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Holly Tree Direct* HVS 4c

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This climb is in 422 logbooks, and on 9 wishlists.

Justin Shiels - Lead - 13/Aug/14 with Chris

Ken Taylor - AltLd O/S - 22/Jul/14 with Steve Livingston

noemie5438 - AltLd O/S - 20/Jul/14 with Amy Goodill

Route seemed pretty dirty and unclimbed. Couldn't figure out the step across, eventually swung across on gear. Rest of the route was fine.
AGoodi - AltLd - 20/Jul/14 with Noemie Perret

Rob Rocket - AltLd rpt - 12/Jul/14 with Neil Porter

I led P2, straight through to top, skipped the tree belay. Enjoyable, but felt contrived. Took a while working out where to traverse at the start.
1poundSOCKS - AltLd O/S - 30/Jun/14

P1- Matthew ran 2&3 togethor. Line a bit contrived.
bobpilgrem - AltLd O/S - 30/Jun/14 with Matthew

Not a good choice of route if you are climbing as a three.
mikeyjbs - AltLd O/S - 27/Jun/14 with Bryan Malone, Patrick Radford

barni - AltLd rpt - 16/Jun/14 with Bob

pretty crap climbing 3 stars in the new guide...
scott quinn - AltLd O/S - 12/Jun/14

alice_l - Lead O/S - 26/May/14 with Geoff

Hidden - AltLd - 25/May/14

wrapped in bacon - AltLd O/S - 25/May/14 with john (Leeds), Daryl

Trobbo - AltLd - 17/May/14 with simon fenna

Al Aston - 2nd O/S - 17/May/14

Tim Rodgers - AltLd - 16/May/14 with Allan Aston, Mark Anstiss

rich_hw - AltLd O/S - 05/May/14 with Pete_PCC

apw - AltLd - 05/May/14 with Richard Williams

lead the first 2 pitches, but bailed out at the crux. Graham lead pitch 3&4 in 1 go and David seconded it. I have to go back some time and finish it.
blue-icefox - AltLd dnf - 05/May/14 with David Barclay, Graham

2010_graham - AltLd O/S - 04/May/14

redshapedfriday - AltLd O/S - 12/Mar/14 with Mike Watling

mwat - AltLd - 2014

origamib - 2nd O/S - Nov/13

Jolly good fun, just about merits HVS. As two pitches.
Peter Metcalfe - AltLd - 29/Sep/13 with joe_lancs, Cath Sullivan

Jeanie ran the first two guidebook pitches together, I led the next and Jeanie led the final pitch. Found the traverse to the groove hard, took several attempts.
Stuart Macfarlane - AltLd O/S - 28/Sep/13 with Jeanie

foostu4 - AltLd O/S - 22/Sep/13 with George Humphery

Hidden - 2nd - 22/Sep/13

Steve Lenartowicz - Lead - 26/Aug/13 with Clare

Anthony Dixon - Lead O/S - 23/Aug/13 with Alan

p2 + p4
samuel.stevens - AltLd O/S - 23/Aug/13

joeflan - AltLd O/S - 22/Aug/13

Hidden - Lead - 19/Aug/13

First pitch of Pluto, other pitches as one.
Peter Metcalfe - Lead - 06/Aug/13 with Shaw Brown

Started up Pluto, lead pitch 2 of Pluto and the reversed it. Finished up this! First pitch of Pluto and then finishing up HTD is a good combo.
GPN - Lead rpt - 06/Aug/13 with Annette

Shaw Brown - 2nd - 06/Aug/13 with peter metcalfe

With p1 of Pluto (very good)
net - 2nd - 06/Aug/13 with George

MFB - Lead rpt - 25/Jul/13 with MB

I did P1,2 and 4 Nicho did 3
jules1990 - AltLd O/S - 22/Jul/13 with Nicho Verney

Hidden - AltLd O/S - 21/Jul/13

sparkass - Lead O/S - 07/Jul/13 with Tom Airnes

dtalbot - AltLd - 07/Jul/13 with Charles S

Steve Woollard - AltLd - 03/Jul/13 with Josh Fawcett

Lead P1+2, slipped on traverse and had to ab off after hitting ledge
tmather - AltLd dnf - Jul/13

Simonfarfaraway - AltLd - 26/Jun/13 with Ben Francis

Little B - AltLd - 26/Jun/13 with Simon

Nice move to unlock the lower traverse that took a bit of working out, followed by a short, steep section of climbing. We were sandbagged by the 'VS 4c' in the '89 Langdale guide!
BTphonehome - AltLd O/S - 09/Jun/13 with Pat

