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[Heading up the final snow gulley of Idwal Stream, 2 kb]350m, 8 pitches. Good easy introduction to winter climbing. Usually in condition before anything else. The crux on the second or third pitch depending where you belay is short but fun.

Photo: Heading up the final snow gulley of Idwal Stream © ChrisHolloway1
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Hidden - AltLd - 08/Apr/13

Binder - AltLd O/S - 07/Apr/13 with Toby

Still in fairly good nick
Fiskavaig - Solo - 07/Apr/13 with Pete P

Very thick ice, quite different to last time! ran p1 (short slab to the pool) and p2 together. P3 up the left side of the steep waterfall and belayed on the right. p4 the short ramp to the bottom of the last crux waterfall. p5, again, tricky entry to the icy groove. Unroped and climbed up after that but ended up getting the rope out again for some steeper ice steps. Great day out, Dad's first ice climb.
George_Surf - Lead O/S - 07/Apr/13 with Andy Sanderson

I led pitch one (my first ice lead). It was in poor nick, with ice thinning and stream flowing below, but seemed safe enough.
gravity - AltLd O/S - 07/Apr/13 with George

Mark Salter - Solo O/S - 06/Apr/13

Hidden - AltLd O/S - 06/Apr/13

jamesh - Solo - 06/Apr/13 with Jim Unwin

gseywald - Lead - 05/Apr/13 with Paul

Hidden - Lead - 05/Apr/13

Some water running behind the ice, but otherwise good condition and taking plenty of decent screws.
andy dunn - AltLd O/S - 05/Apr/13 with J

tunaficiency - Lead O/S - 05/Apr/13 with kate surry

ElvisLeg - Lead O/S - 04/Apr/13 with Sally

Lead with N Stacey, first 2 pitches then solo to top, ( Nigel's second route this winter to warm up on)
climber34neil - AltLd - 03/Apr/13

Hidden - Solo - 03/Apr/13

georgedunton - Solo O/S - 02/Apr/13

Hidden - AltLd - 02/Apr/13

Hidden - Solo rpt - 02/Apr/13

deklan - Solo - 01/Apr/13 with ann, james B, ant, Rosie

jon clayton - Solo - 01/Apr/13 with Dave Hanham

tomdadom - Solo O/S - 01/Apr/13

Hidden - Lead O/S - 31/Mar/13

Hidden - 2nd O/S - 31/Mar/13

After backing off a sopping wet Devil's Cellar. Considerably more hacked out than on Friday.
freemanTom (Guildford MC) - Solo rpt - 31/Mar/13 with Jurgen

Hidden - Solo O/S - 31/Mar/13

Dizz - Lead O/S - 31/Mar/13 with Martin

Harri777 - 2nd - 31/Mar/13 with Liz

Hidden - 2nd - 31/Mar/13

Hidden - AltLd O/S - 30/Mar/13

nice long route with some fun icy stretches. walked on up to the saddle for a lunch in the sun
thomb - Solo - 30/Mar/13 with Jess

Hidden - 2nd O/S - 30/Mar/13

r.greaves - 30/Mar/13 with Ian smith

sonnenstern - Solo O/S - 29/Mar/13

Hidden - Lead - 29/Mar/13

Hidden - AltLd - 29/Mar/13

First on it Fri morning. Prob least steep condition I'ce come across, First pitch quite banked out.
freemanTom (Guildford MC) - Solo rpt - 29/Mar/13

Hidden - Lead O/S - 29/Mar/13

Ice was solid, good clean climb to the top out
friendzone1234 - 2nd O/S - 29/Mar/13 with matthew reynolds

Hidden - Solo - 29/Mar/13

My second winter climb, seemed to be in pretty decent condition.
tomjemmett - 2nd O/S - 28/Mar/13 with Dave Wilkinson

Hidden - Lead - 27/Mar/13

Lots of snow! Fun, good ice sections that are not too long or sustained, excellent starter route. Top half is mainly a snow slope, with the occasional foot falling through into the stream below! Moved together after 3rd pitch.
Stuart Hurworth - 2nd O/S - 27/Mar/13 with Marcus Levens

Hidden - AltLd - 26/Mar/13

Hidden - AltLd - 03/Mar/13

david100 - AltLd - 26/Feb/13

cragtyke - Lead - 25/Feb/13

Started climbing about 100m up from stream. Apart from steep sections, solo'd. Took a cheeky line at the last steep section to cure jo's hiccups. Jim brought bread and butter pudding.
Ander - AltLd - 24/Feb/13 with Bad Toro, Jimb0

