Surform** E1 5b
[lou on rather steep ground! Surform HVS 5b ***, 2 kb]14m.

Rockfax Description
Layback up the leaning flake quickly until a tricky traverse leads left to gain a small ledge. Bridge the corner then escape out left onto slabby rock, climbed rightwards to the summit. © ROCKFAX

FA. Joe Brown 1958

Ticklists: Burbage, Millstone and Beyond Routes Graded List, Peak Gritstone S-HVS **+.

Photo: lou on rather steep ground! Surform HVS 5b *** © slim
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This climb is in 178 logbooks, and on 21 wishlists.

Hidden - 2nd dog - 11/Jun/15

Bernie L - Lead O/S - 11/Jun/15 with Calum Harvey

NDD - Solo - 03/Jun/15

bullwinkle - 2nd O/S - 25/Apr/15 with Alan

Rasp attempt #1 ends in ignominious failure.
Tubs - Lead dog - 25/Apr/15 with Alan D

Luke Dawson - Lead O/S - 22/Apr/15 with Alberte1996

Alberte1996 - 2nd rpt - 22/Apr/15 with Luke Dawson

Hidden - 15/Mar/15

g1m147 - 2nd - 06/Dec/14 with Mick.

soph - 2nd rpt - 18/Nov/14 with Karel Snoek

Sam Simpson - Lead O/S - 06/Nov/14 with Ally Hurst

Hidden - 2nd dog - 06/Nov/14

Retrieving gear after a disastrous attempt on the Rasp. This didnt go swimmingly either... lovely move round the bulge once I got it though.
Alex the Alex - Lead dog - 01/Nov/14

Feeling pretty rough but this route totally spanked me and is much closer to E1 than HVS purely for the polished start and sustained moves!
jon_gill1 - Lead dog - 20/Oct/14 with big Si

Hidden - Lead O/S - 05/Oct/14

Hidden - 2nd O/S - 11/Sep/14

Matt Cooke - Lead rpt - 27/Aug/14 with Jack Hodgson

Not led before - good climbing. Seems 2 ways of moving onto ledge on left - a high (stepping onto it) or lower (pulling onto it), I went high. Val didnt second
steveb2006 - Lead - 07/Jul/14 with Valerie Partington

Tried years ago.
Rachel Slater - Lead RP - 15/Jun/14 with James Oswald

Hidden - Lead dog - 06/Jun/14

Done again.
James Oswald - 2nd O/S - Jun/14 with Rachel Slater

MrBIond - 2nd - 19/May/14

2nd go
mrteale - Lead rpt - 19/May/14 with MrBlond

Hidden - Lead - 18/May/14

Hidden - Lead O/S - 05/May/14

dominic lee - Solo - 23/Nov/13 with dave turnbull

Simon Allcock - 2nd - 31/Oct/13 with Wilki

amccann - Lead dog - 17/Oct/13

mjeffery - Lead O/S - 13/Sep/13

petekeron - Lead O/S - 04/Sep/13 with Barry Scott

David Kay - Lead O/S - 02/Sep/13 with Steph

TDSvejstrup - 2nd O/S - 19/Jul/13 with jamie roberts

zcsharp - Lead dog - 19/Jul/13 with Danish

theloringharvey - Lead O/S - 29/Jun/13 with Katherine Durtnell

I'll admit publically that it was meant to be the other one, but I liked this alot. A good one to place gear on and within me by a long way. Maybe, just maybe the other would have gone on the day. Torn skin and slipping limbs made it memorable though too short.
howifeel - Lead O/S - 09/Jun/13 with Lee

Hidden - 21/Apr/13

dr_botnik - 2nd dog - 07/Apr/13 with deacon

Not a proper onsight as I had lead the Rasp 10 minutes before hand. Got a vague feeling I've seconded it previously too but not sure.
deacondeacon - Lead - 07/Apr/13

WillDoyle - Lead β - 04/Apr/13 with Haydn Jones

Haydn Jones - 2nd O/S - 04/Apr/13 with will doyle

jameslam - 2nd O/S - 03/Apr/13 with Matt A

So rob could second it
BRoe - Lead O/S - 04/Nov/12 with Rob L

Fell off at 4 metres in my first (onsight) attempt, as a warm-up on the day, after everything went very wrong and I got pumped, before topping out. Terribly disappointed. Lead cleanly in my second attempt.
masa-alpin - Lead RP - 21/Oct/12 with James O, John Reedy