Tried to link P1,2,and 3, but boinked at P3 crux onto in-situ nut; lowered to ledge and let Bram finish the day in two pitches; I got suckered into traversing high, but still had a tough go when on TR
Padraig-US - AltLd dog - 09/Jun/13 with Bram

carl_123 - AltLd O/S - 08/Jun/13

rob.grafton - Lead - 01/Jun/13 with Jim

alaster tonge - Lead β - 31/May/13 with Assad Lahlou

only climbed p3&4 as a single pitch.
duzinga - Lead O/S - 26/May/13 with Jie

Hidden - 2nd O/S - 25/May/13

Hidden - Lead - 25/May/13

In the sun :-)
Adi Hooper - Lead - 24/May/13 with Duncan Ward

Hidden - AltLd O/S - 08/May/13

have definitely got to come back and lead this route..
Frank Blakeley - 2nd O/S - 06/May/13 with Mark

Julian Cooper - 2nd O/S - 06/May/13 with Stuart Knott

Rob Rocket - AltLd β - 30/Apr/13 with Rog Wilko

Rog Wilko - AltLd - 30/Apr/13 with Rob Rocket

Very nice
alexmcmillan - 2nd O/S - 27/Apr/13 with Phil Jennings

Went to high and went through the overhang.
Samuel Wainwright - Lead O/S - 27/Apr/13 with Emma Smith

Hidden - 2nd O/S - 27/Apr/13

Hidden - AltLd O/S - 20/Apr/13

Hidden - 04/Apr/13

Trevera - AltLd - 01/Apr/13

flying_red_squirrel - Lead - 03/Mar/13

Hidden - Lead - Feb/13

bclifton - Lead - 2013

Really good fun middle pitch, found the step across pretty hard and almost fell off
A Mountain Journey - Lead - 2013 with Frank

Convinced myself i'd fall off this, but didn't. Middle pitch felt very hard
A Mountain Journey - Lead - 2013 with Frank, Kate

Lead pitches 1 and 3.
MarkRoe - AltLd O/S - 10/Oct/12 with Luke Edwards

Luke W Edwards - AltLd - 10/Oct/12 with Mark Roe

Hidden - AltLd - 10/Oct/12

M
petekeron - AltLd O/S - 08/Oct/12 with Chris Wright

Hidden - AltLd O/S - 07/Oct/12

Hidden - AltLd - 06/Oct/12

Hidden - AltLd O/S - 06/Oct/12

Marq - AltLd O/S - 23/Sep/12 with Helen C (LMC)

Stone Muppet - 2nd O/S - 04/Sep/12

paul horabin - AltLd - 04/Sep/12

Led P1 & P3. Took a couple of goes (separated by some air time) to do crux move on P3. Not 4c. Probably not even 5a.
tsjx - AltLd - 02/Sep/12 with John Mc

kato'sdad - AltLd - 28/Aug/12 with paul horabin, conan harrod

lead P2 hanging out of my ass / dry wretching all the way up - powerful stuff in excess at the old dungeon ghyll last night - felt a bit grovelly in the groove, but then found out there were delightful good holds on the LH arete.
Woodiee - AltLd O/S - Aug/12 with josh wyatt, sam webb

Hidden - AltLd O/S - 15/Jul/12

AndyT1151 - AltLd - 13/Jul/12

Adi Hooper - Lead - 12/Jul/12 with Alex Stothert

Hidden - AltLd - 12/Jul/12

stephen.W-S - Lead - Jul/12

hamishjoe - AltLd O/S - 19/Jun/12

Hidden - Lead O/S - 03/Jun/12

Hidden - 2nd - 03/Jun/12

Hidden - 2nd - 03/Jun/12

Hidden - Lead - 31/May/12

ST3V10 - Lead - 26/May/12

mcglenr25 - AltLd O/S - 12/May/12 with Angus McKendrick

Goose4 - AltLd O/S - 12/May/12 with Ryan McGlen

crux move felt a bit too cheeky to be 4c, well protected though. Cold route in the wind!
r_o_b_h2 - AltLd O/S - 12/May/12 with Tom Woodstone

dannyboy83 - AltLd O/S - 05/May/12 with Nils

Hidden - AltLd rpt - May/12

Tony Holdsworth - Lead O/S - 15/Apr/12 with Rupert Creed

Martin Davies - Lead rpt - 15/Apr/12 with Alice du Preez

Hidden - 2nd O/S - 15/Apr/12

martrin - AltLd - 05/Apr/12 with Colin Smith

Nice VS - apart from one move which is about 5b.
colin smith - AltLd - 05/Apr/12 with Martin Young

adamjeffs - AltLd O/S - 31/Mar/12

Lead pitch 1 and 3. Good gear high up on the left for pitch 3. Then down climb 2 meters and cross the slab.. Long legs help!! But its not hard. I felt the moves up the groove after harder, or more in keeping withe grade.. HVS.
Lee Sheard - AltLd O/S - 30/Mar/12 with elsier

