - AltLd - Aug/10 with murphydave

Hidden - AltLd O/S - 11/Jul/10

Fantastic outing at this grade, great moves and fine positions, deserves it's stars.
LoopyLou - AltLd O/S - 03/Jul/10 with Alison Cairns

pawelx - AltLd O/S - 27/Jun/10

PanzerHanzler - AltLd rpt - 26/Jun/10 with Ala Piatkowska, Martin Stevens

Ala lead p1, her 1st HS and 1st 4a lead. Andy led p2. Fantastic.
Martin Stevens - 2nd rpt - 26/Jun/10 with Ala P., Andy H.

Hidden - Lead O/S - 21/Jun/10

Hidden - AltLd - 20/Jun/10

Great climb Especially second pitch!!
vinspin - 2nd O/S - 18/Jun/10 with andy

good second pitch
andybenham - AltLd O/S - 18/Jun/10 with Gareth Hayfield

Lead pitch 2. Just keep bridging.
Gareth - AltLd O/S - 18/Jun/10 with Andrew

Hidden - Lead O/S - 18/Jun/10

Chick led pitch 1 & Will led 2nd
John Roe - 2nd - 16/Jun/10 with Will Marshall, Martin Chick

Tim Ducker - AltLd O/S - 15/Jun/10 with Jack Turner

Hidden - 2nd O/S - 15/Jun/10

led 1st pitch, amazing second pitch.
Webster - AltLd O/S - 15/Jun/10

Elizabeth Noyes - 2nd O/S - 15/Jun/10

Led 1st pitch but went of route and finished on Sabre Cut! went back afterwards and did the route properly Pete led 1st Pitch and I did 2nd.
Richie Rich - Lead O/S - 12/Jun/10 with Pete Colley

Hidden - AltLd O/S - 03/Jun/10

Hidden - AltLd - 03/Jun/10

Graham Westbrook - AltLd - Jun/10

Hidden - Jun/10

Lead first pitch comfortably but bottled it on second pitch. Climbing was brilliant up until you have to start bridging out. Was running out of gear, getting tired and starting to panic - never a good combination! So was lowered off and pulled the rope to set up an abseil. Turned into a bit of an epic here. Rop got stuck and belay point was getting very crowded with a couple coming up behind us. Fortunately this meant they could free our rope and retrieve the gear I'd had to leave. Will definitely repeat this-with more gear and a calmer head.
samcook - Lead dnf - 31/May/10 with Leo Davis, Chris Roo

Hidden - 2nd dnf - 31/May/10

Hidden - Lead - 23/May/10

Hidden - 2nd - 23/May/10

Great fun leading on P2
Sardien - AltLd O/S - 22/May/10 with Simon Moore

PaulHarris - AltLd - 22/May/10

PaulHarris - AltLd - 22/May/10 with John, Simon, Micheal

Brilliant day, took 13 years to get back on this after failure in 97!
richardr - Lead O/S - 21/May/10

Hidden - 2nd O/S - 21/May/10

Led top pitch, superb route!
Cardi - AltLd O/S - 19/May/10 with Pete D

Aufton - AltLd O/S - 16/May/10 with Tim Howarth

This time I led first pitch (wet) and Ian led second.
bigbobbyking - AltLd rpt - 16/May/10 with Ian Faulkner

ian d f - AltLd O/S - 16/May/10 with Robert King

we had sun / rain / snow during our time on this route. Excellent route with varied climbing on excellent holds throughout. interesting jamming crack to finish up.
andy dunn - AltLd O/S - 12/May/10 with Tom

Bennykr - Lead O/S - 03/May/10 with Dad

Hidden - AltLd dnf - 03/May/10

Leo Woodhead - AltLd O/S - 02/May/10 with Patrick Rainbird

I lead p1, p3. Excellent.
Martin Stevens - AltLd O/S - 01/May/10 with Mervyn L.

