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[Derek leading the delicate slab above the roof on Damnation VS 4c Polldubh, 2 kb]30m. No description has been contributed for this climb.

Ticklists: The 100 Best UK VS routes?, Ultimate Scottish Rock.

Photo: Derek leading the delicate slab above the roof on Damnation VS 4c Polldubh © Chris wilson
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PUBLIC LOGBOOKS
This climb is in 230 logbooks, and on 7 wishlists.

pamvdb17 - 2nd - 13/Sep/14 with Alys

Hidden - 26/Aug/14

Troy Tempest - 2nd O/S - 23/Aug/14

Hidden - Lead O/S - 23/Aug/14

Hidden - Lead O/S - 24/Jul/14

Found it tricky to arrange protection beneath the bulge without cams and had a quick rest on the rope. Committed to the moves and all went smooth after that!
Nath93 - Lead - 18/Jul/14

Hidden - Lead O/S - 30/Jun/14

Timothy Miller - Solo O/S - 14/Jun/14 with Mark chambers

alex toomey - 2nd O/S - 29/May/14

Wunderbar
alexmcmillan - Solo O/S - 29/May/14

Craig Holden - Solo O/S - 29/May/14

Moonstone Hippy - 2nd - 27/May/14 with Matt

Hidden - Lead O/S - 23/May/14

colin.morrison - 2nd O/S - 20/May/14 with Luke

jvarmstrong - 2nd - 15/May/14 with Chris

Chris Manasseh - Lead - 15/May/14 with Helder Machado, John Armstrong

Lawrie Brand - Lead rpt - 03/May/14 with MOD

jesss - 2nd - 03/May/14 with chris147

marshallb93 - Solo O/S - May/14

Hidden - Lead O/S - 29/Apr/14

Moonstone Hippy - 2nd - 29/Apr/14 with Naomi

holly138 - 2nd O/S - 20/Apr/14 with Tom B

Stuart Macfarlane - 2nd - 18/Apr/14 with Jeanie

arose - AltLd - 02/Apr/14 with Alfie Tipler, Hannah Francis

Tightsgirl - 2nd - 02/Apr/14 with Ali Rose, Alfie Tipler

guy757 - 26/Mar/14

K8Wilson - 2nd - 12/Mar/14

Cameron94 - Lead - 12/Mar/14

kagreen - 2014

Scott Rankin - Lead - 12/Oct/13

Hidden - Lead O/S - 07/Aug/13

Col Kingshott - Lead O/S - 27/Jun/13

Hidden - 2nd rpt - 24/Jun/13

Matt Bleesen - Lead O/S - 24/Jun/13 with James Cooper

tom.e - Lead O/S - 08/Jun/13 with Tim

Hidden - Lead - 08/Jun/13

gst - 2nd - 02/Jun/13 with Colwyn Jones

AGoodi - Lead O/S - 02/Jun/13 with Noemie Perret

noemie5438 - 2nd O/S - 02/Jun/13 with Robert Durran, Amy Goodill

Hidden - Lead O/S - 26/May/13

Hidden - 2nd rpt - 26/May/13

Hidden - Lead O/S - 25/May/13

RocKalina - 2nd O/S - 25/May/13 with Andyclimb

Self belay. just for fun between showers, fast drying route. x4. To tired to try anything else 4th day in a row here. Great route.
Denpov - TR O/S - 23/May/13

Hidden - 20/May/13

Stuart Macfarlane - Lead rpt - 18/May/13 with Jeanie

Put to bed Phil's previous back off.
Moonstone Hippy - 2nd - 17/May/13 with Phil

Hidden - 19/Apr/13

Hidden - Lead O/S - 03/Apr/13

Hidden - 23/Feb/13

Ewan Russell - Solo O/S - 17/Feb/13 with Myself!

captain - 2013

sgl0jd - 2013

Hidden - 2013

mzchambers - Lead O/S - 06/Oct/12 with James

1 rest before the crux after spending all my strength trying to get the in situ nut out.
gjt - 2nd dog - 23/Sep/12 with Stephen

Hidden - 2nd O/S - 21/Sep/12

With one fall going over the overhang. Good gear.
Harri777 - Lead - 09/Jun/12 with Naomi