Lead pitch 2 and 4. Pitch 3 quite tricky climbing up the groove
Elsier - AltLd O/S - 30/Mar/12 with Lee Sheard

roberto18 - AltLd O/S - 25/Mar/12 with Dad (Mike Bridges)

Hidden - AltLd rpt - 21/Mar/12

Hidden - AltLd - 21/Mar/12

Tightsgirl - Lead - 18/Mar/12 with DAJ, Clare Francis

Peter Holder - Lead O/S - 05/Mar/12 with Nick Michel

Hidden - AltLd - Mar/12

Callum Anderson - 2012

Rich Thornton - 2nd - 28/Oct/11 with James Harland

Hidden - Lead - 18/Sep/11

Err... started up 'Original Route' (S 4a) which shares P1 with Holly Tree Direct; P2 on OR then belayed from the obvious stance which apparently isn't the "pinnacle". Started P3 "right 3m" as per guide but ended up rounding an arete from a roof on poor gear to a slab, stepped right into grove of HTD. Finished up P3 and P4 of HTD
TimKnight - Lead O/S - 28/Aug/11 with Owen Daniel, Jen Shutt

Mark D - Lead O/S - 21/Aug/11 with Laurence Everitt

markfairbank - AltLd O/S - 21/Aug/11 with Paul Sheehan, Sandra Lee

Laurence Everitt - 2nd O/S - 21/Aug/11 with Mark D

chrisallan - AltLd O/S - 21/Aug/11

Started via first pitch of Pluto (the 4c crack)
joe_lancs - Lead O/S - 14/Aug/11

Hidden - AltLd - 14/Aug/11

Fell on step right, swung, then aided to reach the groove.
Mr Fuller - 2nd dog - 31/Jul/11 with Crazy Tom, Dave Williamson

Hidden - Lead O/S - 31/Jul/11

Hidden - 2nd dog - 31/Jul/11

Hidden - Lead rpt - Jul/11

Lead fitst pitch.struggled on second pitch step right. Really good route
Matt Schwarz - AltLd - 28/Jun/11 with Chris walters, Sally lisle

Hidden - AltLd - 22/Jun/11

Hidden - 12/Jun/11

APRS - AltLd - 12/Jun/11 with Matt Robinson

1st and 3rd pitch.
Matt_L_Robinson - AltLd O/S - 12/Jun/11

Hidden - Lead O/S - 11/Jun/11

Hidden - AltLd O/S - 11/Jun/11

Lead/ second 4 pitch After work evening climb Excellent route, top two pitches bold climbing
Josh Litten - 10/Jun/11

scorky345 - AltLd - 02/Jun/11 with Tim Oates

tim20 - AltLd - 02/Jun/11 with sam corcoran

Alexstone - Lead O/S - Jun/11 with Seth

First HVS after the plaster came off!
Shaw Brown - Lead - 29/May/11 with Judith Neaves

Hidden - AltLd - 21/May/11

Grabtheslab - Lead - 10/May/11 with nick

A nice route but got very wet! Would like to have another go in the dry.
ceaddiso - 2nd - 09/May/11 with Conan

Just managed to do the step across before the heavens opened. A proper drenching.
Conan - Lead - 07/May/11 with Clare A

susan mc donald - 2nd - 07/May/11

lead pitch 1,2 & 3. Crux to pitch 3 was tricky finding the right way across the slab. Good fun though
steveleahy - Lead O/S - 04/May/11 with Josh Litten

Hidden - AltLd - 04/May/11

tjmillen - Lead - May/11 with vicky

Hidden - Lead - 09/Apr/11

esther - AltLd - Apr/11

Awesome!
greenroom - Solo β - 03/Mar/11

Steve Lenartowicz - Mar/11

pitch 1 deviation from original route
Andrew_ing - AltLd - 28/Jan/11

Hidden - 2011

David Smith - 2011

Hidden - AltLd - 2011

Ed F - AltLd O/S - 20/Nov/10 with Drew

Decided against step right. Reversed down and finished up Original Route.
shark - Solo dnf - 16/Oct/10

Hidden - AltLd O/S - 16/Oct/10

HansUDes - AltLd O/S - 16/Oct/10 with Bradley Morrell

Hidden - AltLd O/S - 12/Oct/10

Hidden - AltLd dog - 09/Oct/10

Went direct on the 2nd pitch and ended up pulling on nuts! I'd say about 5b.
allyrocke - Lead dog - 09/Oct/10 with Katie Main