Hidden - AltLd O/S - 18/Apr/10

Lead P2
Sankey - AltLd - 18/Apr/10 with Jon

jshields - AltLd - 18/Apr/10 with Steve Ebbens

Bex_M - Lead O/S - 18/Apr/10 with Claire Ellwood

Si dH - AltLd rpt - 13/Apr/10 with Robin Macintosh

Hidden - 2nd - 10/Apr/10

Tom Vivian - Lead - 10/Apr/10 with Paul Barlow

twodada - AltLd O/S - 21/Mar/10 with Mike Robinson

Very damp and slippy.
NatD - Lead O/S - 19/Mar/10

Hidden - Lead O/S - 07/Mar/10

Hidden - 2nd O/S - 07/Mar/10

justin burgoyne - Lead O/S - Mar/10

Liz led P1 and I led P2. Lovely route. Bold and exposed in places but steady. First Pass lead.
CharlotteJelleyman - AltLd O/S - 07/Feb/10 with Lizzy Andrew

Lizzy Andrew - AltLd O/S - 07/Feb/10 with Charlotte Jelleyman

In Dachsteins
theotherpetehill - Lead O/S - 07/Feb/10

Laura-lou - 2nd - 06/Feb/10 with Toaf, Chink

Hidden - AltLd O/S - Feb/10

willoates - 2nd O/S - 2010 with Olly Sanders, Steve

alancash100 - AltLd - 2010

DuckingFesperate - Lead - 2010

Hidden - 2010

mcgrathr - 2010

Liam FLeming - Lead - 17/Oct/09 with karen dalzell

Hidden - 13/Oct/09

Hidden - AltLd O/S - 04/Oct/09

Lead 1st pitch. Good route.
tdudley - AltLd O/S - 04/Oct/09 with Dave Sperring

mariannekhoo - 2nd O/S - 27/Sep/09 with Sarah Bayley

Hidden - AltLd - 26/Sep/09

Slick - AltLd - 26/Sep/09 with Isabel Evans

Hidden - Lead - 26/Sep/09

1st and 3rd pitch
BallsOfSteel - AltLd O/S - 25/Sep/09 with Helen Rennard

Hidden - 2nd O/S - 23/Sep/09

after many years revisiting this hard severe test piece gave me a good indication of where my leading head was - the final pitch is steady - don't get frit by the airy corner
bob johnson - AltLd - 20/Sep/09

After the belay, we stepped right (above the overhang) and climbed the HVS finish. I lead the first pitch. Steep at the start and polished at the top. Easy for its grade if your a good VS climber or above.
jimbomann - AltLd O/S - 19/Sep/09 with Andrew Bevan

ritchierich - 2nd rpt - 14/Sep/09 with groovy_nut, Bob Dickson

groovy_nut - AltLd O/S - 14/Sep/09 with Bob, Ritchie

DanH9883 - AltLd O/S - 12/Sep/09 with Raho, Lee

peggy_on_the_rocks - 2nd β - 12/Sep/09 with DanH9883

Hidden - 2nd - 25/Aug/09

Hidden - Lead O/S - 24/Aug/09

blueroly - 2nd O/S - 14/Aug/09 with Oleg Makarov

sgl0jd - AltLd - 06/Aug/09 with Luke

Hidden - AltLd O/S - 06/Aug/09

fizzychewitt - AltLd - 06/Aug/09 with Dan

Hidden - AltLd O/S - 05/Aug/09

JulesV - AltLd O/S - 02/Aug/09 with Shauna Cunningham

Led 1st pitch only. Finished up 2nd pitch of Sabre Cut
climbing_wiggy - Lead O/S - 02/Aug/09 with Paul Cox

Shauna - AltLd - 01/Aug/09 with Jules

Hidden - AltLd O/S - 20/Jul/09

Hidden - AltLd O/S - 29/Jun/09

2 pitches as a 3 with Nora Smith in the middle. Coin toss gives Greg the lead on excellent second pitch...
timcussins - AltLd O/S - 29/Jun/09 with Greg

With Tim & Nora. I won the toss & made hard work out of the awesome second pitch.
gregoldridge - AltLd O/S - 29/Jun/09 with Tim Cussins

Hidden - AltLd O/S - 25/Jun/09

awesome top pitch!!
adam06 - AltLd - 16/Jun/09 with Hilary Theaker

DrJon - 2nd O/S - 15/Jun/09 with Dave Walsh & Pete

After attempting this route years ago and ending up on Sabre Cut way before leading at that grade. I finally realised the error of my ways and went back to finish off on Better Things. Well worth seeking out, a stunning final pitch in an elevated position with nice moves.
jimshrimp - Lead O/S - 08/Jun/09

