Grasp the Nettle** E2 5b
[Me finding my way on Grasp The Nettle, 3 kb]Climbs the wall right of Red Flag past two pegs (if they are currently in place and not snapped off, etc). Relatively straightforward climbing but run-out, with the crux at around 4m. Grade debate rages colorfully on this one, but everyone in the know knows that death is inevitable and it's really E4.

Ticklists: Central Belt Extremes.

Photo: Me finding my way on Grasp The Nettle © CharlieMack
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This climb is in 261 logbooks, and on 7 wishlists.

Hidden - 2nd - 16/Sep/15

Hidden - TR dog - 03/Aug/15

samhyndman - TR O/S - 17/Jun/15

Hidden - 2nd - 23/Apr/15

MightyStew - 2nd rpt - 21/Apr/15 with Iain Howie

Toproped ages ago, led today. Good sustained route
HaddRoots - Lead RP - 21/Apr/15

Ooof, those pegs were missed - it's all there though.
salix - Solo rpt - 16/Apr/15 with Topher

nice route
Timothy Miller - Lead O/S - 14/Apr/15 with sammy D

James90 - TR rpt - 04/Apr/15

Good fun! very tough though!
Chris dyer - TR dog - 04/Apr/15 with Stuart Smith, Ash Murrell

Solid size 2 brass offset at crux. Good route
arose - Lead - 18/Nov/14 with Scott Brooks, Miles Mconville

stuc - 18/Oct/14 with Dutch

Stuart Macfarlane - 2nd - 11/Sep/14 with John D

el diablo - Lead - 11/Sep/14 with Stuart Macfarlane

Pat-H - 2nd β - 09/Sep/14 with mike

Shed - TR O/S - 30/Aug/14

Dr Toph - Solo rpt - 24/Aug/14

HaddRoots - TR O/S - 24/Aug/14 with AGilmour

Hidden - 2nd - 29/Jul/14

MightyStew - 2nd dog - 03/Jul/14 with Witold Mielczarek

whispering nic - Lead rpt - 28/Jun/14

Started raining half way up. Annual ascent.
stugreen75 - Lead rpt - 25/Jun/14 with Alex Vesco

seconded clean
ejj - 2nd - 16/Jun/14

John McKenna - Lead RP - 27/May/14 with Martin McKenna - UKC

Roberttaylor - Lead rpt - 21/May/14

Top-roped once. Pretty straightforward when you know the moves. Soft for E2?
fall-line - Lead RP - 15/May/14 with Anne Peale, Damon Davies, Sarah Kirton

skirton - TR - 15/May/14 with Donald Slater

Martin McKenna - UKC - Lead β - 14/May/14 with Gordon Lacey

Hidden - TR rpt - 28/Apr/14

Hidden - TR rpt - 28/Apr/14

Hidden - 2nd - 08/Apr/14

Natalie feather - Lead - Apr/14

Lovely warm day. Warm up. One bomber micro low down and then the pegs.
stugreen75 - Lead rpt - 12/Mar/14 with Ewan

Perfect positive crimps.
sikcby - Lead O/S - 24/Nov/13

steady climbing on positive crimps the whole way. Great fun.
Brian Pollock - Lead O/S - 22/Sep/13

Martin Mc - Solo rpt - 14/Aug/13 with Tas

Hidden - 31/Jul/13

Yes :) Didn't fall this time :)
jjax - 2nd rpt - 18/Jul/13 with Louise

Hidden - TR rpt - 18/Jul/13

Roberttaylor - Lead RP - 16/Jul/13 with Isolde

allyrocke - Lead rpt - 15/Jul/13 with Andrew Latham, Matt King

mattking_109 - 2nd - 15/Jul/13 with Ally Rocke

Warm up....a bit too hot for Limekilns today though. All felt a little greasy.
stugreen75 - Lead rpt - 12/Jul/13 with dominic jeff

David Stevens - Lead RP - 10/Jul/13 with James Priestly

James90 - 2nd β - 10/Jul/13 with dave

M Mathieson - TR dog - 10/Jul/13 with Scott, Chris

Hidden - TR rpt - 08/Jul/13

Hidden - 2nd - Jul/13

beautiful route. seems to be a common mistake to try and fiddle in a micro at the bottom, dont bother. good holds all the way!
Gabe Oliver - Lead O/S - 26/Jun/13