Hidden - AltLd O/S - 11/Sep/10

simon1965 - AltLd O/S - 04/Sep/10 with dom

nia - AltLd O/S - Sep/10 with Richard

alaster tonge - 2nd - 30/Aug/10

schof - AltLd O/S - 22/Aug/10

P1 me, P2 Bob and P3 Me. The move at the start of P2 is interesting and can be done going high or staying low. Grrove is good and steep. P3 a bit soft for 4c.
eldre070 - AltLd O/S - 19/Aug/10 with Bob Henson

Hidden - Lead O/S - 15/Aug/10

Led P1+3
KevB - AltLd O/S - 14/Aug/10 with Chris W

Adam1973 - AltLd rpt - 08/Aug/10 with Ann S

Led 4b pitch and easy top of final pitch
Ann S - AltLd - 08/Aug/10 with Adam

Hidden - AltLd O/S - 08/Aug/10

Lead pitches 3 and 4 together.
jwpil - AltLd O/S - 08/Aug/10 with Mat

Hidden - Lead O/S - 04/Aug/10

Dunx - AltLd O/S - 04/Aug/10 with Joe M

Led p1 and p3. Nervy 3rd pitch. Remainder of the climb is straight forward. Went past the original belay on pitch 3 and belayed at the oak tree. Had a good chat whilst belaying with two ladies from the Kendal Mountaineering Club who were doing Holly Tree Traverse.
Alaric - Lead O/S - 03/Aug/10 with Neil

Led P2 & 4.
victim of mathematics - AltLd O/S - 01/Aug/10 with Dan

Led P1 and P3. Took a fall on P3 trying the traverse too high. Was fine once I tried at the correct level.
dpmUK - AltLd dog - 01/Aug/10 with victim of mathematics

kylebradshaw - AltLd O/S - Aug/10 with Joe Kenny

That slab is actually quite hard...or maybe it's just difficult to read and I climbed it completely wrong.
theotherpetehill - Lead O/S - 02/Jul/10

On trip with Warren, Andy and Al.
scottbecker - 2nd O/S - Jul/10 with Al

in 2 pitchs
tomhull - AltLd rpt - 30/Jun/10 with frith wood

TerryB - 2nd O/S - 27/Jun/10

Hidden - AltLd O/S - 27/Jun/10

Rachel Somerville - 2nd O/S - 19/Jun/10 with Trish, Al Metelko

after both of us finding different ways across slab of p3 and both thinking it was easier than first impression, then Simon belayed too early, and consequently I went onto rib too early - made it a bit harder.
Little B - AltLd O/S - 16/Jun/10 with Simon

Chriswallis2 - Lead O/S - 14/Jun/10 with Joycey

P1&2 as one and P4
petellis - AltLd O/S - 22/May/10 with Cleric James Koran

Tricky crux. Bit of a sandbag at 4c unless there's a trick to it that's not at all obvious, felt more like 5b the way I eventually went. Safe at least.
jkarran - AltLd - 22/May/10 with Pete

Hidden - AltLd - 18/May/10

1st and 2nd pitch - Hol; 3rd pitch - me; 4th pitch - Hol. Finished 3rd pitch at the tree, above where guidebook suggests. Disappointing route - overrated. 3rd pitch was harder than 4c too!
DavidR - AltLd O/S - 02/May/10 with Holly Adamthwaite

Hidden - AltLd - 02/May/10

first HVS woop woop! one nice bold move around arete
mrstarwarsman - AltLd O/S - 01/May/10 with john tanner

JW p1 & p2 (run together), AG p3, MT p4
JGW - Lead O/S - May/10 with Matt Tilley, Ali Gurney

Hidden - AltLd - May/10

twoplates - AltLd O/S - 26/Apr/10 with Andy S

Tom belayed at the Oak Tree (not much of a belay further down), so I tried to follow the route by downclimbing from the belay and then stepping out left where you're meant to. However, this meant I couldn't put any gear in and it got quite tricky futher up and a fall would have been severe, so I bailed and downclimbed again and pendulumed back into the chimney, climbed back up to the oak and then stepped out left back onto the route.
Andy S - AltLd O/S - 26/Apr/10 with Tom S

darlolad - AltLd O/S - 24/Apr/10

tim newton - AltLd O/S - 24/Apr/10 with ben hiles

Adi Hooper - AltLd - 20/Apr/10 with Roger Ward

khawk - AltLd O/S - 18/Apr/10 with DT

James Moyle - AltLd O/S - 14/Apr/10 with T.Moores

marcushorgan - Lead O/S - 12/Apr/10 with Clare Muir

Lead the first 2 pitches as 1 (OS). 3rd pitch Step across gave me disco leg and my gear was shocking (All most backed off). Got it done clean (Beta). 4th pitch I second to top. (OS)
Chi Cheng - AltLd β - 11/Apr/10 with Dan Jackson