Hidden - 2nd - 07/Jun/09

Hidden - AltLd O/S - 04/Jun/09

MR Summer cse
John Roe - AltLd - 01/Jun/09 with Rad Hughes

hils theaker - AltLd - Jun/09 with Adam

Led P3, what a pitch. Totally out there for the grade, but the holds are all there.
victim of mathematics - AltLd O/S - 31/May/09 with Sophie Whyte

ritchierich - AltLd rpt - 30/May/09 with Wyn Price

Ed Booth - Lead O/S - 30/May/09

Adam Booth - Lead O/S - 30/May/09 with Ellen Cobby

Ellen Cobby - 2nd - 30/May/09 with Adam Booth

Phil1967 - AltLd O/S - 29/May/09 with Dan

smudge - AltLd rpt - 29/May/09 with Phil

ducle - AltLd O/S - 25/May/09 with Mike Alexander

sgl - Lead O/S - 25/May/09 with Susie

lukewilliams - 2nd - 21/May/09

Hidden - 2nd - 26/Apr/09

Hidden - 2nd O/S - 26/Apr/09

Chris led first, I led second. Awesome top pitch, very steep and technical.
bigbobbyking - AltLd O/S - 19/Apr/09 with Chris Allan

Led second pitch - awesome bridging crack
mick1jones - AltLd O/S - 19/Apr/09 with Dave Wilkinson

Hidden - Lead O/S - 19/Apr/09

chrisallan - AltLd O/S - 19/Apr/09

Hidden - Lead O/S - 18/Apr/09

Hidden - Lead O/S - Apr/09

GPN - AltLd O/S - 21/Mar/09 with Annette

Led p2
net - AltLd O/S - 21/Mar/09 with George

Kenemo - 2009

Hidden - 2009

Seymore Butt - 2009

Rich35 - Lead - 2009

Gibson27 - AltLd O/S - 2009

Rob Evans - 2nd O/S - 2009

Wayne S - 2009 with Jon Croxford

led first pitch
jdgaventa - AltLd - 02/Nov/08 with eric

pelvoux - Lead O/S - 02/Nov/08 with Jonathan

Hidden - AltLd O/S - 12/Oct/08

rd20 - AltLd O/S - 29/Sep/08 with Patrick

Led P2, Martin P1. Capped off the weekend in a perfect way, just really nice continuous climbing which was steep but not too scary.
kleinej - AltLd O/S - 28/Sep/08 with Martin

me - pitch 1, Jason 2/3 run together
smolders - AltLd O/S - 28/Sep/08 with Jason K

dicky79 - AltLd O/S - 27/Sep/08 with James D

DannyK - AltLd O/S - 27/Sep/08 with pep

Steve Hill - AltLd O/S - 26/Sep/08 with Alys Rook

Hidden - AltLd rpt - 26/Sep/08

sammoore - Lead O/S - 01/Sep/08 with Ivan Holroyd

Joemanglerocks - Lead - 30/Aug/08 with Alison Ellwood

JimBee - AltLd O/S - Aug/08 with Matt Ellis

RCrockford - AltLd rpt - 27/Jul/08 with Andy G

Hidden - AltLd - 27/Jul/08

Hidden - AltLd O/S - 27/Jul/08

Night time ascent
barni - AltLd - 21/Jul/08 with Northern

Night climb
thompson1000 - AltLd - 21/Jul/08 with Barni

jcurley - 2nd O/S - 02/Jul/08 with Mike Buddle

Hidden - AltLd O/S - 24/Jun/08

RCrockford - AltLd O/S - 14/Jun/08 with Andy C

HIGHTOWER - AltLd O/S - 14/Jun/08 with nathan kelly

@ndy - AltLd - 14/Jun/08 with RCrockford

Hidden - 2nd - 14/Jun/08

Bristoldave - AltLd O/S - 13/Jun/08 with CarolineH

Led pitch 1. Awesome exposure!
CarolineH - AltLd O/S - 13/Jun/08 with Dave

Did this as 3 pitches - top pitch is excellent.
markfairbank - Lead O/S - 08/Jun/08 with Mick D