JosefGoeth - TR - 14/Jun/13

James90 - TR O/S - 02/Jun/13 with Marnoch

Lovely, wouldn't lead it for many moneys.
mhamiltonj - TR RP - 02/Jun/13 with James

gjd - Lead dnf - 02/Jun/13 with Hutch

Have been putting this off for years so glad to find it's actually not too bad
Neil Adams - Lead O/S - 01/Jun/13 with Ross B

annep11 - TR O/S - 17/May/13 with Robert Taylor

Roberttaylor - TR rpt - 17/May/13

salix - Lead rpt - 05/May/13 with Frazer

alex toomey - 2nd O/S - 19/Feb/13 with harry holmes, cesa sophia

Ross Barnes - Lead O/S - 17/Feb/13 with Nicola

Great crimpy climbing, lots of holds if you find them. Felt like an indoor 6b+[c] have the pegs been replaced they look newish?
son of thor - 2nd - 2013

robertmichaeladams - Lead - 10/Oct/12 with Andy H, Sam

a_hein - 2nd - 10/Oct/12 with Rob Adams

el diablo - 2nd - 05/Sep/12 with James Sutton

radioshed - 02/Aug/12 with Ross young

Hidden - Lead - 29/Jul/12

Hidden - TR rpt - 26/Jul/12

Hidden - Solo rpt - 17/Jul/12

had a go few days ago and couldnt nail the start, just had an off day, very easy and nice crimpy delicate moves.
rob10150 - Lead RP - 26/Jun/12 with craig cameron

First E2 second , hard start up to the first piton then holds get alot easier after the second pition.
craig cameron - 2nd O/S - 26/Jun/12 with Rab

Climbed and only clipped to two pegs big run outs
wee_jonny_gillespie - BAD SELLER - Lead O/S - 24/Jun/12 with Chris Brodie

gaz.marshall - Lead O/S - 18/Jun/12 with Dave

oliverk - TR β - 12/Jun/12

Hidden - TR O/S - 12/Jun/12

Not sure I would like to lead this just yet. First peg quite a bit off the deck !
ksneds - 2nd - 29/May/12 with Mike L.

Dr Toph - Solo rpt - 27/May/12

Hidden - Lead rpt - 25/May/12

sergio46 - TR rpt - 25/May/12 with Ian Jones

annual ascent
robertmichaeladams - Lead - 24/May/12 with Andi

Hidden - Solo rpt - 15/May/12

A couple of good micros which are easyish to place to start with and then pretty steady stuff. Spaced gear but soft climbing for the grade.
stugreen75 - Lead rpt - 09/May/12 with jason

jazzyjackson - 2nd - 09/May/12 with stuart

stugreen75 - Lead rpt - 29/Apr/12

stugreen75 - 2nd O/S - 12/Apr/12 with dominic jeff

Harry Holmes - Solo rpt - 01/Apr/12

Found a sneaky RP to settle my nerves before the first peg!
allyrocke - Lead rpt - 01/Apr/12 with Fergus Cuthill

stewnew - Lead O/S - 01/Apr/12 with dowser

markolst - Lead O/S - 31/Mar/12

Started too far over to the left and got stuck left of the peg. Came down and did it again ground up on the right hand side. Lovely route.
Mhairi G - TR RP - 24/Mar/12 with Herman

Hidden - TR O/S - 24/Mar/12

Harry Holmes - Lead rpt - 18/Mar/12 with Joanna

horsefeathers - 2nd O/S - 18/Mar/12 with Harry

Hidden - 2nd dog - Feb/12

JasonK - 2nd - 2012 with John Nelson

Iain2754 - Lead O/S - 29/Sep/11 with Lee

Hidden - 2nd dog - 29/Sep/11

Still hard to grade, seems like a long reach on the crux now, some holds fallen off I think?
Chad123 - AltLd rpt - 28/Sep/11 with Sam

dctarrant2000 - Lead rpt - 05/Sep/11 with Polly Tarrant

Nice flowing climbing. Best to soldier on to the peg rather than fiddle in micro wires!
John 'B' Hutchinson - Lead O/S - 22/Aug/11 with Donald Somerville