j_turner023 - 2nd - Apr/10 with Ed Luke

Hidden - Lead O/S - 08/Mar/10

rhyspitze - 07/Mar/10

Hidden - Lead O/S - 06/Mar/10

Andrew1 - Lead - 13/Feb/10 with Hulda

Hidden - 2nd - 13/Feb/10

McDan - 2nd - 2010 with Nick Michel

zach.stone - 2nd β - 2010 with Peter Hill

Hidden - 2010

Hidden - AltLd O/S - 2010

drysori - 2010

Shaw Brown - AltLd - 08/Nov/09 with Loz

Hidden - 2nd - 10/Oct/09

gethin_allen - 2nd - 27/Sep/09 with neil

toasted - AltLd - 23/Sep/09 with Simon Whitehead

simonw1 - AltLd O/S - Sep/09 with Allan Watson

Pitch 3 must be the most frequent spot for going seriously off-route in Langdale! You have been warned! By the way, there is now no holly, only a nice oak at end of pitch 3.
Rog Wilko - AltLd - 05/Aug/09 with Pete Nugent

Led the final 4c pitch
fallingrocks - AltLd - Aug/09 with Mike "Oz" Osmund

Hidden - Lead O/S - 24/Jul/09

Led P2
alisonk - AltLd O/S - 18/Jul/09 with Ian B

ianburton - Lead O/S - 18/Jul/09

nakedave - Lead - 10/Jul/09 with liamL

All in all ok - not quite the knock out route we'd thought.... 1st 2 pitches 2gether pretty easy, 3rd hard move right, 4th easy going once you've moved left to the rib. Just great 2 be back on rockin!?
Timo Austino - Lead O/S - 10/Jul/09 with Nats

Great route, climbed the 5b variation on the third pitch which goes right up into the overhanging groove above just before the step out right, then on the step out onto a tiny shit sloping edge with your right foot, match hands on alright hold and then move again right into gulley for good footholds. Gets the heart rate going for sure.
liaml89 - Lead O/S - 10/Jul/09 with Dave Thornley

Nigel Coe - AltLd - 08/Jul/09 with Alan Walmsley

Hidden - AltLd - 27/Jun/09

robin heath - AltLd O/S - 27/Jun/09 with neil pope, tom wild

Hidden - AltLd O/S - 08/Jun/09

Hidden - Lead O/S - 08/Jun/09

Hidden - AltLd - Jun/09

Eventually got the traverse, after refusing to believe that was where it went and trying a number of massively difficult variations. Once you get it right, I think 4c is fair. Recommend continuing P3 to the oak tree where there is a decent ledge for a belay. Had the bonus of seeing a peregrine tearing past in very close pursuit of a pigeon (which made it into the woods)
jonny taylor - AltLd O/S - 31/May/09 with Andy B

Roger Cruse - AltLd O/S - 30/May/09 with Kris

Lead first 2 pitches and retreated from hard step across on 3rd. Seconded up straight after.
CMorris - 2nd dog - 24/May/09 with John Roe & Rob Patchett

Also with Chris Morris. I led the first two pitches as one, easy for the grade. Rob led the crux, felt much harder than the grade.
John Roe - AltLd - 24/May/09 with Rob Patchett

Hidden - May/09

Led first 2 pitches as one. Polly led 2nd two pitches as one also.
MDowson - AltLd O/S - 26/Apr/09 with polly

Tricky traverse second pitch
dowy - AltLd O/S - 17/Apr/09 with wilky

decs - AltLd - 06/Apr/09 with Bart and Tim

Led last pitch.
bullwinkle - AltLd O/S - 06/Apr/09 with Bart & Duncan

Hidden - AltLd O/S - 06/Apr/09

Hidden - AltLd O/S - 03/Apr/09

tricky traverse.
dowy - AltLd O/S - Apr/09

benchwarmer - 2nd - 30/Mar/09 with Owen Barnicott, Justin Hughes

Only to Ledge
Renegade_Pony - 30/Mar/09 with Owen Barnicott, Ewan Brown

First and 2hd pitch
barni - Lead O/S - 30/Mar/09 with Ewan

step across slab on 3rd pitch better than expected, but groove on other side steep and awkward
Tanya Savage - 2nd - 29/Mar/09 with Neil Pacey

Fantasic route, the chimney/groove on the 3rd pitch felt awkward and steep, I think overall it deservers HVS 5a.
Neil Pacey - Lead rpt - 29/Mar/09 with Tanya Savage