RichardMc - AltLd - 07/Jun/08 with Tony Williams

Hidden - Lead O/S - Jun/08

My first multi-pitch climb.
ladislav - 2nd O/S - 24/May/08 with Stuart

Lead P1
MikeLell - AltLd - 22/May/08 with Ian Bryant

A fine lead of Pitch 2 by Mrs Weasel - Ferriting up the steep corner crack!
JiveWeasel - AltLd - 20/May/08 with Mrs Weasel

Led pitch 2
Mrs Weasel - AltLd - 20/May/08 with JiveWeasel

ritchierich - AltLd O/S - 13/May/08 with Steve Joynson

1st pitch led hari's second ever lead
Ewan Russell - AltLd O/S - 13/May/08 with Hari

Hidden - Lead - 12/May/08

Hidden - AltLd O/S - 12/May/08

Sean lead p1.
gejones - Lead rpt - 10/May/08 with Sean

heather.deane - 2nd O/S - 08/May/08 with Andy

Hidden - AltLd - 05/May/08

colkurtz - AltLd - May/08 with Sarah

Hidden - 2nd - May/08

Crewey-Si - AltLd O/S - 16/Feb/08 with Rob

Hidden - AltLd O/S - 16/Feb/08

Hidden - AltLd O/S - 16/Feb/08

Great route, thought the second pitch was nails.
nathan_kelly - AltLd - 14/Jan/08 with hightower

Matt Vigg - 2008

daveagriff - Lead - 2008

Al Evans - 2008

Hidden - AltLd - 2008

peter myers - AltLd O/S - 2008 with Liam Flemming

Hidden - 2008

popov86 - AltLd - 2008

Marcus - 2008

Rob Greenwood - UKClimbing - Lead O/S - 2008

djking1983 - Lead O/S - 22/Oct/07 with Phil Nutbeam

Hidden - Lead O/S - 20/Oct/07

Hidden - AltLd dnf - 04/Oct/07

Hidden - 2nd O/S - 12/Sep/07

Hjort - AltLd O/S - 09/Sep/07 with Jam Mortimer

jambomotamops - AltLd O/S - 09/Sep/07 with Toby Vye

Eccentric - Lead O/S - 08/Sep/07 with Andrew Pickavance

The Bad Cough - AltLd O/S - 08/Sep/07 with John Nesbitt

awesome top corner - one of the best pitches ive lead
EAYL - AltLd - 04/Sep/07 with matt owen

MattOwen - AltLd O/S - 04/Sep/07 with Ed Young

Clio's 1st multipitch route
Different Steve - Lead O/S - 25/Aug/07 with Clio

Clee - 2nd O/S - 25/Aug/07 with Steve

tobydunford - Lead O/S - 17/Aug/07 with Ben Smith

Kirill - Lead O/S - 19/Jul/07 with Dina

Superb in every way. Did it on a wet grey July Sunday, crag deserted apart from us. Big juggy climbing, delicate threading through wet slabs at the top of pitch 1, exposed stance below final crack, romp up open slab to finish.
pnorth - AltLd O/S - 15/Jul/07 with Tim Ewington

Hidden - 2nd - 10/Jun/07

the juicy dangler - AltLd O/S - 06/Jun/07 with carlene hill

Carly - AltLd O/S - 06/Jun/07 with Richard

Julian Prieto - Lead O/S - 02/Jun/07 with Nick Mortley

I led P1 and P3. 1st pitch was wet but good protection. third pitch good bridging.
nigel pearson - AltLd O/S - 28/May/07 with Robin

robertporter - AltLd O/S - 28/May/07 with James

The_Boy_ODwyer - Lead O/S - 26/May/07 with Tom C

started on spiral stairs but finished up here. really nice well protected bridging.
ebunick - Lead O/S - 24/May/07 with Gabby