Seconded on the technical moves but soloed easy bits. Great day out. Forgot all about hiccups I had on a crux move...great cure! Loved the bread and butter pud I was surprised with in the car after descent was a good end to the day :)
Sparrowmonkey - 2nd - 24/Feb/13 with Jimb0, Bootcamp Broadman

Andy_B39 - Solo rpt - 24/Feb/13

Hidden - AltLd - 23/Feb/13

Ice in fairly good condition.
iwanap - AltLd - 23/Feb/13 with Euryn

Hidden - Solo O/S - 23/Feb/13

Ice not great, bottled out half way.
hairy51 - Lead - Feb/13 with Joe Andrews, Ben Axford

simon geering - 2nd O/S - 29/Jan/13 with Mark Reeves

Hidden - Lead - 26/Jan/13

Stopsy - Solo O/S - 25/Jan/13 with henry francis, Tristan

Tristan101 - 25/Jan/13 with James Stops, Henry Francis

2hrs door to door
Glyn - Solo O/S - 25/Jan/13

Hidden - Solo O/S - 25/Jan/13

Bit hard going to get to the first good ice but after that a good days outing. Crux pitch thawing a little which made the move up interesting.
Puma - Solo - 25/Jan/13 with Jamie Brown, Rob Stone

fun but deep snow and not much ice on first bit before the icefalls. Tons of spindrift higher up and windy !
lithos - Solo - 25/Jan/13 with Puma

First winter route. Rob dropped me a rope for the crux move but had no trouble with it.
Jamie Brown - Solo - 25/Jan/13 with Rob Stone, Paul Davies

Hidden - Solo - 24/Jan/13

Very smooth, enjoyed soloing
anthonydouglas - Solo O/S - 24/Jan/13 with Craig Letham

Hidden - Solo - 24/Jan/13

Lead all pitches , great conditions throughout cwm idwal
climber34neil - Lead - 24/Jan/13

Hidden - AltLd O/S - 24/Jan/13

Ice pitches in good condition but snow not neve
bennevis - AltLd O/S - 24/Jan/13 with paul

Hidden - 2nd - 24/Jan/13

TCarrick - 23/Jan/13

Hidden - Lead dnf - 23/Jan/13

Webster - Solo rpt - 23/Jan/13

First water ice climb. Quite a few people about. Led it in 4 pitches then solo'd the rest. Good sling belays and plenty of space. Ice was good, a bit of running water. Crux was p4, short but steep ice with a technical start.
George_Surf - Lead O/S - 23/Jan/13 with Charlie Sanderson

CashaJones - 2nd - 23/Jan/13

Pinguville - 2nd O/S - 23/Jan/13 with George

Good conditions overall. Ash's first UK winter climb. Great day out.
Zoomer - Lead O/S - 22/Jan/13 with Ash Sleight

Great intro to winter climbing. Fantastic conditions. Should be good all week. Done in 3 pitches
ashsleight - 2nd O/S - 22/Jan/13 with Glen bloomer

after work, moon-light solo on a perfect night, having the whole of cwm idwal to ourselves..
wolf.leeb - Solo rpt - 22/Jan/13 with jo

TCarrick - 22/Jan/13

some good ice low down, snow plod for the upper half. a section of tech 4 can be climbed but easily avoided.
Webster - Solo O/S - 22/Jan/13

Little bit tired, looks like it has seen a lot of traffic recently! Ice getting a bit thin in someplaces, but perfectly doable.
ianstevens - Solo O/S - 21/Jan/13

benrigby - Solo O/S - 21/Jan/13

TomMorgan - Solo O/S - 21/Jan/13

benjaminireland - Lead - 20/Jan/13

tompilgrem - AltLd O/S - 20/Jan/13 with Dad

bobpilgrem - AltLd O/S - 20/Jan/13 with Tom

not in the best of nick but some good bits of ice about. Snow powdery.
JasonV - Solo O/S - 19/Jan/13

Climbs in Idwal not in nick so bailed up this thing.
Tom Livingstone - Solo O/S - 19/Jan/13 with Jamie Macdonald