Hidden - Mar/09

Hidden - 2nd - 21/Feb/09

Hidden - AltLd - Feb/09

Hidden - 2009

greenroom - 2009

Seymore Butt - 2009

Hidden - AltLd - 2009

Lead crux pitch, stepped across too high as many do so felt hard. Cracking route!
Matt crawford - AltLd O/S - 30/Dec/08 with Taba

Hidden - 2nd O/S - 30/Dec/08

design crisis - Lead - 30/Nov/08 with Shaun

oliverthomp - AltLd - 22/Oct/08 with Richard Atkinson

cherad - AltLd O/S - 22/Oct/08 with oliver thompson

ran 1 & 2 together Eric did high traverse !!! 5b not easy :o(
chris.mac - AltLd O/S - 28/Sep/08 with eric & terry

chris.mac - AltLd - 28/Sep/08 with eric & terry

Hidden - AltLd - 21/Sep/08

John Kettle - AltLd - 10/Sep/08

Hidden - Lead - Sep/08

Very nice, warren ran up easy p1&2 in one pitch, then I climbed the grove and belayed above the oak. Warren did one short pitch to get us out. All the action seamed to be in the grove with an interesting committing move across a slab to establish.
andymoin - AltLd O/S - 24/Aug/08 with Warren

adw07 - AltLd O/S - 24/Aug/08 with Andy Main

Difficult traverse that Adrian backed off. Me P1, P2 & P3. Didn't know it was HVS.
hellboundblr - AltLd - 23/Aug/08 with Adrian Goldstraw

Lawrie Brand - AltLd O/S - 04/Aug/08 with Paul Pitcher

paulpitchermp - AltLd - 04/Aug/08

paulpitcher - AltLd O/S - 04/Aug/08 with Lawrie Brand

Hidden - Lead - Aug/08

Didn't realise P3 was the famous sandbag crux until I watched Chris taking a few attempts at doing it. 5a technically. Nice long exposed step over and slightly down with a small handhold for the left hand. He did it cleanly though. His 1st onsite HVS lead. I lead the rest of the climb P1,2 and 4. Each of these pitches was about 4b.
Conan - AltLd O/S - 26/Jul/08 with Chris Michalak

Bowland Polkadot - AltLd - 20/Jul/08 with punky and the butcher

Hidden - AltLd rpt - 04/Jul/08

matt.woodfield - AltLd - 13/Jun/08

Hidden - AltLd O/S - 12/Jun/08

mark4344 - AltLd - 10/Jun/08 with Matt Payne

Pitch 3 traverse very tricky, used a high runner to swing across which was dissapointing.
cheeky - AltLd dog - 10/Jun/08 with Mark Philipson

Hidden - 2nd O/S - 23/May/08

Led 1 & 3, combined 1st 2 guide pitches. Weighted the rope on the awkward step into the groove on 2nd pitch, v disappointing. Excellent route though.
KeithW - AltLd dog - 17/May/08 with Clive Greenwood

Keith Pitch 1 and 2, me pitch 3 and 4.
clive-greenwood - AltLd O/S - 17/May/08 with Keith

Hidden - 2nd - 16/May/08

mikekeswick - AltLd O/S - 10/May/08 with dunny

Did in 3 pitches, led pitch 2. Brilliant climbing.
Martin Davies - AltLd O/S - 03/May/08 with Matt Murg

John Postlethwaite - AltLd O/S - May/08 with liam

Horrible crux pitch (P3), way to hard for me, well done to Derek for leading it, 4c????? Rest of the climb v nice, was a bit cold though.
beckycoles - AltLd - 19/Apr/08

Rob1988 - Lead O/S - Apr/08 with Andrew

jl - Lead - 24/Mar/08 with Penny

pennyb - 2nd O/S - 24/Mar/08 with Jon

daveagriff - 2nd - 2008

Hidden - 2008

nickcj - 2008

bob3141 - AltLd - 21/Oct/07 with James, Rob Head

Jesse Dufton - Lead - 21/Oct/07 with Alistair Everet

Alistair Everett - 2nd - 21/Oct/07 with Jesse Dufton

Karlos - 2nd O/S - 30/Sep/07

Adam1973 - AltLd O/S - 22/Sep/07 with stewart murray

Led P1 & P2 in one. Led P3. With the benefit of being on the 'blunt end' I reckon Pitch 3 can be climbed at 4C. Once you've fixed some good protection higher up in the groove, climb down to the base of the slab. Use a pinch for the left hand, stretch right leg a long way across and DOWN to a good foothold in the groove. Use a small pinch grip for the right hand to pull across ,reaching up with the left hand to a spike in the groove.
stewart murray - AltLd - 22/Sep/07 with Adam Burt

