Macleod's Variation** VS 4c
[Hargreaves' or Macleod's?, 2 kb]

Rockfax Description
A decent variation finish from halfway up the slab feels like a cop-out. Shuffle left to climb the shallow groove and short crack. © ROCKFAX

Ticklists: 14 In A Day, Stanage Routes BMC Graded List, Stanage 100 VD - VS, Peak Gritstone S-HVS **+.

Photo: Hargreaves' or Macleod's? © Jonathan Davey
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PUBLIC LOGBOOKS
This climb is in 212 logbooks, and on 4 wishlists.

Went the wrong way and missed Hargreaves' Original! Need to be good with slopers!
Nick_Merriman - Lead O/S - 22/Apr/15 with John Bish

Great lead by Mark, the start is harder than I remember (probably harder than 4c for those that can't reach their foot across onto the face), and it feels a little bit precarious all the way up.
RyanOsborne - 2nd - 19/Apr/15 with Mark, Elena

Found my mojo again!! Good route with some exposed sections. Eats cams all the way. Lovely route, very happy!
markh554 - Lead O/S - 19/Apr/15 with RyanOsborne

amccann - Solo O/S - 09/Apr/15 with Matt H, Dom Beer

Chrissy202 - 2nd RP - 07/Mar/15 with Jack

Hidden - 2015

Hidden - Lead O/S - 02/Nov/14

TRFrost - Solo O/S - 26/Oct/14 with J. Hulbert

Wizzy - Solo O/S - 12/Oct/14

Pero - Lead - 02/Oct/14

Radical-G - Lead O/S - 07/Sep/14

alaster tonge - Lead O/S - 24/Aug/14 with Assad Lahlou

morganator - Solo O/S - 18/Aug/14

papashango - Solo O/S - 09/Aug/14 with Elliot

mol - 2nd - 09/Aug/14 with Jesse

Palmer - Lead O/S - 09/Aug/14 with tim higgins

Alasdair88 - Solo O/S - 06/Aug/14

BRoe - Solo O/S - 30/Jul/14 with Will Lord, whitehouse_rhys

Hidden - Lead - 27/Jul/14

Hidden - Lead O/S - 24/Jul/14

Hainsy - Lead O/S - 20/Jul/14 with D Hainsworth

Hidden - 2nd - 12/Jul/14

LJC - Lead O/S - 01/Jun/14 with Little Ben

Matt Poole - 2nd O/S - 31/May/14 with Thomas Heaton

DaveB61 - Lead - 15/Apr/14 with Greg Jennings

Hidden - Lead β - 13/Apr/14

monkeyman79 - 2nd O/S - 11/Apr/14 with Dan Green, Dan Giblin

Petar Samkov - Lead O/S - 08/Apr/14

Hidden - 2nd O/S - 19/Mar/14

Lukem6 - Lead O/S - 24/Feb/14 with louise k

Nothing like as good as Hargreaves'.
Adam_42 - Lead O/S - 19/Jan/14 with David Noor

Alfie Conn - 2014

Dan Arkle - 2014

Hidden - 2014

Hidden - Lead O/S - 29/Dec/13

In the new guides looks like I was closer to the finish of this than Hargreaves. Interestingly the rock further right looked completely unpolished and caked in lichen...
JHiley - Lead - 23/Nov/13 with Drew

MartinPL - Lead O/S - 20/Oct/13

dannyboy83 - Solo O/S - 05/Oct/13

Hidden - Lead O/S - 03/Sep/13

Hidden - 2nd - 16/Aug/13

dsgarner - Lead O/S - 16/Aug/13 with Jade Phillips, Dave Rosser

Hidden - Lead O/S - 04/Aug/13

tomthecoolperson - Lead O/S - 30/Jul/13 with Andrew

Hidden - Lead - 04/Jul/13

Hidden - 2nd - 04/Jul/13

popebenedictus - Lead O/S - 29/Jun/13 with Adrian Scott

jshields - Lead - 16/Jun/13 with Mike Dowsett, Ed James

the power - Lead - 01/Jun/13 with deacon

Hidden - Lead O/S - 17/May/13

Hidden - Lead O/S - 03/May/13

Gumery - Lead O/S - 27/Apr/13 with Clint

Not really that distinct from Hargreaves Original really, should just be "climb the slab wherever you want" as it makes little difference to the grade or climbing.
slacky - Lead O/S - 23/Apr/13 with Giulia Forlati, Dan Bilton

I started up but wimped out and sent Chris to fetch the gear :(
louby - 17/Feb/13 with Chris Burn

ashtond6 - Lead O/S - 17/Feb/13

Excellent fun, balancy climbing, basically the same as Hargreaves Original but with a simpler, shorter and easier finish. Very cold & windy, fingers and toes numb after about a minute of climbing! Rock was good though with no ice or water. The start is harder than I remember!
Stuart Hurworth - TR RP - 28/Jan/13 with Marcus Levens