Good fun intro ice climb. A bit slushy in places
SamP88 - Solo O/S - 19/Jan/13

Alex Riley - Solo O/S - 19/Jan/13 with Sam P

CurlyStevo - AltLd - Jan/13 with Rob

al jackson - AltLd - Jan/13

Nick Biven - 2013

Hidden - 2013

Hidden - Lead - 2013

did it at about 11pm after work. was running a fair bit but decided not to skip around the wet bits as if i did that may as well have walked up the whole thing. Got a bit wet. Gorgeous night though. no headtorch needed.
Ollie B - Solo O/S - 08/Feb/12

Hidden - Solo O/S - 04/Feb/12

wolf.leeb - Solo rpt - 04/Feb/12

Andy_B39 - Lead O/S - 03/Feb/12 with James Taylor, Ben Rigby

Will Williams - Solo O/S - Feb/12

Hidden - 2012

mark12345 - AltLd - 2012 with rich brown

Was very wet; highlight came from watching Matt down-climb to retrieve the bug he dropped.
Blurgy319 - Solo O/S - 21/Feb/11 with Andy, Matthew Cooke

Hidden - Solo - Feb/11

Hidden - 2nd - Feb/11

Good first ice climb , second first two pitches then lead the easier pitches above. Good day out,
Cadairmanuk - AltLd O/S - 31/Jan/11

Water ice all the way
Steve Woollard - Lead - 30/Jan/11 with Kevin Colclough

Andy37 - Solo O/S - 29/Jan/11

wet and chewy.. all good :) everything else is creeping back in..
wolf.leeb - Solo O/S - 29/Jan/11

Quite wet. I was roped up and had a pile of gear clipped to my harness, but did not placed any runners. Great fun and amazing views on sunny day.
andrzej kierzek - Solo O/S - 29/Jan/11 with Tara

First pitch shite condition. Ice pretty god for next 2. Had total mare. Got to bottom of route and only counted 1 axe. Defintely started the day with 2. Go all the way back to the car, no axe, back to the stream, no axe. Have a little think, retrace my steps exactly and found the axe below where the path crosses the stream. Race back up the hill, gear up and solo first pitch to join others. Andy belays me and Dave on the next 2 pitches and solo finish.
freemanTom (Guildford MC) - 29/Jan/11 with David HW, Andy Debrou

Hidden - 29/Jan/11

tarasanthi - 2nd - 29/Jan/11 with Andrzej Kierzek

Hidden - Solo - 28/Jan/11

Fiskavaig - Solo - 16/Jan/11 with Paul R

Phil Belcher - AltLd O/S - Jan/11 with tommy

Hidden - 2011

Hidden - 2011

Hidden - Lead O/S - 27/Dec/10

liam prince - AltLd O/S - 23/Dec/10 with dylan jones

Alot of snow, waist deep at the part.
Stuart Wildman - Solo - 22/Dec/10

Snowy after the 3rd pitch! climbing awsome before that
kipman725 - AltLd O/S - 22/Dec/10

mickJ - Solo - 22/Dec/10 with Stuart Wildman

Hidden - 2nd - 22/Dec/10

Leonard Tedd - 18/Dec/10

Hidden - AltLd O/S - 15/Dec/10

Hidden - Solo - 11/Dec/10

Very wet, shonkey ice. Great fun!
Dan_S - AltLd - 10/Dec/10

tall paul - AltLd O/S - 09/Dec/10 with aiden

Stuart Wildman - 07/Dec/10 with Neil

Hidden - AltLd O/S - 07/Dec/10

first route of the day. busy but good fun. very wet belay before P3
gb83 - AltLd - 07/Dec/10 with Steve Palmer

lukewilliams - 07/Dec/10

Hidden - Solo O/S - 06/Dec/10

Nice ice, although busy the stream is wide enough to blast past slower parties if all agreeable and carefull.
wilkie14c - Lead O/S - 06/Dec/10 with Dave Clarke

Good condition. Only 4 other parties.
Glyn Davidson - Solo rpt - 05/Dec/10 with Dan