robertmichaeladams - Lead - 09/Aug/11 with Andi, Leisha

Hidden - 2nd O/S - 27/Jul/11

zoeduffin - 2nd - 04/Jul/11

Hidden - Lead O/S - 30/Jun/11

sneaks - Lead O/S - 30/Jun/11 with janey

managed to get up it this time, with only a wee fall. gets a lot easier after the 1st peg.
jjax - TR dog - 28/Jun/11 with claire

melville18 - TR rpt - 28/Jun/11 with claire melville

jacobfinn - TR dnf - 28/Jun/11 with jjax

Hidden - TR - 28/Jun/11

melville18 - TR dog - 20/Jun/11 with claire melville

Lovely climb, on a top rope at least! Hard moves getting past the wee overhang, then just a crimp-fest to the top. 2nd attempt after being too pumped on the first.
jacobfinn - TR dog - 20/Jun/11 with Graeme Melville

ahh fingers too sore to hold on as last climb of the day. prob wouldn't have made much difference tho as found the crux bloody hard work.
jjax - TR dnf - 20/Jun/11 with jason

Self belay
JP78 - TR - 30/May/11

karinh - TR O/S - 30/May/11 with harry

The pegs are good. I enjoyed this, especially after the first peg was clipped :)
sebrider - Lead O/S - 29/May/11 with R. Rider

Hidden - 2nd - 14/May/11

Thoms6974 - TR O/S - 03/May/11 with Dave S, Matt

David Stevens - TR O/S - 03/May/11 with Andy Thompson

Thin but good holds that scour your fingers.. Still can't believe I got up.
HeatReactor - TR O/S - 02/May/11

no micros
robertmichaeladams - Lead - 20/Apr/11 with Dom

Peter Rhodes - 2nd rpt - 07/Apr/11 with Gemma Gwynne-Stevenson

Hidden - Lead O/S - 07/Apr/11

Hidden - Lead O/S - 02/Apr/11

Hidden - 2nd - 02/Apr/11

Hidden - 2nd - 20/Mar/11

Harry Holmes - Lead O/S - 02/Mar/11 with Fran Coles

Hidden - TR rpt - 25/Jan/11

Really enjoyed the climb, crimpy, good footwork.
sergio46 - 2nd O/S - 27/Aug/10 with Ian Jones

Needed a warm up after weeks of sloth.
Ian Jones - Lead rpt - 27/Aug/10 with Serge Gomez

Hidden - Lead O/S - 21/Aug/10

Chris J Houston - Lead O/S - 21/Aug/10

T Break - TR - 29/Jul/10 with Helen

E3 in SMC guidebook 2004
mark1atkins - Lead - 24/Jul/10 with Mark Worsley

Hidden - 2nd O/S - 11/Jul/10

rob askew - Lead O/S - 11/Jul/10 with nick brindley

robertmichaeladams - Lead - 15/Jun/10 with Clare

andybroadway - 2nd - 15/Jun/10 with Brian Whitworth

Hidden - Lead - 31/May/10

shugsan - Lead rpt - 20/May/10 with John Nelson

repeat - still a cool route
robertmichaeladams - Lead - 18/May/10 with Tom

tomdude - 2nd rpt - 18/May/10 with rob

pocketsarah - 2nd rpt - 16/May/10 with andrew

make - 2nd - 28/Apr/10

Nice climbing on decent holds.
Sean Bell - 2nd - 16/Apr/10 with Neil Carnegie

really absorbing climbing, no noticeable crux, but nothing particularly easy either, just keep moving.
JamieSparkes - Lead O/S - 15/Apr/10 with Liyen Nhuyen, JohnBM, Claire Holland

squidgebob - 2nd O/S - 15/Apr/10 with jamie

A great climb to second, I should have cleaned it but the crux was tricky. I don't ever want to lead this climb.
Tom Baird - 2nd dog - 14/Mar/10 with Scott