Very cool route- overhang was bigger than it looked but excellent moves despite a stuck-wire delay.
NB Pixel - 2nd O/S - 09/Jun/12 with Harri!

morsy - 2nd - 27/May/12 with peter berwick

Pete23 - Lead - 27/May/12 with Stephen Mors

Hidden - Lead O/S - 22/May/12

freudy_love - Lead rpt - 20/May/12 with Luke Ellis

ZA - 06/May/12 with ross mcw

scallan022 - Lead O/S - 05/May/12 with scottie390

Hidden - Lead O/S - 01/May/12

machars - Lead O/S - 28/Apr/12 with Bjorn Verduijn

Hidden - 2nd O/S - 28/Apr/12

Hidden - 2nd - 28/Apr/12

Andy Moles - Lead rpt - 23/Apr/12 with Anna B

cat22 - 2nd rpt - 16/Apr/12 with Mike

Hidden - TR β - 12/Apr/12

georgedunton - Lead O/S - 12/Apr/12

Hidden - Lead - 30/Mar/12

steve.aisthorpe - 2nd - 26/Mar/12 with John Lyall

Possibly one of the best VS pitches I've ever done.
Liam Ingram - Lead O/S - 25/Mar/12 with Catrin Nichols

The Big Sender - 2nd O/S - 25/Mar/12 with rob askew

Adrianw - 2nd O/S - 25/Mar/12 with Sarah Hawker

Watched 2 other parties climb it beforehand, but still got the sequence wrong and fell off the crux. Managed second attempt. Nice contrast of the overhang and delicate slab above
sarah hawker - Lead dog - 25/Mar/12 with Adrian W

catrin289 - 2nd O/S - 25/Mar/12 with Liam Ingram

oliverk - Lead O/S - 24/Mar/12

Hidden - 2nd dnf - 24/Mar/12

alan moore - 2012

Mike_Watson_99 - Lead - 13/Nov/11 with Fiona

Fiona Reid - 2nd - 13/Nov/11 with Mike

borderline - 2nd O/S - 13/Nov/11 with Kenny R, Alison C

abbeywall - Lead rpt - 13/Nov/11 with borderline, K

Hidden - Lead O/S - 29/Aug/11

Stuart S - 2nd - 09/Aug/11 with Kim Hawker

CouchSurfer - Aug/11

smcw - 2nd - 05/Jun/11

Hidden - 04/Jun/11

Hidden - Lead O/S - 04/Jun/11

Sally Hudson - 2nd - 01/May/11 with Mike Scott

Hidden - Lead O/S - May/11

chapmand - Lead - 29/Apr/11 with Tom Crooks

Sally Hudson - 2nd - 29/Apr/11 with Connor Holdsworth

dav_713 - Lead - 29/Apr/11

burto - Lead O/S - 25/Apr/11 with hertha

gforce - Lead rpt - 25/Apr/11 with Emma

Better than Resurrection!
Mark Bull - Lead rpt - 18/Apr/11 with Gillian

Hidden - Lead O/S - 10/Apr/11

Stuzz - Lead rpt - 10/Apr/11 with Lou, Nick

Andy Moles - 2nd - 09/Apr/11 with Ferdia

ferdia - Lead O/S - 09/Apr/11 with Andy

scottveitch - 2nd - 09/Apr/11

isi_o - 2nd - 08/Apr/11 with Louisa Reynolds

very nice. varied with steep and slabby bits
tomdude - Lead O/S - 07/Apr/11 with marie

Hidden - Lead - Apr/11

Hidden - 2nd - 29/Mar/11

Rickrick - 27/Mar/11

isi_o - Lead - 24/Mar/11 with Al Halewood

Katie Long - Lead - 11/Mar/11 with Steve Perry

Steve Perry - 2nd - 07/Mar/11 with Katie Long

Johann - Lead O/S - 04/Mar/11 with Sarah Lewis

Hidden - 2011

Hidden - 2011

Hidden - 2011

glenngordon - Lead O/S - 01/Nov/10 with jerry millichip

stewart100 - Lead O/S - 10/Oct/10

Mike_Watson_99 - 2nd - 09/Oct/10 with Fiona

Top section is very bold
Fiona Reid - Lead O/S - 09/Oct/10 with Mike

marcushorgan - 2nd O/S - 25/Sep/10 with Clare Muir

Alistair616 - Lead - 07/Aug/10

Hidden - Lead - Aug/10

WTF gave this 4b? WTF only gave it **?
Ian Jones - 2nd rpt - 25/Jul/10 with Victor Manzanera Garcia, Tim Clarke