Hidden - AltLd O/S - 09/Sep/07

Led P3, traverse move requires some thought!
Different Steve - AltLd O/S - 05/Sep/07 with Aaron Willis

Hidden - 2nd - Sep/07

Hidden - AltLd O/S - Sep/07

Hidden - 2nd - Sep/07

jimdanson - Lead - 23/Aug/07 with Hannah Flynn

Ann led the first 2 pitches in one. I led the "traverse" pitch which I would say is 5b if I went the correct way. A high runner helped me as I knew I could resort to a "tension traverse" if all else failed. Ann did not have that luxury and pinged off the traverse.
Steve Waters, Mynydd - AltLd O/S - 10/Aug/07 with Ann Sanderson

Made a right mare of the "delicate" step to the right with some quality air time!
PanzerHanzler - AltLd dog - 06/Aug/07 with David Rafe

tomhull - Lead - Aug/07

tomhull - Lead - Aug/07

Hidden - AltLd O/S - 31/Jul/07

Backed off crux, neither of us sure extactly were to traverse. Seemed hard for 4c?
beegsyboy - AltLd dnf - 29/Jul/07 with Sandy

Lead P2+4. Thank god i didn't lead P3 is all i can say. That move across has to be AT LEAST 5b, possibly harder. Only just held on seconding! Unless i missed a trick, but there was nothing else as far as i could see..
Wilbur - AltLd O/S - 29/Jul/07 with Caine

Ed Babs - Lead O/S - 14/Jul/07 with Kate

fell off the crux on pitch 3
viking - AltLd dog - Jul/07 with wilbur

Hidden - AltLd - 28/May/07

Tom M Williams - AltLd - 28/May/07 with Andy Hobson

IanJackson - AltLd O/S - 28/May/07 with Big Ian

Whitt - Lead O/S - 27/May/07 with Mike, Wolfgang

Hidden - AltLd O/S - 20/May/07

Hidden - AltLd O/S - 20/May/07

Simon led the Crux 3rd pitches, no way was the first pitch 4c or the 2nd 4b.
Neil Pacey - AltLd O/S - 01/May/07 with Simon Blythe

richardr - AltLd O/S - May/07

Abi Chard - Lead O/S - May/07 with Ian

Hidden - Lead O/S - 29/Apr/07

Tim Steward - Lead O/S - 06/Apr/07 with Helen Alderson

John Pickles - AltLd O/S - Apr/07 with Zac Poulton

Hidden - AltLd O/S - Apr/07

Xav - AltLd O/S - 19/Mar/07 with Greg Grace

Tony Little - Lead O/S - 11/Feb/07 with Simon

E1 5c??!! You're having a laugh. One interesting move. No sign of holds breaking off.
John Lisle - Lead - 03/Feb/07

John Lisle - 2007

Rob Kennard - 2007

Hidden - 2007

tom.e - Lead O/S - 15/Oct/06

Lead 1st pitch. The second pitch was hard, apparantly the hold has broken off making it a E1 5c...
Katy Nelson - AltLd dog - 26/Sep/06 with Ellie and Sam Uni

Agree with earlier comment, P3 5a. Get footwork right first time and it's all there. Get it wrong ????
mooseloose - AltLd dog - 10/Sep/06 with Maria

Hidden - Lead O/S - 08/Sep/06

Hidden - 2nd O/S - 20/Aug/06

dave o - Lead O/S - 20/Aug/06 with Julia H

The step across the crux feels 5a, especially for the short.
Shaw Brown - AltLd - 07/Aug/06 with cliff brown