Liam Ingram - TR rpt - 17/Feb/10 with Katie Main

Liam Ingram - Lead RP - 11/Nov/09 with Ally Rocke

allyrocke - 2nd - 11/Nov/09 with Liam Ingram

chrism225 - 2nd dog - 07/Nov/09 with dave

Hidden - 2nd - 31/Oct/09

Annual ascent..
Lawrie Brand - Lead rpt - 31/Oct/09 with Susan Mc

burto - Lead rpt - 14/Oct/09 with clare

thank you to the nice chap at the crag for a belay
robertmichaeladams - Lead - 04/Oct/09 with Ali

Hidden - Lead RP - 25/Sep/09

Hidden - Lead O/S - 06/Aug/09

messed up the crux but got through
ShoePolice - Lead β - 05/Aug/09 with Kate & Duncs

Didnt bother with gear til the peg, but the climbing is fairly straightforward. E2
Dr Toph - Lead O/S - 02/Aug/09 with Ally Hill

jim.macp - 01/Jul/09

kevg - Lead rpt - 26/Jun/09 with Cam

Hidden - 2nd O/S - 26/Jun/09

KatBlum - TR dog - 25/Jun/09

That peg is just too far away!
stuartmunn - Lead dnf - 23/Jun/09 with Chris Barnett

wouldn't want to fall off before the first peg, but fine after that. very enjoyable
tomdude - Lead O/S - 22/Jun/09 with andi and fede

sparkass - Lead O/S - 19/Jun/09 with Mike Shorter

Hidden - Lead O/S - 04/Jun/09

Ally Baba - Solo - 28/May/09

jonnie3430 - Lead O/S - 24/May/09 with John

Hidden - 2nd β - 21/May/09

Shower started just as I set off. Waited still it stopped, then climbed it on greasy holds. Still Ok though.
kevg - Lead rpt - 21/May/09 with Fraser

Got four wires in to protect crux. But very serious approaching the peg with the tree stump underneath. Easy E3 imho.
joe larner - Lead O/S - 17/May/09

Nice climb, tough and sustained.
Roberttaylor - 2nd dog - 17/May/09 with John Proctor

JdotP - 2nd dog - 17/May/09 with Luke Dangerfield, Joe Larner

Fell right at the start where i think the crux is by microwire placments needed to work left on crimps. Good crimpy climbing
pete87abs - 2nd dog - 19/Apr/09 with Dave Brigham, Thom Simmons

dj_brigham05 - Lead O/S - 19/Apr/09 with Thom Simmons

Hidden - Lead O/S - 19/Apr/09

CharlieMack - Lead O/S - 13/Apr/09 with Duncan Wallace

Hidden - Lead - 10/Apr/09

Hidden - Lead dog - 03/Apr/09

Hawkscry - Lead O/S - Apr/09

ropeaccessryan - 25/Mar/09 with Mike

Fergus Cuthill - Lead O/S - 18/Mar/09 with Fiona M

holly138 - TR dog - 18/Mar/09 with Fergus Cuthill

Hidden - 2nd dog - 18/Mar/09

CalumC - Lead rpt - 15/Mar/09 with Andy Moles

7om - TR β - Mar/09

MonkeyDawson - Lead - 2009 with Liz Brooker

Hidden - Lead O/S - 2009

Hidden - 2nd - 22/Nov/08

Chad123 - AltLd rpt - 25/Sep/08 with Viv and Duncan

Andy Moles - Lead O/S - 04/Sep/08 with Malc, Tom B

mikecopp - Lead - Sep/08

MonkeyDawson - Lead rpt - 28/Jun/08 with DJ Noblett

Hidden - 2nd - 27/Jun/08

Top roped it ages ago so putting it down as RP, didn't work it tho. Really shaky scary start (were's my head gone) then all good once I got to the peg. Got a surprising amount of gear in 3 good rps for crux, a good nut and 2 cams + pegs.
andymoin - Lead RP - 11/Jun/08 with Big Al

Got 1 decent(ish) micro and 2 bodyweight ones then moved up to the peg. Great climbing, bit unnerving though! I'd say E3 for the onsight.
Fultonius - Lead O/S - 07/Jun/08 with Mal Meech