Hidden - Lead O/S - 25/Jul/10

Hidden - Lead - Jul/10

Hidden - 2nd - Jul/10

steep for VS but well protected and massive holds through the overhang, improbable looking but amazing climbing!
Woodiee - Lead O/S - 26/Jun/10 with sam webb

Hidden - Lead O/S - 19/Jun/10

Hidden - 2nd O/S - 19/Jun/10

Hidden - 2nd - 17/Jun/10

Hidden - TR - 16/Jun/10

crazy pierre - TR O/S - 14/Jun/10 with Paul Ireland, Rory Juss

Nice climb over a much harder looking overhang than it really is. Juggy first half and slabby second half but with good holds.
frume - Lead O/S - 14/Jun/10 with Andy Edwards, Rory Juss

Hidden - 2nd O/S - 14/Jun/10

Hidden - Lead O/S - 11/Jun/10

Hidden - TR O/S - 07/Jun/10

Stuzz - Lead O/S - 01/Jun/10 with Geoff

Moonstone Hippy - 2nd - 01/Jun/10 with Graham & Dean

Alistair616 - 2nd - 22/May/10

owenmcmurray - 2nd RP - 22/May/10 with Peter Abernethy

pete87abs - Lead O/S - 22/May/10 with Owen

PeteLoveless - Lead O/S - 22/May/10 with alistair matheson

vanderz - Solo O/S - 19/May/10 with patrick dawson

westaway - Lead O/S - 10/May/10

Nice route, intimidating roof but not as bad as it looks.
iceicebaby - Lead O/S - 09/May/10 with Sam Wood

Moonstone Hippy - 2nd dnf - 14/Apr/10 with Phil

Lawrie Brand - Lead O/S - 11/Apr/10 with Pete Nellist

Hidden - 2nd - 11/Apr/10

cat22 - 2nd O/S - 20/Mar/10 with Mike

Hidden - Lead O/S - 23/Feb/10

colinthrelfall - 2010

Hidden - Lead - 2010

Hidden - 2010

jcw - 2010 with Simon Richardson

Surely this is one of the best single pitch VS's in the land. Up there with Mickledore Grooves.
Ian Jones - Lead O/S - 04/Oct/09 with Dan Whaley

Hidden - 2nd O/S - 04/Oct/09

Harder than 4b definitely, no way could this be a hard severe if it had better gear. Lovely route though with nice moves through the overhang and a slightly run out top slab.
Smeggles - Lead O/S - 13/May/09 with Andrew Broadway

Seconded after lead climber let the second climber down from the overhang crux.
Jon Macleod - 2nd O/S - 13/May/09 with Ed Grindley

andybroadway - 2nd - 13/May/09 with Stuart Munn

Hidden - 2nd - 10/May/09

MelH - 2nd - 19/Apr/09 with A

Stuart Macfarlane - 2nd - 19/Apr/09 with Jeanie

Hidden - Lead O/S - 16/Apr/09

groovypiper - Lead O/S - 12/Apr/09 with mshorter

PMCV - 2nd - 11/Apr/09 with Mark

benclimbing - Lead O/S - 02/Apr/09

Hidden - 2nd - Apr/09

jack_eadie - 2nd - 20/Mar/09

mikemartin - Lead - 20/Mar/09

dave o - Lead O/S - 20/Mar/09 with Julia H

Hidden - 2nd O/S - 20/Mar/09

BRUCESTRAC - 2009

andymoin - Lead O/S - 23/Sep/08 with Sean

Got huckled by a Bat en-route.Good value for VS.
SeanB - 2nd O/S - 23/Sep/08 with Andy