Awesome still. Seconded it twice after Masa fell off the first time. E1
James Oswald - 2nd rpt - 21/Oct/12 with Masa

keith leonard - 11/Sep/12

Climbed the first half from the Rasp before, but the crux was onsight. Pretty scary at one point setting up the big reach left.
Daniel Heath - Solo O/S - 01/Sep/12

jwpil - Lead O/S - 26/Aug/12 with Deacon

dannyboy83 - Lead O/S - 23/Aug/12

Hidden - 18/Aug/12

Ridiculously steep moves. Bit off more than I could chew and shamefully rested on a nut at the top of the flakes before finsihing. Desperate for HVS. One to come back to for the clean lead.
Jimbo C - Lead dog - 07/Jul/12 with Pete

timmyhobby - Lead O/S - 03/Jul/12

Rested trying to get stuck gear - size 7 WC rock still in route - sorry. Intimidating top out.
helenstuart - 2nd dog - 10/Jun/12 with Mike

Went too low at the traverse and fell! Got it sorted when I went high. Great climb.
climbinmunkey - Lead dog - 10/Jun/12 with Helen

DaveFidler - Lead O/S - 05/Jun/12 with Paul

Hidden - Lead O/S - 31/Mar/12

Andy Moles - Lead O/S - 11/Mar/12 with Malc

Pete Graham - 2nd - 29/Feb/12 with Malcolm Scott

Sean Kelly - 2012

Tony Kartawick - 2012

Boy - Solo - 01/Nov/11

Brilliant route. Ace laybacking up the very steep flake. predicted runners from the ground and used the stuck nut. Nice traversing move leftwards to what one hopes will be a hands off rest... it isn't. Weird topout which felt like solid 5a....
James Oswald - Lead O/S - 25/Oct/11 with Kyle Wood

Absolutely destroyed my arms hanging around removing some stuck gear so only got as far as trying the traverse out left. Seriously pumpy route and top-end E1.
Mr. K - 2nd dnf - 23/Oct/11 with James Oswald

nelson smashed ron dogged
ronmcdonald - TR - 20/Oct/11

Good climbing, personally I thought it was worth E1
Graeme Hammond - Lead O/S - 22/Sep/11 with Richard Williams

andybirtwistle - Lead - 24/Jul/11 with Mark Elwell

One rest.
Tony Holdsworth - Lead dog - 21/Jul/11 with Ian Holtby

Hidden - Lead rpt - 14/Jul/11

BeccaSnowden - 2nd O/S - 03/Jul/11 with Tom

In Mar/09 took a rest where this splits off to the Rasp. Knackering. Clearly need more training - guess it worked.
thomasadixon - Lead RP - 03/Jul/11 with Becca

tomjagger - Lead O/S - Jul/11 with Matt Cooke

Nick Sillem - Solo O/S - 2011

Chris_barr - Lead O/S - 13/Nov/10 with Chris Lockyer

Knee bar rest very helpful. Used it twice.
hellboundblr - Lead - 13/Nov/10 with Billy

Got pumped out trying the lead :( I will return...
madasten - 2nd dog - 13/Nov/10

al123 - 2nd O/S - 07/Nov/10

Alistair Corbett - Lead O/S - 07/Nov/10 with sam corbett

sam corbett - Lead O/S - 07/Nov/10 with Alistair Corbett

one rest, should have kept going
Rachel Slater - Lead dog - 13/Oct/10 with Alex Shermer

Olli-C - 2nd O/S - 13/Oct/10 with Rachel Slater

Alex Shermer - 2nd dnf - 13/Oct/10 with Rachel Slater

joese7en - Lead O/S - 30/Sep/10

chrisbussell - 2nd - 14/Sep/10 with Tim O'Neill

I thought this felt E1 for sure, maybe im just weak though. Not the best route to choose for a warm up on a muggy evening.
Jonathan Hall - Lead - 21/Jul/10 with Jane Rigby

JRigby - 2nd - 21/Jul/10

Hidden - Solo O/S - 15/May/10

Harder than it looks!
liamoloughlin - Lead O/S - 15/May/10

Hidden - 2nd - 15/May/10

Hidden - 2nd O/S - 12/May/10

tomthecoolperson - Lead O/S - 12/May/10 with Andrew

Chris M - Lead - 02/May/10 with Tommy B

Hidden - 2nd O/S - 01/May/10

highrepute - 2nd O/S - 28/Apr/10

Joe Costello - Lead O/S - 28/Apr/10

Hidden - Lead O/S - 08/Apr/10

Wimped out of The Rasp onto this easier exit.
nickmattia - Lead O/S - 2010 with stephenhartley