Hidden - 2nd β - 07/Jun/08

Easy for grade...
MonkeyDawson - Lead RP - 07/Jun/08

Hidden - TR - 25/May/08

Hidden - Lead β - 20/May/08

D.Russell - Lead - 15/May/08 with Brittany

Hidden - Lead O/S - 02/May/08

Hidden - Lead O/S - 29/Apr/08

put micros in before the crux but they fell out continued until i reach 1st peg with no protection. then easier through to the top
D.Russell - Lead β - 29/Apr/08 with Adam

Lawrie Brand - Lead rpt - 26/Apr/08 with Dougie Harvey

Dougie Harvey - Lead O/S - 25/Apr/08 with Lawrie Brand

Felt super easy today - very positive holds all the way. E2 5b if you trust/use the small wires (at least 3 good ones), E3 if not..
Chad123 - AltLd rpt - 16/Apr/08 with Duncan

decs - 2nd O/S - 16/Apr/08 with Chad

Spade - 2nd - 13/Feb/08 with Jake Rodgers

Hidden - Lead O/S - 2008

Hidden - Lead O/S - 2008

MCL - TR - 2008

jess - Lead O/S - 2008 with martin

Hidden - 2008

Hidden - 2nd - 2008

Hidden - TR dnf - 04/Nov/07

akhughes - Solo - 15/Oct/07

simondunf - Lead β - 27/Sep/07 with beau

Lawrie Brand - Lead rpt - 25/Sep/07 with Malcolm Airey

mgeek - Solo rpt - Sep/07

Dangerous Dave - Lead O/S - 16/Aug/07 with Chris Adams

Hard to grade this one cos gear is fiddly at bottom, but not E3, E2 5b seems a fair grade. Nice rock and moves though.
Chad123 - AltLd rpt - 15/Aug/07 with Greg

gforce - Lead - 02/Aug/07 with Jason

Hidden - Lead O/S - 31/Jul/07

pocketsarah - 2nd dog - 30/Jul/07

Stuart Macfarlane - TR - 26/Jul/07 with Jeanie

Surely not 4 grades harder than the 'VS' aretes? 3 good little wires for the crux , then it is a path!
Ian Jones - Lead O/S - 24/Jul/07 with Tony Green

Only gear (bolt) as old as me
mars - Lead β - 15/Jul/07 with Lawrie Brand

Soft touch E3. An enjoyable crimpfest.
jazzyjackson - Lead β - 07/Jul/07 with Ally

Lawrie Brand - Lead rpt - 26/Jun/07 with Pete k

Stuart Macfarlane - 2nd - 23/May/07 with John D

Lawrie Brand - Lead β - 23/May/07 with Richie

Stewart B - Lead O/S - 20/May/07 with Graham Brown (Father)

Lawrie Brand - 2nd O/S - 26/Apr/07 with Richie

Greg Boswell - Lead O/S - 16/Apr/07

Hay - 2nd - Apr/07 with Greg

pete dd - Lead O/S - Mar/07 with Iain Swan

Hidden - 2nd - 2007

el diablo - Lead - 2007

Chris(cface!) - 2nd - 2007 with Dangerous Dave

mshorter - Lead O/S - 2007 with ross

Piglet - Lead - 2007

figfour - 2007

francois - 2nd - 20/Jul/06 with Kev, Alastair

Nick Beckett - Lead O/S - Jul/06 with various

Nick Beckett - Lead - Jun/06 with various

Roch - 2nd - 30/May/06

Hidden - TR β - Apr/06

waa my first e+ not as hard as a thought it would be
andymoin - TR β - 26/Feb/06 with Shelly Barbour

Chad123 - 2nd - 2006 with Emily

Hidden - Lead O/S - 2006

barney_edin - Lead RP - 29/Aug/05

paulpitcher - TR O/S - Jun/05 with Angus Dell & Lars

sustained 5b but excellent holds throughout, soft touch E3
dodfoster - Lead β - 13/Apr/05 with dom kehoe

catt - 2nd O/S - 24/Apr/04 with Kev

Dave Kerr - Lead - 05/Sep/03 with Colin Gregg

Hidden - Lead rpt - Jun/03

ali_robb - Lead O/S - Jun/03

whispering nic - Lead - May/03 with The Wife

Bruce Kerr - 2nd - 05/May/00 with Fergus Murray, Malcolm Davies

Nick Biven - TR - 07/Aug/92

Neil Henderson - 1988

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