Hidden - AltLd O/S - 05/Dec/10

Templeton Adams - Lead O/S - 05/Dec/10 with tez young, Darren H

Hidden - 2nd O/S - 05/Dec/10

Hidden - Solo O/S - 05/Dec/10

Hidden - 2nd O/S - 05/Dec/10

First winter outing and a grand way to knock the rust off - especially by tackling some of the falls by harder options; took one short section of overhanging ice on p3 ! Pretty quite, only two otehr groups on with us. Condition not bad though a few holes here & there (apparently it was rammed on saturday)and running water behind. took opportunity to practice a few skills like abalakov threads for belays etc. Completed to top - its rude not too :-)
jandyd05 - Lead rpt - 05/Dec/10 with Julie Anglesea

tubby Tez - 2nd O/S - 05/Dec/10 with daddybear2004, templeton adams

Fiskavaig - Solo - 05/Dec/10 with Steve Ben

Hidden - 2nd - 05/Dec/10

emlynroberts - AltLd - 04/Dec/10 with Alec Folley

Hidden - AltLd O/S - 04/Dec/10

jon clayton - AltLd O/S - 04/Dec/10 with dan commander

dan-8990 - AltLd O/S - 04/Dec/10 with JC

benny_m - Lead O/S - 04/Dec/10 with Ali Brown

saillord - AltLd O/S - 04/Dec/10 with Emlyn

Managed to be the first rope up!
Messners Yeti - AltLd O/S - 04/Dec/10 with Tim Willmott

williamsd79 - 2nd O/S - 04/Dec/10 with Steve Price, Luke Watts

Hidden - 04/Dec/10

Stone Muppet - Solo O/S - 04/Dec/10 with tl

Hidden - AltLd O/S - 04/Dec/10

j.carney - 2nd O/S - 04/Dec/10 with Emma Bastock, John Beddard

Amy Kilpin - 2nd - 04/Dec/10

Hidden - 2nd O/S - 04/Dec/10

Good fun route. Long and easy. In remarkably good condition for so early in the season.
the_one_jim - Lead O/S - 04/Dec/10

Pice of cake, quite fat, though less options for lines than last year. good screw belays all the way.
garethMottram - Lead β - 04/Dec/10 with Georgina Dawkins

FrankW - Lead rpt - 03/Dec/10 with Colin Adams

Hidden - Solo - 03/Dec/10

Hidden - Lead O/S - 03/Dec/10

rosieposey14 - AltLd - 03/Dec/10 with mark challoner

mike4563 - Solo O/S - 03/Dec/10 with Ben Woody Woodward

Ben Sharp - 03/Dec/10 with malcolm

Hidden - Lead - 03/Dec/10

Hidden - Lead - 03/Dec/10

Soloed all the way from the path to the top to avoid queueing (with full sacs of gear and rope!). Great fun. But winter skills somewhat rusty - attempted foot swap resulted in me cutting loose on axes with one crampon stuck inside the other, to much shaking of heads from crowds on belay stance!
Andy Clarke - Solo O/S - 03/Dec/10 with Dale

JDSwain - Solo rpt - 02/Dec/10

samrad - Solo - 02/Dec/10 with Swain, smallerrich

Domin - AltLd O/S - 02/Dec/10

Hidden - AltLd rpt - 01/Dec/10

Hidden - 2nd O/S - 01/Dec/10

Fat and with some wonderful steep sections possible (although completely avoidable - of course I chose the steepest, hardest possibilities on the pitches I ran together)
groovy_nut - AltLd O/S - 01/Dec/10 with Dave W

first winter route of season!
Greenman28 - 01/Dec/10

bob johnson - AltLd O/S - 01/Dec/10 with Al Borrett

Gerallt Owain - AltLd O/S - 01/Dec/10 with Steve Chapman

stevechaps1 - AltLd - 01/Dec/10 with Gerallt Owain

my first ice climb, we started from the path andy fell in the stream so we put our crampons on. soloed a couple of steep sections up to the start of the route, which gave me the convidence to solo the whole route with full sacks. What a great day and brill climb got my heart going a couple of times.
Dale - Solo O/S - Dec/10

tscoobydoo - Solo O/S - Dec/10 with phillip belcher

elhig1 - AltLd rpt - Dec/10

nutter - Lead - Dec/10

Martyn - Solo - Dec/10 with James Williams

SAF - AltLd O/S - Dec/10 with danny

Hidden - Solo - Dec/10

Katy Nelson - 29/Nov/10 with david morse

david morse - AltLd O/S - 29/Nov/10 with katie

Hidden - Solo - 29/Nov/10

awesome, forgot how much loved winter climbing! soloed after first 3 pitches.
Mad Man in a Mini - AltLd O/S - 29/Nov/10 with Matt Griffiths

