Two Grooves** IV 6
[Two Grooves, IV,6, Brown Cove Crags, Helvellyn, 3 kb]80m, 2 pitches. pitch 1: (3) 50m Your choice of routes up the first 40/50 metres of the crag, any grade from tech 2/3 up. Belay on the sloping ledge, or from the ledge at the base of the groove. pitch 2: (6) 30m Head up the groove past a tricky move to a ledge, then up the slab and excellent crack to the right for a technical finish! Can also finish out left, but its not as good.

Photo: Two Grooves, IV,6, Brown Cove Crags, Helvellyn © MadProfessor
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This climb is in 52 logbooks, and on 9 wishlists.

ffdalton - Lead O/S - 01/Mar/14 with Dean Dalton

Hidden - AltLd O/S - 14/Jan/14

Hidden - AltLd O/S - 14/Jan/14

jules1990 - Lead O/S - 28/Mar/13 with Nat Norris

Nat norris - 2nd O/S - 28/Mar/13 with joss halford

DeanD - Lead O/S - Mar/13 with Cliff lowther

Hidden - Lead O/S - 09/Feb/13

Hidden - AltLd O/S - 26/Jan/13

First pitch was trivial with lots of digging through powder. The second pitch felt very hard and pumping due to poor feet. An impressive lead.
Ragingpossum - 2nd O/S - 26/Jan/13 with Ross Davidson, willbris3

Hidden - AltLd O/S - 26/Jan/13

Hidden - Lead O/S - 20/Jan/13

My third route. Managed ok on the first groove. Struggled on the right hand groove. Short route well protected
Radioactiveman - 2nd dog - 15/Jan/13 with Jerry

mfisher - 2nd O/S - 09/Feb/12 with Stuart Wood

Hidden - Lead dnf - 08/Feb/12

guy757 - 08/Feb/12

Hidden - Lead O/S - 03/Feb/12

ClimberJimmyB - AltLd O/S - 03/Feb/12 with Dan Matthewman

Hidden - 2nd dnf - 31/Jan/12

tsjx - 2nd O/S - 18/Dec/11 with Neil and Dave

Excellent. Short but sustained with good hooks and torques, well protected. Very enjoyable
petegunn - Lead - 15/Dec/11 with Davina

Hidden - 2nd O/S - 15/Dec/11

Jack Loftus - 2nd O/S - 10/Dec/11 with Nick

Hidden - Lead O/S - 10/Dec/11

Awesome climb! The hardest winter climb to date, the entire thing was banked out with 1ft of snow at its thinest and the crack was all filled with ice which meant there wasn't as much kit as i would of liked! Got to the point where you've got to decide to go either left or right and decided to go right, finally got a piece of gear i actually trusted and then torqued my way to glory! That final section is probably the best bit of winter climbing i've ever done! Felt tech 6 but overall I think in the conditions it was V 6, would like to do again when its not banked out!
joe.91 - Lead O/S - 06/Jan/11 with Thomas Reid, Iain Cumpstey

Hidden - AltLd - 2011

My first winter IV, fun ...but glad I didn't have to lead.
The Ivanator - 2nd - 18/Dec/10 with Ryan, Lee

Ryan finished with the left traverse halfway up the corner groove by mistake instead of exiting to the right. Still tech 6 by this route but likely inferior to the regular finish. Quality route all the same.
Big Lee - AltLd O/S - 18/Dec/10 with Ryan Wilson, Ivan Bicknall

Hidden - Lead O/S - 06/Dec/10

ccraigg22 - 2nd O/S - 05/Dec/10

First real experience with winter climbing, and it has me hooked! A very memorable route, with excellent solid engaging climbing. Safe as it comes and delightfully technical with loads of footledges/back and footing stances to rest in. No reason not to get on it! Soloed up to it direct. Didn't go the easiest way - in fact my first pitch option was harder than the actual route!!
jacobjlloyd - Lead O/S - 05/Dec/10 with Craig

I did the first easy pitch, Barra the tech 6 pitch. Didn't think the turf was poperly frozen, snow useless but it's hooks all the way. Long (1+ hour) queue for 2nd pitch
lithos - AltLd - 04/Dec/10 with barra

Hidden - Lead - 04/Dec/10

did the route after work, 2nd winter lead - beautifully technical and well protected.
nia - Lead O/S - 02/Dec/10 with harry

tjmillen - Lead - Dec/10 with stewart herbert, simon hall

Shuttsie - 2nd - Dec/10 with Andrea Sales

Hidden - Dec/10

Hidden - Lead O/S - 30/Nov/10

Hidden - 2nd - 28/Nov/10

jason - Lead O/S - 28/Nov/10 with manmike

Hidden - AltLd O/S - 18/Feb/10

Took left hand variation as it looked more of a direct and natural line. Challenging with delicate moves.
moose ridd - AltLd - 18/Feb/10 with M.Sadler

Hidden - Lead - 09/Jan/10

Hidden - 2nd - 2010

Hidden - Lead dnf - 31/Dec/09

Hidden - AltLd - 30/Dec/09

superb top pitch
John Kettle - AltLd - 30/Dec/09

First ever proper winter route, Absolutely brilliant
AMarchant - AltLd O/S - 23/Dec/09 with Drew Kelly

finished left as I didn't see the fine finishing crack!
Tom Phillips - Lead - 12/Feb/09 with dick

Andrew1 - Lead - 04/Feb/09 with Matt F

Hidden - AltLd - Feb/09

Christian Beck - 2nd - Jan/09

Hidden - 2nd O/S - 06/Dec/08

Users with this climb on their wishlist are:
OllieF, Mr Christian, chris p duck, Charlie Zephyr Booth, iksander, tomhull

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