Hidden - 2nd - Aug/08

GScot38 - Lead O/S - Aug/08

Chris wilson - 2nd - 11/Jul/08 with Derek

default_slipper - 2nd - 15/Jun/08 with tom sparkes

StuDoig - Lead - 08/Jun/08 with Dave Perks, Caroline Altare

DavPk - 2nd O/S - 08/Jun/08 with Stu Doig

sparkoclimb - Lead - Jun/08 with Webber

Hidden - Lead O/S - 27/May/08

subflux - 2nd O/S - 17/May/08 with Bill Wright

gaz.marshall - Lead O/S - May/08

griggj - 2nd - 20/Apr/08 with Will?

pimpy - Lead - Apr/08 with random bloke

Hidden - 2008

Ken Applegate - Lead O/S - Oct/07 with Matt Lander

Hidden - 2nd O/S - 20/Jul/07

George Bassant - Lead - 05/Jun/07 with Eleanor Forster

Stuart Macfarlane - 2nd - 27/Apr/07 with Helen

brianrunner - 2nd - Apr/07 with gavin rees

steve prior - Lead - Apr/07 with Roz C

gforce - 2nd - 31/Mar/07 with Dirk

Dirk Wallis - Lead - 31/Mar/07 with Grrr

abbeywall - AltLd - Mar/07

Captain Solo - Lead - 16/Oct/06 with Mark

Stuart Macfarlane - Lead rpt - 15/Oct/06 with Dave S

Hidden - Lead - 17/May/06

Hidden - 2nd - 19/Feb/06

Bargate_Champ - 2nd - 25/Jul/05

Boxy - Lead O/S - 02/May/05

Howard J - 2nd - Mar/05 with Steve Jolley

Stuart Macfarlane - 2nd - 05/Sep/04 with Andy C

Hidden - Lead O/S - Aug/04

seanyt - Lead - Apr/04

akhughes - 2004

with Peter and Gillian. VS 4b in the guide and pretty mad looking for the grade!
catt - 2nd O/S - Jun/03 with Gillian

Yourlead - Lead - 22/Sep/02 with Ian White

JiveWeasel - Lead O/S - 04/Aug/01 with Flexibility Boy, Mrs Weasel

Hidden - 2nd - 05/May/01

kjbix - 2nd - 01/May/00 with Dean Carpenter

fatboy_dean - Lead - 01/May/00 with kjbix

luckyjim - Solo - May/00

Hidden - Lead O/S - 1999

Hidden - Lead O/S - 1998

Struggled at overhang until John showed the way
the abmmc - 2nd - 1998 with John Workman

Hidden - Aug/97

Hidden - Lead - May/97

greenroom - 1997

Trobbo - Lead - 02/Jul/95 with andy hartley

Iain Thow - Lead - 21/Jun/95 with Chris Dodd

Alex also
Yourlead - Lead - 09/Oct/94 with Bill McNee

Hidden - Lead O/S - 09/May/93

Hidden - 1988

Lone Rider - Lead - 1986 with John Christie

Nigel Bond - Lead - 12/Jun/82 with Steve, Charlie Leverton

Users with this climb on their wishlist are:
y2keable, 65m moderate millington, CM1992, Nath93, Hidden, Hidden, sleeplessjb

Voting
Total votes cast 142
hard HVS0 of 50
HVS0 of 50
easy HVS0 of 50
hard VS5 of 50
VS45 of 50
easy VS0 of 50
hard HS0 of 50
HS0 of 50
easy HS0 of 50
hard 4c0 of 43
4c2 of 43
easy 4c36 of 43
hard 4b3 of 43
4b1 of 43
easy 4b1 of 43
hard 4a0 of 43
4a0 of 43
easy 4a0 of 43
3 Stars43 of 49
2 Stars6 of 49
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Style of ascent

Soloed7 of 230 (3.0%)
Lead107 of 230 (46.5%)
Followed83 of 230 (36.1%)
Toproped5 of 230 (2.2%)
Alt Leads2 of 230 (0.9%)
Unknown26 of 230 (11.3%)

'Climbed'116 of 230 (50.4%)
clean O/S95 of 230 (41.3%)
clean β1 of 230 (0.4%)
clean rpt13 of 230 (5.7%)
clean RP1 of 230 (0.4%)
dogged2 of 230 (0.9%)
dnf2 of 230 (0.9%)