Good ice for the majority of the way up. My first ice climb.
davegs - 28/Nov/10

First winter route of the season and it's still only November! Went up into Idwal with the vague hope of finding some ice and were very happy to find the Stream in decent nick. The ice was even thick enough for screws in places - I placed one on P1 for a laugh. Did P1 and P2, then it was over to Su for her first winter lead on P3 using a screw that Paul had left on a steep section - she coped admirably. Carried on unroped up the never ending easy section. Left Ogwen Cottage at 10.20am after some trouble getting the car out of the Ynys car park and got back at 4.00. A perfect blue sky and hardly any wind - what a great day! Paul H and John pitched in front of us while Su's friend Paul and his friend Leon soloed ahead.
Misha - AltLd O/S - 28/Nov/10 with Su

Lenny - Solo β - 28/Nov/10

Route was a little wet, but great fun all the same
climbing_wiggy - Solo O/S - 28/Nov/10 with Paul Henley (smc), Misha, Su, John Hayden, Leon

Hidden - 2nd O/S - 28/Nov/10

Hidden - Solo - 24/Feb/10

A great way to finish a fun day, had counted 32 people queing in the morning much quieter at dusk.
john heaton - Solo - Feb/10 with Ben the Bear MacAllister

Hidden - AltLd - Feb/10

mhawk - Solo - 22/Jan/10 with Greg.Owen

Hidden - Solo - 14/Jan/10

Hidden - Lead - 13/Jan/10

ollieben - Lead O/S - 11/Jan/10

awesome winter action!!
Mad Man in a Mini - 2nd O/S - 11/Jan/10 with Matt Griffiths, Olli Henson

Second, then Solo at the top
M_grif - 11/Jan/10 with Ollie Henson, Alex King

Trashed and far to busy. Dickheads crawling all over it with no respect for anyone around them!!
vanderz - AltLd O/S - 10/Jan/10 with Graham Plant

Was on way to the kitchen but was no queue on the stream so bimbled up it. In good nick, not too chopped out.
freemanTom (Guildford MC) - AltLd - 10/Jan/10 with Craig, Roger Lord

dicky79 - AltLd O/S - 10/Jan/10 with James D

daviesp2 - AltLd - 10/Jan/10

Hidden - AltLd O/S - 09/Jan/10

An early start was essential in order to fully enjoy the route. By the time we were walking back to the car it resembled Paddington Station at rush hour.
thecurlyone - Lead O/S - 09/Jan/10 with Karen Mottart

Hidden - Lead - 09/Jan/10

Hidden - AltLd O/S - 09/Jan/10

Hidden - AltLd O/S - 09/Jan/10

Hidden - AltLd - 09/Jan/10

Hidden - Solo O/S - 09/Jan/10

Great training climb for the ice. Pitched 3 pitches then soloed or moved roped up for remainder. Hugely busy but everyone good natured & friendly - seems to be much more camaraderie than summer equivalent. Unfortunetaly didn't get on any other routes planned due to crowds.
jandyd05 - Lead O/S - 09/Jan/10 with Julie Anglesea

LozM - AltLd - 09/Jan/10 with Mark J

p2 and 3 only. p1 a bit banked out. v. chopped out but pleasant. Totally different to last year where we had to pitch. Steve, Sorry for makin you tromp all the way to the top... you love it really though *8)
ruaidh - Solo - 09/Jan/10 with Steve

Martin Davies - 2nd O/S - 09/Jan/10 with Gareth Mottram

Hidden - 2nd - 09/Jan/10

Ben Watts - Lead O/S - 09/Jan/10 with Louise Grimster

chrisclimber_1986 - 2nd O/S - 09/Jan/10 with Luke Lindsay, Chris Nawrat

Hidden - 2nd - 09/Jan/10

Hidden - 2nd O/S - 08/Jan/10

si_green99 - 2nd O/S - 08/Jan/10 with mike morgan

Hidden - Lead O/S - 08/Jan/10

Hidden - Solo - 08/Jan/10

Hidden - Solo - 07/Jan/10

rob k - AltLd O/S - 07/Jan/10

Bennykr - Solo rpt - 07/Jan/10 with Oliver dowen, Benji

Fun. Cut short after 4 long pitches.
Rampikino - Lead - 06/Jan/10 with Cat

lead the second and fourth pitches, the former being nicely formed ice the latter being a mix on neve with deep drifted snow
gethin_allen - AltLd O/S - 06/Jan/10