Got tired on rasp so down climbed & did this
Bristoldave - Lead O/S - 05/Dec/09 with Helen

galpinos - 2nd - 19/Sep/09 with Ben T

tmawer - Lead O/S - 10/Sep/09 with tina

Hidden - Lead dog - 17/Aug/09

Hidden - Lead O/S - 08/Aug/09

Hidden - Lead O/S - 08/Aug/09

Hidden - Lead dog - 02/Aug/09

rubygem - 2nd - 02/Aug/09 with toby schofield

Mr Wild - Lead O/S - 30/Jul/09

IAmAStone - Lead dog - 30/Jul/09 with Charlie Jefferson

Hidden - 2nd - 03/Jul/09

Ed Booth - Lead O/S - 02/Jul/09

Sankey - 2nd - 15/Jun/09 with Luke

Hidden - 2nd - 09/Jun/09

Had to take rests at crux - too pumped
cem - Lead dog - 07/Jun/09 with Graham Dolman

Good practice for the rasp, but decent in its own right
Alex Mason - Lead O/S - 25/Sep/08 with Andrew Barker

Also seconded a couple of years ago
Andrew Barker - 2nd O/S - Sep/08 with Cragdog Al

Tim Steward - Lead O/S - 27/Aug/08 with Steve Cayzer

Stig - Lead O/S - 07/Aug/08 with Charlie Reade-Jahn

dan gibson - Lead rpt - 06/Jun/08

Hidden - Solo β - 28/Apr/08

mattyork2 - 2nd - 21/Apr/08 with Alan Royle

alaan - Lead O/S - 21/Apr/08 with Matt

Hidden - Lead - 16/Feb/08

jamesturnbull - Lead - 2008

gregoritos - Lead O/S - Jul/07

Hidden - Lead O/S - 17/Jun/07

Hidden - Lead rpt - 26/May/07

SecretSquirrel - 2nd - 26/May/07 with Nick Smith

timo.t - Lead O/S - 24/May/07 with Rob, Mark

Hidden - 18/Apr/07

Hidden - Lead - 18/Apr/07

Nicos - Lead O/S - 13/Feb/07 with christos liaskos

Rob Kennard - 2007

Hidden - Lead - 2007

tumbling wizard - Lead O/S - 17/Sep/06

Hidden - Lead O/S - 13/Jul/06

dan gibson - 2006

UndercoverElephant - Lead O/S - 2006

Hidden - Lead β - Nov/05

shark - Solo rpt - 20/Aug/05

Pythonist - Lead O/S - 15/May/05 with Paul Mealor

Hidden - 2005

Derek Ryden - 2005 with Pierre

Hidden - Lead O/S - 01/Sep/04

SteveM - Lead - 07/Jul/04 with Cogie

Hidden - 2nd O/S - Oct/03

shoulders - Lead - 05/Apr/03 with alexis

AJ007 - 2nd - 12/Sep/02 with Dan

Hidden - Lead dog - 08/Sep/02

Hidden - Lead - Aug/01

Hidden - 2nd - 07/Jul/00

Hidden - Lead dog - 07/Jul/00

Roget - Solo rpt - 23/Apr/00

tlr - Lead - 2000

marcoleptic - Lead O/S - 2000

Hidden - Lead - 26/Sep/99

Hidden - 2nd - 12/Aug/99

Hidden - Lead rpt - 28/Jun/98

CrashMat Rob - Lead dog - 17/May/98 with Nicky

Chris Reid - Lead O/S - 28/Mar/98

Hidden - Lead O/S - 18/Oct/97

Rob leads with a struggle and rests
steveb2006 - 2nd - 29/Jul/97 with Rob Gambles

was going to do the Rasp but not going well enough so switched to this.
uphillnow - Lead - 23/Sep/96 with mat allatt, Rik

Roget - Lead O/S - 15/Jul/95

Hidden - 2nd - 17/Jun/95

cragspud - 2nd O/S - 1993

Tony Little - Lead O/S - 13/Jun/92 with Guy and Simon

Marti999 - Lead - 1990

Andy Say - Lead - 01/Oct/89

phardman - Lead O/S - 08/May/88

goi.ashmore - Lead RP - 02/Mar/88 with Dave Forster

Dave Musgrove - 2nd - 14/Jun/87 with Pete Finklaire

Hidden - Lead - 11/May/85

charlesmfrench - Lead RP - 1985

nigehughes - Lead - Aug/84 with Andy Muir

DPaul - Solo O/S - 02/Jun/83

Andy Fielding - 2nd - 1980

Dave Musgrove - Nov/79

Jonathan Lagoe - UKC - Aug/76 with Al Baker

Jonathan Lagoe - UKC - Aug/76 with Al Baker

rogerskews - Apr/72 with Keith Jenkins

mikej - Lead - 21/Jun/68 with Geoff Williams

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