Hidden - AltLd O/S - 21/May/07

@ndyM@rsh@ll - AltLd O/S - May/07 with Sophie Wilmes

Claire S-J - 2nd - May/07

Xav - AltLd O/S - 28/Apr/07 with Chris Phillips

Hidden - AltLd O/S - 20/Apr/07

Hidden - Lead O/S - 17/Apr/07

mje1398 - AltLd O/S - 08/Apr/07 with Dom

Led first pitch, before moving onto Sabre Cut, whcih was a route finding error haha!
igneouscarl - Lead O/S - 07/Apr/07 with Robert Jones

Only first pitch. Climbers on second pitch so finished on Sabre Cut
MikeDowsett - 2nd - Mar/07 with Geoff Williams

Luke Kelly - Lead O/S - 04/Feb/07 with Jaq Tildesley

Babika - Lead O/S - 04/Feb/07 with Dusan Antosik

Rob Kennard - 2007

Hidden - 2007

Glyn - 2007 with Trystan and Jade

Sean Kelly - 2007

timmy-ts - 2007

Matthew Scott-Chalmers - 2nd - 2007 with Peter thewless

Hidden - Solo - 2007

Dom Whillans - 2007

A bit wet at the start but good top pitch
Rob Laird - AltLd O/S - 11/Nov/06 with AJ

AJ007 - AltLd - 11/Nov/06 with Rob

robgilchrist - Lead - Nov/06

Hidden - Lead O/S - Nov/06

mark4344 - AltLd - 29/Oct/06 with Matt Payne

Hidden - 2nd O/S - 09/Oct/06

Stig - AltLd O/S - 15/Sep/06 with Jonathan Teale

Hidden - AltLd O/S - 10/Sep/06

Mike Parker - AltLd O/S - 10/Sep/06 with Dan Parker

Superb - first outdoor climb
Eoinparker - 2nd O/S - Sep/06

David Robinson - AltLd - 30/Aug/06

Fantastic, got the a little bit but beautiful place
Steve Vincent - AltLd - 30/Aug/06

Ed Babs - Lead O/S - 25/Aug/06 with Kate

Paul Tomo - AltLd O/S - 24/Aug/06 with Paul James

Nicos - Lead O/S - 05/Aug/06 with rich howels

esther - AltLd - Aug/06

nigelw - AltLd - 15/Jul/06 with N Offley; C Tapp

I led 2nd pitch traverse and 3rd pitch 4b corner run together. Corner felt like good value for 4b!
adamscottthomas - AltLd O/S - 13/Jul/06 with Rob Mead

Lead 1st pitch.
bob3141 - AltLd O/S - 13/Jul/06 with Adam Thomas

Absolutely fantastic climbing.
My Gravity - AltLd O/S - 22/Jun/06 with Rob M

Hidden - AltLd O/S - 11/Jun/06

arin78 - AltLd O/S - 09/Jun/06 with Lara

mike278 - 2nd O/S - Jun/06 with Gareth Buckley

Hidden - Lead - 22/Apr/06

Hidden - AltLd - Apr/06

frost - 2nd - Apr/06 with N Griffiths, D Garry

dan gibson - 2006

Ian McNeill - 2006

Jon_Warner - 2nd O/S - 2006 with Dave Pattinson

Bry - AltLd - 2006

Hidden - AltLd O/S - 2006

Climb Rox - Lead - 2006

Hidden - Lead - 2006

Matt lead first pitch and first half of second but got scared. Ended up leading rest in failing light, Matt and Tom followed with headtorches.
Wangy - AltLd - 26/Nov/05 with Matt Traver

Hidden - 2nd O/S - 20/Nov/05

Boxy - Lead O/S - Nov/05

Hidden - AltLd O/S - 16/Oct/05

david morse - 2nd - Oct/05 with chris todd

Hidden - Lead O/S - 24/Sep/05

GScot38 - Lead O/S - 27/Jul/05

Jon Pilling - AltLd O/S - 27/Jul/05 with Greg Davies

Tom Last - 2nd - Jul/05 with Clive

Chesh - Lead - 27/Jun/05 with Lawrence

Si dH - AltLd O/S - 02/Apr/05 with Alison Ingleby

centurion05 - AltLd O/S - 2005 with fruit bat

dobby 200 - 2nd O/S - 2005

nicholas Barrowclough - Solo - 04/Oct/04

Hidden - Lead O/S - Oct/04

A Crook - AltLd O/S - 19/Aug/04 with Dom Stockton

joe c ook - Lead O/S - Jul/04

Hidden - AltLd - Jul/04

Scared myself leading 2nd pitch with shocking hangover.
Gman - AltLd O/S - Jun/04 with Dave