Hidden - AltLd O/S - 05/Aug/06

Hidden - Lead O/S - Aug/06

Russell Lovett - Lead O/S - 30/Jul/06 with gede gibons

Hidden - AltLd O/S - 30/Jul/06

Dan 85 - AltLd O/S - 15/Jun/06 with Tim

lead p1
colin milton - AltLd - 12/Jun/06 with shaun l

peterp - AltLd O/S - Jun/06 with Sully

First ever trad route
lewk_c - 2nd O/S - 08/May/06 with Chris Trull

Hidden - AltLd O/S - Apr/06

Hidden - 2006

jim robertson - 2006

simon kimber - Lead O/S - 2006

Hidden - Lead O/S - 2006

Hammy - AltLd - 14/Sep/05 with Joe Gittens

ChrisBrooke - AltLd - 27/Aug/05 with John Inkpen

GPN - AltLd - Aug/05 with Sam Clifford

Hidden - Lead O/S - 31/Jul/05

Hidden - Lead O/S - Jul/05

tom_1985 - 2nd O/S - Feb/05 with Ant Schwirtz

cem - AltLd O/S - 23/Jan/05 with Graham Dolman

ewen - AltLd O/S - 2005 with ian hinkins

Hidden - AltLd - Sep/04

kato'sdad - AltLd - 25/Aug/04 with Giles Trussel

Hidden - AltLd O/S - 24/Jul/04

Nigel Coe - AltLd - 23/Jul/04 with Tim Dunsby

Hidden - AltLd O/S - 13/Jul/04

malc - Lead dog - 01/May/04 with GP

crossdressingrodney - AltLd O/S - 04/Apr/04

steev - 2004

The Bad Cough - Lead O/S - 2004 with Paul Beacall

nige pacer - AltLd O/S - 06/Jul/03

Hidden - AltLd O/S - 30/Mar/03

NickJH - 2003

Shaw Brown - AltLd - 28/Jul/02 with David Jones

Hidden - AltLd rpt - 31/May/02

Led P3, good climbing
Siderunner - AltLd O/S - Apr/02 with Greg Groves, Paul G

Hidden - 2002

Lead pitch 1 2 & 4
adamwesthead - Lead O/S - 18/Oct/01 with Hoult

Hidden - Lead - 21/Jul/01

Hidden - AltLd - 18/Mar/00

Hidden - Mar/00

alpinismo.uk - Lead - 2000

Hidden - AltLd O/S - Mar/99

Hidden - AltLd O/S - 04/Jun/98

five - AltLd rpt - May/97 with CH, TW

We had no runners just a 9mm rope,. Doug picked up some stones and used them as chock stones just like the old days...
Ian Jones - Lead O/S - 1997 with Doug Scott

Hammy - Lead - 24/Jun/96 with Richard Munro

steve prior - AltLd - May/96

EddieA - AltLd O/S - Apr/95 with Simon W

Dave Westby - Lead - 1995 with Rob Lewis

Got lost on Original Route
five - Lead dog - Aug/93 with TW

biggianthead - 20/Jul/93 with HT

Narked4fun - 1993

malc - Lead - 28/Jul/92

Hidden - Lead O/S - Aug/91

cragspud - AltLd - 1990

Andy Say - Lead - 12/Jun/88

Chris the Tall - Lead O/S - Jul/87 with Bernadette

PeteCheung - 1987

Hidden - Lead O/S - 1985

Ghastly Rubberfeet - Lead - 1982

ewar woowar - Lead - 1982

Bob - AltLd - 04/May/81 with D. MacIntosh , P. Dawson

babymoac - 2nd - 14/Feb/81 with Mark

mark-abz - Lead - 23/Jun/80 with Richard O

Hammy - AltLd - 01/Jun/80 with Rob Lawson

Hidden - 1980

Third lead, first VS (as then graded).
Gary Coggon - Lead O/S - 1980 with Pete Leeming

Lone Rider - AltLd - May/77

RichardMc - AltLd - 23/May/76 with Dave Langmead

Hidden - Lead O/S - 19/Oct/75

Hidden - 1975

I was the least experienced of a rope of three. The other two tried the crux traverse for some time but failed. I was persuaded to have a try and suddenly found myself leading the rest of the route which I can still remember finding at (or beyond) my limit. Probably got two bits of gear in.
Rog Wilko - AltLd - Sep/71

'The main pitch is good and steep'.
Gordon Stainforth - AltLd - 09/Jul/71 with Tim James

tapley - 2nd - 18/Apr/69

RichardMc - Lead - 30/Nov/68 with Dave J Roberts

RichardMc - 2nd - 17/Nov/68 with Nigel van Zwannenberg

Dave Musgrove - 09/Jun/68 with Bob Knapton

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Voting
Total votes cast 268
hard E10 of 95
E10 of 95
easy E11 of 95
hard HVS6 of 95
HVS68 of 95
easy HVS15 of 95
hard VS3 of 95
VS2 of 95
easy VS0 of 95
hard 5a0 of 97
5a5 of 97
easy 5a70 of 97
hard 4c12 of 97
4c10 of 97
easy 4c0 of 97
hard 4b0 of 97
4b0 of 97
easy 4b0 of 97
3 Stars7 of 76
2 Stars49 of 76
1 Star19 of 76
0 Stars1 of 76
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Style of ascent

Soloed2 of 422 (0.5%)
Lead107 of 422 (25.4%)
Followed49 of 422 (11.6%)
Alt Leads231 of 422 (54.7%)
Unknown33 of 422 (7.8%)

'Climbed'187 of 422 (44.3%)
clean O/S197 of 422 (46.7%)
clean β5 of 422 (1.2%)
clean rpt14 of 422 (3.3%)
dogged15 of 422 (3.6%)
dnf4 of 422 (0.9%)