I have seconded the normal version of Hargreave's original before....
JdotP - Lead β - 13/Jan/13 with The Chosen One, The Boy Wunda

LesserTrochanter - 2nd - 13/Jan/13 with Jonathan Davey, John Proctor

Hidden - Lead O/S - 05/Jan/13

tjsx101 - 2nd - 05/Jan/13 with Rob Middleton

Nick Sillem - Solo O/S - 2013

As good as the original.
Paul Hy - Lead O/S - 23/Nov/12 with Deacon

Hidden - 2nd - 21/Oct/12

JonnySchofield - Lead O/S - 21/Oct/12 with Hal

John Brayshaw - Lead O/S - 19/Oct/12 with Erica

erica - 2nd - 19/Oct/12 with John

Hidden - Lead O/S - 29/Sep/12

rich_hw - Lead O/S - 27/Sep/12 with Tracey

Hidden - Lead - 22/Sep/12

Joe.Elliott1 - 2nd - 22/Sep/12

buxtoncoffeelover - Lead - 14/Aug/12

mountaingoatgirl - Lead - 14/Aug/12 with Nick Bean

Jonny M - Lead O/S - 13/Aug/12 with Karen Chalmers

Hidden - TR O/S - 13/Aug/12

Hidden - Lead O/S - 12/Aug/12

Hidden - 2nd O/S - 12/Aug/12

deacondeacon - Lead O/S - 10/Aug/12

Hidden - 2nd dog - 14/Jul/12

just finished before the rain hit, nice slab moves
adam carless - Lead O/S - 14/Jul/12 with dpmuk

patsaunders - Lead O/S - Jul/12

Dafydd Llywelyn - Solo O/S - 24/Jun/12

ross brinson - Lead - 25/May/12 with Hannah Watson

hannah watson - 2nd - 25/May/12 with Ross Brinson

Jake Young - Solo O/S - 05/May/12

Hidden - Lead O/S - 24/Mar/12

Have previously led Hargreaves.
gavinpeach - 2nd β - 18/Mar/12 with David Shelmerdine

I initially started out with the intention of climbing Hargreeves Original, but ended up doing this one!!!
David Shelmerdine - Lead - 18/Mar/12 with Gavin Peach

Pete Nugent - 2nd O/S - 01/Nov/11 with Dixie Flatline

joermann - Lead - 25/Oct/11

Falko - 2nd O/S - 19/Oct/11 with Steve M

stev1e.wilso - 2nd - 16/Oct/11 with Simon

simon1985 - Lead - 16/Oct/11 with Steve Wilson

tsjx - 2nd - 01/Oct/11

Hidden - Lead O/S - 27/Sep/11

Hidden - 2nd - 27/Sep/11

ian d f - Lead O/S - 27/Sep/11 with Steve Robinson

cragtyke - 2nd - 26/Sep/11 with glenn

rocktigger - 2nd O/S - 05/Sep/11 with Ben

migs493 - Solo O/S - 06/Aug/11

Karl Wooffindin - Lead O/S - 01/Jul/11 with Bryce Rigler

Hidden - 2nd O/S - 21/Jun/11

Gambit - Lead O/S - 21/Jun/11 with Barney

The more natural line up the slab, though not as good as Hargreaves' Original.
Dan Lane - 2nd O/S - 20/Jun/11 with Mark Rankine

mark20 - Lead O/S - 20/Jun/11

nick ferro - 11/Jun/11

Hidden - Lead O/S - 05/Jun/11

hazeysunshine - 2nd O/S - 21/May/11 with Ann-Marie

Hidden - Lead - 26/Apr/11

max_chan - Lead O/S - 12/Apr/11 with Trevor Wilson

jacobjacob - Solo O/S - 09/Apr/11

JulesV - Solo rpt - 07/Apr/11

Hidden - TR O/S - 07/Apr/11

John Lewis - Lead O/S - 26/Mar/11 with Karl, Maureen

Hidden - 2nd O/S - 26/Mar/11

Hidden - Lead O/S - 21/Mar/11

jade - 2nd - 21/Mar/11 with andy

Gale force winds and 3C!
Andy Peak 1 - 08/Jan/11 with Atila

David Smith - 2011

PAJames - 2011

jade - 2nd - 2011 with andy

Hidden - Dec/10

Ewan Russell - Solo O/S - 14/Oct/10 with Myself!