SteveM - Lead - 15/May/04 with Roger

Hidden - AltLd - 13/May/04

Hidden - AltLd O/S - 02/May/04

Very very good. Exposed but straightforward....
Dr Avid - 2004

Big jugs on the first pitch and delicate bridging on the magnificent second.
mikehenesy - AltLd O/S - Aug/03 with Steve Smith

Urgles - Solo O/S - Jul/03

Marq - AltLd O/S - 16/Feb/03 with Daniel Dennehy

keith leonard - 2003

Hidden - 2003

Hidden - Lead - 2002

BALD EAGLE - AltLd - 13/Oct/01 with Steve Green

John Roe - AltLd - 22/Sep/01 with Conor Cairns

Hidden - Lead - 28/Aug/01

Hidden - 2nd O/S - 30/Jun/01

Hidden - 2nd - 30/Jun/01

hangon - Lead O/S - 16/Jun/01 with Sandy

Hidden - 2nd O/S - 10/Jun/01

Hidden - Lead - 2001

skygodley - Lead O/S - 15/Sep/00

Darragh - Jun/00 with Rob

Paul Boardman - AltLd O/S - 2000 with Iain Boardman

Hidden - 2000

Hidden - AltLd O/S - 2000

Hidden - 2000

marcoleptic - Lead - 2000 with Moley

dickypips - AltLd O/S - Aug/99 with john richards

Duncan I - AltLd - Jul/99 with Si Coles, Sarah Irving

gonggashan - Jun/99

Mark Riley - AltLd O/S - Apr/99 with Stuart Greenall

PyB course
Andrew Barker - Lead - 1999

belay bunny turned bad - Lead - 1999

pigeonjim - Lead O/S - 1999

Hidden - Lead - Sep/98

One of my earliest leads. Ignorantly joined pitches 2&3, resulting in epic rope-drag, and only just enough rope to set up the belay.
JuneBob - Lead O/S - Jul/98 with Roy

Think this was this year. With Ivan! One of my first multi-pitch climbs!
Matt Bill Platypus - 2nd dog - May/98 with Ivan

Hidden - Lead - May/98

Hidden - AltLd - Jan/98

Hidden - 1998

Ched - Lead O/S - 1998 with Glanfor

WB - Lead O/S - 1998

rachm2004 - 2nd - 20/Jul/97 with Jon B

John Pickles - Lead O/S - 31/Mar/97

Much jamming and bridging.
Ian Robertson - 2nd - 08/Mar/97 with Krystina Lotoczko