Liam FLeming - 06/Jan/10

Ian Andrews - Solo O/S - 06/Jan/10 with Norman Clacher

Bennykr - Solo O/S - 05/Jan/10 with Ben cook, Noodles

alwyn101 - AltLd O/S - 04/Jan/10 with Simon Roberts

Hidden - Solo O/S - 04/Jan/10

Rhys Jones - Solo - 04/Jan/10 with Andy Smith

Bram - Solo - 04/Jan/10

Jillybean - Solo - 03/Jan/10 with Martyn

Wicked fun :)
Noodles - Solo - 03/Jan/10 with Jill Reinsch

jambomotamops - Solo O/S - 03/Jan/10 with Toby Vye

Hjort - Solo O/S - 03/Jan/10 with Jam Mortimer

Led 2nd steep bit then we soloed the rest.. somewhat busy..
smallerrich - AltLd rpt - 03/Jan/10 with will n

Hidden - AltLd - 03/Jan/10

Andy White - 2nd O/S - 02/Jan/10 with Jim Slater & Steve Hill

I lead the first pitch, sam then lead a long pitch doing the rest of the harder sections. We then soloed up the rest. In good Nick though melting. Walked up glyder fawr and commited a number of navigational errors :)
Ewan Russell - AltLd O/S - 02/Jan/10 with Sam Leach

KevinJ - 2nd - 02/Jan/10 with Jimmy Q

Monkey_Alan - AltLd O/S - 02/Jan/10 with Alan Turner

Hidden - AltLd O/S - 02/Jan/10

Hidden - Solo - 02/Jan/10

Hidden - Solo O/S - 02/Jan/10

Led P3 (my first ice lead :)
Steve Hill - AltLd O/S - 02/Jan/10 with Jim Slater, Andy White

Led PI and P2
Jim Slater - AltLd O/S - 02/Jan/10 with Steve Hill, Andy White

Hidden - AltLd O/S - 02/Jan/10

mark20 - AltLd O/S - 01/Jan/10

i led first
tiga271 - AltLd - 01/Jan/10 with mark20

Hidden - Solo O/S - 01/Jan/10

bob johnson - AltLd O/S - 01/Jan/10 with Rich Ball, Bram

Hidden - 2nd - 01/Jan/10

Hidden - Lead O/S - Jan/10

Climbed a number of times over the years even before it was popular, as it is almost casually dismissed in the original Welsh Ice guide! Originally soloed in excellent conditions with Andy Roberts (in the late 80's), his first winter climb!
Sean Kelly - 2nd - Jan/10 with Mark Torrance

scorky345 - Solo - Jan/10 with Gemma Simone

Hidden - AltLd - Jan/10

Patrick803 - AltLd - 2010 with Jeremy Windsor

Jim Walton - Solo - 2010

Hidden - Solo - 2010

devilman - Solo O/S - 2010

tim20 - 2010

Homes - 31/Dec/09 with Sam A

Hidden - Lead O/S - 31/Dec/09

malc - AltLd O/S - 31/Dec/09 with Paul S

Hidden - Solo - 31/Dec/09

Hidden - Solo - 31/Dec/09

maybe_si - Solo O/S - 28/Dec/09

Hidden - TR - 28/Dec/09

spidey - Solo O/S - 28/Dec/09

Al lead the harder pitches!
Tom Hutton - AltLd - 22/Dec/09 with Vincenam

Hidden - AltLd O/S - 22/Dec/09

still alot of water under some of the ice and still resembling a waterfall at some points but the third pitch was excellent fun
Griff87 - AltLd O/S - 22/Dec/09 with Jon Gupta, Dan Abbat

quality day to dream about, ice (just) in condition
tombeasley - 2nd O/S - 19/Dec/09 with Lister

Seconded initial pitches, solo last pitches to top.
r.greaves - 19/Dec/09 with John Beddard, Emma Bastock

Hidden - Solo O/S - 19/Dec/09

Hidden - Solo O/S - 19/Dec/09

Soloed most of it apart from 1st pitch.
ebastock - Solo - 19/Dec/09 with Rich Greaves, John Beddard

Hidden - Solo - Dec/09

Hidden - AltLd - 11/Feb/09

gibbo38 - AltLd O/S - 09/Feb/09 with martin

MikeLell - Solo - 09/Feb/09

Hidden - Lead O/S - 08/Feb/09

Much longer and more suatained than I thought it was gonna be. Top route
freemanTom (Guildford MC) - Solo O/S - 08/Feb/09 with Rog & BurnCool