Liam Ingram - Lead O/S - 02/Sep/10 with Fiona Mellor, Holly Spice

pabbage - 02/Aug/10

jon_gill1 - 2nd O/S - 26/Jul/10 with jigi

Hidden - Lead O/S - 25/Jul/10

richcwanders - Lead - 15/Jun/10

Hidden - Lead O/S - 27/May/10

Hidden - 2nd O/S - 27/May/10

Hidden - 2nd - 23/May/10

This was the first time leading on the Black Slab that I found the fun outweighed the tension. Am finally relishing those grit slopers.
Steve Waters, Mynydd - Lead - 23/May/10 with Mike Tempest

Hidden - Solo O/S - 18/May/10

Hidden - 2nd O/S - 16/May/10

Hidden - Solo O/S - 24/Apr/10

LakesWinter - 2nd - 24/Apr/10 with AD

Hidden - Solo - 21/Apr/10

Hidden - 08/Apr/10

Hidden - Solo - 11/Mar/10

Chris Craggs - 2nd - 07/Mar/10 with Graham Parkes

pie_eater_pete - 2010

RossG - 2010

Hidden - 2010

cymjt - 2010

Adam1973 - Lead rpt - 04/Oct/09 with Ann S

Hidden - Solo - 23/Sep/09

frume - Lead O/S - 21/Sep/09 with Saff

Jon Dittman - 2nd - 22/Aug/09

b.hayley - 2nd O/S - 08/Aug/09 with alfredo

Alfredo - Lead - 08/Aug/09 with Ben H

maybe_si - Solo O/S - 03/Aug/09

Very good. The slopers don't stop till the short crack right at the top.
D Berry - Lead O/S - 24/Jul/09 with Claire Berry

Hidden - Lead O/S - 18/Jul/09

Brown - Solo O/S - 09/Jul/09 with Henry

Hidden - Lead O/S - 02/Jul/09

Like Hargreaves' the adjectival grade of this depends on the composition of your rack! Nice climbing on grippy slopers.
PaulWatson - 2nd O/S - 14/Jun/09 with Paul

lovely
Tanya Savage - 2nd - 13/Jun/09 with Neil Pacey

Neil Pacey - Lead O/S - 13/Jun/09 with Tanya Savage

Hidden - Solo O/S - 09/Jun/09

Hidden - Solo - 24/May/09

howlingbaboon - Lead O/S - 21/May/09 with Chris FitzHugh

Hidden - 2nd - 05/Apr/09

paul birch - Apr/09

SteveM - Lead O/S - 21/Feb/09 with Andy

Goose4 - 2009

Hidden - Lead - 2009

barni - Lead O/S - 31/Oct/08 with Jack

Hidden - Lead - 19/Sep/08

Hidden - Solo O/S - 15/Sep/08

Sardien - 2nd O/S - 17/Aug/08 with Toby Vye, Emlyn W. Roberts, Nigel Milner

tobydunford - 2nd β - 16/Aug/08

hailtryfan - 2nd O/S - Jul/08 with Costas

mr bounce - Lead O/S - 24/Jun/08 with Neil Hardy

nrhardy - 2nd O/S - 24/Jun/08 with Tim

Blisco - 2nd - 07/Jun/08 with Keith Ridgeway

petemeads - Solo - 05/Jun/08

Hidden - Lead O/S - 29/May/08

Hidden - Lead O/S - 21/May/08

Hidden - Lead O/S - 07/May/08

mikej - Lead - 22/Apr/08 with Rick Naylor

Hidden - AltLd - 11/Apr/08

flat eric - Lead O/S - 13/Mar/08 with Tom Swingy

Hidden - 2nd O/S - 13/Mar/08

Byronius Maximus - 2nd O/S - 10/Feb/08 with Alex Twist

Bold for first route
Twisty - Lead rpt - 09/Feb/08 with Byron Buck

mic_b - Lead O/S - 22/Jan/08 with fruitcake72

Rachel Somerville - Lead O/S - 01/Oct/07 with Robin Mitton

Adam1973 - Lead O/S - 16/Sep/07 with philnorv

Hidden - 2nd - 09/Jun/07

Graeme Hammond - Lead O/S - 08/Jun/07 with Alex Twist

Twisty - 2nd O/S - 08/Jun/07 with Graeme Hammond

Hedley - Lead O/S - 25/May/07 with Tim Hammell

timharrison - 2nd O/S - 24/May/07 with Hedley Proctor

Rampikino - Lead - 28/Apr/07 with Cat

This is probably the way I did Black Slab orginally - does have a couple of hard moves
Chris the Tall - Solo O/S - 03/Feb/07

drysori - 2007

Another James - Lead O/S - 03/Sep/06 with Kirsten S

crossdressingrodney - Lead O/S - 08/Jul/06 with victim of mathematics

victim of mathematics - 2nd O/S - 08/Jul/06 with crossdressingrodney

Hidden - Solo - 2004

Hidden - Lead - 23/Sep/00

Hidden - 2000

Simon Pearce - 1999

Roget - Solo O/S - 1992

Hidden - Lead O/S - 01/May/90

Iain Thow - Lead - 11/Sep/88 with Sally (Aston), Helen Jones

bullybones - Lead - 1984

Hidden - Lead - 03/Jul/83

MikeDowsett - Lead - 1978

rogerskews - 1972

mikej - Solo - 26/Dec/69 with Dave Williams, Ted Markham

mikej - Lead - 10/Sep/67 with Steve Radford, Ted Markham, Nigel Sumner

mikej - Lead - 01/May/66 with Mike Byles

mikej - Lead - 24/Oct/65 with Howard Furguson

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