smudge - Lead O/S - 21/Sep/96 with Alex

Chris Ellis - AltLd O/S - 04/Aug/96 with Louise Pellett

Hidden - Lead O/S - 16/Jun/96

GuyM - 1996

Steve Crowe - Sep/95 with Bob Bennett

Hidden - Lead - 21/Jul/95

Hidden - AltLd O/S - 1995

robtrooper - 1995

richorme - Lead O/S - Jul/94 with Mike Hubble

colin milton - AltLd - 16/Jun/94 with eric milton

Hidden - Lead - 03/May/93

Hidden - AltLd - 25/Mar/93

DavPk - AltLd - 1993 with Gareth Wood

In 2 pitches, I led 2nd
Iain Thow - AltLd - 14/Aug/91 with Rob Ivens

Hidden - Lead - 01/May/91

ewjudge - Lead O/S - 24/Mar/91 with Dave Hopkins

Hidden - Lead O/S - 1991

PaulHermes - 1991

Hidden - AltLd - 30/Nov/90

Hidden - AltLd O/S - 16/Sep/90

steve prior - AltLd - Sep/90 with Paul B

mattnuttall - Lead - 18/Aug/90 with Alan Holden

Andy Say - Solo - 09/Apr/90

whispering nic - Apr/90 with Sammy PYB

Richard Weller - Lead - 18/Mar/90 with Ali Lee-Browne

Hidden - Lead O/S - 1990

Hidden - Lead - 1990

andy gittins - 1990

Hidden - Lead O/S - 1990

OMSKB - Lead - Aug/89 with John Roberts

Hidden - Lead - 17/Jun/89

Pete_Frost - AltLd β - 1989

Hidden - Lead - 22/Oct/88

Paul Figg - Lead - Mar/88

babymoac - Lead - 03/Aug/87 with Rich Reeder

AndyB123 - Lead O/S - Aug/87

Hidden - AltLd - Jul/87

Dave Musgrove - AltLd - 04/Sep/86 with Jim Worthington

davemhart - Lead O/S - 18/Aug/86

led 1st pitch
michael burrows - AltLd O/S - 04/Apr/86 with ian nettleton

2nd: Bog, Leeming
Gary Coggon - Lead O/S - 1986

Nick Biven - 1986

lithos - Jul/85 with mark planner

Hidden - Lead - 22/Feb/85

Pete Pozman - AltLd O/S - 22/Feb/85 with Fergy

Ian Clare - 1985

Hidden - AltLd O/S - Sep/84

John HW - Lead - Jun/84

Hidden - AltLd O/S - 11/May/84

hazeysunshine - AltLd O/S - Aug/83 with Pete H

Ian Jones - Lead O/S - Jul/83 with Geraldine Taylor

Hidden - AltLd - 1983

Hidden - Solo - Sep/82

crux too airy
leland stamper - Solo dnf - 10/Apr/82

Nic Robinson - 1982

jasper11 - Lead - 1982

John Marsland - Lead - 25/Jul/81 with Steve

John Brayshaw - 2nd O/S - 01/Jul/81 with Plas-y-Brenin

Andy Fielding - AltLd - 01/Aug/80 with Tom Benson

GordonHart - Lead - 1980

Hidden - Lead - 1980

rogerskews - AltLd - 1979 with Martin Coward

Hidden - Oct/78

Hidden - AltLd - Sep/78

Hammy - AltLd - 27/May/78 with Jonathon Stacey

Dives only, at Severe
Mike C - AltLd - 16/Apr/78 with Pete Vallely

mikej - Lead - 27/Mar/78 with Mike Mason

leland stamper - 1978

Hidden - 1978

jmr - AltLd - 14/Jul/77 with Nigel (from Horsham)

Mike Owen - Solo rpt - 04/Jul/77

Hidden - AltLd - 01/Jul/77

In the rain, in Super RDs and with big sacs. Part of a 'round trip' started because of poor morning weather in the Pass. Ended up doing Dolerite Dump, Slow Ledge, Reade's Route, Snowdon summit, Spiral Stairs, Dives, and Sabre Cut.
Falko - AltLd O/S - 26/Jun/77 with Al W.

Nigel Bond - Lead - 06/Mar/77 with Tony Cuddy, Dave

Hidden - 1977

steve L - 1977

RichardMc - Lead O/S - 23/Oct/76 with Patrick Radford

Brian Wilderspin - Sep/76 with Brian Wallis

Mark Kemball - Lead - 18/Sep/75

Mike Owen - AltLd O/S - Aug/75 with John Roberts

Bolt Phobia - AltLd - 22/Jun/75

Hidden - Jan/75

tapley - Lead - 11/Jul/74 with Alison Tapley

Did pitch 1 then finished up Sabre Cut this time.
Rog Wilko - Lead - May/74 with Debbie Wilkinson

Derek Ryden - AltLd O/S - Apr/73 with Geoff Riding

rockofades - 2nd - 18/Jul/70 with DW

Gordon Stainforth - 2nd - 17/Jan/70 with Tim James

Gordon Stainforth - AltLd - 30/Aug/69 with John Stainforth

mikej - AltLd - 26/May/69 with Wil Hurford

granitbahn - Lead - 1969

We did the old Dives route, without Better Things finish.
Gordon Stainforth - AltLd - 10/Aug/68 with John Stainforth

Hidden - Lead - 16/Sep/67

Hidden - Lead - 07/Jan/67

mikej - Lead - 23/Sep/66 with Ted Markham

Better Things finish
eroica64 - 2nd - 1965 with Colin -, Nick Hawes

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