Hidden - AltLd O/S - 08/Feb/09

Somerset swede basher - Solo O/S - 08/Feb/09 with Siddle, Taylor, Pickles and Johnston

robertporter - AltLd O/S - 08/Feb/09 with Jonny Phillips

daviesp2 - 08/Feb/09

simonw1 - 07/Feb/09

Great day! On this particular day the climb went at grade 111. All parties climbing on the day agreed. Subject of conversation at every belay.
Martyn - Lead - 07/Feb/09 with Victoria Cassell

Hidden - Solo O/S - 07/Feb/09

Hidden - AltLd O/S - 07/Feb/09

Hidden - 2nd - 07/Feb/09

Hidden - 2nd O/S - 04/Feb/09

the juicy dangler - Lead O/S - 04/Feb/09 with carlene hill

Hidden - 2nd O/S - 04/Feb/09

donkster - Solo rpt - 04/Feb/09 with DaveNW

Hidden - Lead rpt - 04/Feb/09

Carly - AltLd O/S - 04/Feb/09 with Richard

ruaidh - 03/Feb/09 with Paul

beesleys - Solo O/S - Feb/09

tumbling wizard - Feb/09

Hidden - Solo O/S - Feb/09

Took the hardest lines to 2/3 then broke out onto steep neve to give liz experience.
philhilo - Lead rpt - Feb/09 with liz leng

wupert - AltLd O/S - Feb/09

sdawson1 - AltLd O/S - 30/Jan/09 with Ray

Perfect ice conditions, all the way to the top!
ChalkBall - Solo rpt - 13/Jan/09 with David Hunnisett

chadrads - Lead - 10/Jan/09 with Iwan jones-roberts

tractorbachcoch - 2nd rpt - 10/Jan/09 with Peter, Teresa

Simon Hodgson - AltLd - 10/Jan/09 with Chris Johnson

michael burrows - Lead rpt - 10/Jan/09 with margaret

First ice climb :)
Glyn Davidson - Solo O/S - 10/Jan/09 with Ali

Lady T - 2nd O/S - 10/Jan/09 with Peter, Iwan

no runners used, bit windy on top
rogersavery - AltLd O/S - 10/Jan/09 with Ed Taylor, Steve Bush

Climbed with Roger Savery too
tedburt - AltLd O/S - 10/Jan/09 with Steve Bush

Lallylandslider - 2nd - 10/Jan/09 with michael burrows

Ali H - Solo - 10/Jan/09 with Glyn

First ice climb. Moved together on most pitches
willson - 2nd O/S - 09/Jan/09 with Wills

Hidden - Lead O/S - 09/Jan/09

Hidden - AltLd O/S - 08/Jan/09

Hidden - AltLd - 08/Jan/09

First winter/ice climbing, amazing experience, roped up for the middle section and moved as a pair for the rest. Awesome!!
smallerrich - 2nd O/S - 07/Jan/09 with Swain16

Very plesant
JDSwain - Lead O/S - 07/Jan/09 with Rich Cannel

Iain Blanche and I blagged a day of work as condition were good. Had a good day out.
chrislikesstowford - AltLd O/S - 07/Jan/09

the ice was better still
katie75 - Lead - 06/Jan/09 with dave

First Ice climb! Awesome!
RachelP - 2nd - 06/Jan/09 with Jamie

Hidden - AltLd - 06/Jan/09

Hidden - Solo - 04/Jan/09

before work
barni - Solo O/S - 04/Jan/09 with Northern

2nd + 4th pitch lead, solo last 2 pitches
tractorbachcoch - AltLd O/S - 04/Jan/09 with Peter

chadrads - AltLd O/S - 04/Jan/09 with Iwan jones-roberts

4 pitches then soloed the rest. Great conditions, great build up of ice, taking 20cm ice screws all day with ease!! A doddle at the grade!
vincentvega - AltLd - 04/Jan/09 with kevin k

the ice was nice
katie75 - 04/Jan/09 with allan

FrankW - Lead rpt - 03/Jan/09 with Colin Adams

Alt leads on bottom two pitches soloed the rest
Jamie Light - AltLd O/S - 03/Jan/09 with Dom Stockton

Hidden - Solo - 03/Jan/09

I'm counting this as an onsight of Idwal Stream. My diversion on to the Chandelier while seconding is another matter.
cmsg - AltLd O/S - 03/Jan/09 with Kenny Watson

First time ever on Welsh ice - what a great start to the year! Decent conditions, very busy. Soloed with 'Fat' Phil.
Misha - Solo O/S - 03/Jan/09

The Bad Cough - AltLd O/S - 02/Jan/09 with Tom Williams

Different Steve - AltLd rpt - 02/Jan/09 with Martin Hore

Pitched one bit maybe tech grade 3? A steep wall to the side of the main stream itself. No harder than a II really if the line of least resistance is taken.
gareth r - Solo O/S - 02/Jan/09 with Hywel

eagleopus - Solo O/S - 02/Jan/09 with Gareth

Thin (ish)
Tom M Williams - Solo - 01/Jan/09

Night Solo
garythomas - Solo - Jan/09 with Mike Jepson

Hidden - AltLd - Jan/09

Hidden - 2nd - Jan/09

fun
philhilo - Solo O/S - Jan/09 with misha

Stuart Johnston - AltLd - Jan/09 with g taylor

guy stabler - 2009

mike.moss - Solo O/S - 2009

Just the upper section. lower bit's not fully formed
TGreen - Solo rpt - 02/Feb/08 with Rosie Henstock

Rosie Henstock - Solo O/S - 02/Feb/08

Hidden - 2008

rob1 - Solo - Jan/07 with Richard Wilkes

Addison - Jul/06

FrankW - Solo O/S - 20/Mar/06 with None

Possibly one of the best days of my life - scary and on thin ice. Absolutely amazing.
Pete E - 2nd O/S - 05/Mar/06 with Keith (my dad)

Paul Phillips - UKC and UKH - AltLd O/S - 04/Mar/06 with Bryony Weathers

ChalkBall - 2nd O/S - 01/Mar/06 with Luke Farrar

Hidden - Lead rpt - 01/Mar/06

Hidden - 2nd rpt - Mar/06

donkster - AltLd O/S - Mar/06 with mudders

My first winter route, Amazing!
richw2k2 - Solo O/S - 26/Feb/06 with Rob Grey

Lean
Tom M Williams - Solo O/S - 25/Feb/06

Nice icy scrambling..
Different Steve - Solo rpt - 25/Feb/06 with Mike Hams

A Crook - AltLd O/S - 25/Feb/06 with Dom Stockton

Hidden - Solo - 04/Feb/06

TGreen - AltLd O/S - 08/Jan/06 with Martin G

Ian McNeill - 2006

Hidden - AltLd - 2006

Hidden - Solo - 28/Dec/05

SteveM - Solo - 06/Mar/05 with Keith

tom_1985 - AltLd O/S - Mar/05 with Stu Ward

1st winter climb/lead & great fun too. 6am from car park to beat crowds and still 3rd party on route at 8!
Simon K - Lead O/S - Feb/05 with PR,JB

andygreen - 2nd - 12/Jan/03

Hidden - 08/Jan/03

bullybones - 2003

Hidden - Solo O/S - 02/Feb/01

Hidden - Solo - 28/Dec/96

michael burrows - Solo - 22/Dec/96 with steve ward

Hidden - 2nd - Jan/96

Daniel Wrightson - Lead O/S - Jan/96 with Olivia Horner

Hidden - Solo O/S - 22/Nov/93

nickcanute - Solo - Jan/91

JamieAyres - AltLd O/S - 1989 with Phil Windall

Hidden - Solo - 1980

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Voting
Total votes cast 180
hard III0 of 64
III0 of 64
easy III1 of 64
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II/III45 of 64
easy II/III8 of 64
hard II6 of 64
II0 of 64
easy II0 of 64
hard 50 of 56
50 of 56
easy 50 of 56
hard 40 of 56
41 of 56
easy 47 of 56
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easy 31 of 56
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Style of ascent

Soloed136 of 394 (34.5%)
Lead57 of 394 (14.5%)
Followed53 of 394 (13.5%)
Toproped1 of 394 (0.3%)
Alt Leads112 of 394 (28.4%)
Unknown35 of 394 (8.9%)

'Climbed'170 of 394 (43.1%)
clean O/S194 of 394 (49.2%)
clean β2 of 394 (0.5%)
clean rpt27 of 394 (6.9%)
dnf1 of 394 (0.3%)