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Whither Whether*** VS 4b

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[Jake T on crux of Whither Wether, 2 kb]40m. No description has been contributed for this climb.

Ticklists: The 100 Best UK VS routes?, Ultimate Scottish Rock.

Photo: Jake T on crux of Whither Wether © andrew bain
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This climb is in 125 logbooks, and on 41 wishlists.

Hidden - 2nd - 24/Aug/14

Hidden - Lead - 24/Aug/14

Hidden - Lead - 24/Aug/14

pamvdb17 - 2nd - 23/Aug/14 with Lucy S

Andy Moles - Solo O/S - 15/Aug/14 with -

Hidden - 2nd - 11/Jul/14

The Ghost Rider - 2nd - 11/Jul/14

Very easy climbing and no particularly interesting moves, but the situation, exposure and minimal gear opportunities make this a fantastic pitch.
calumhicks - Lead O/S - 11/Jul/14 with Adam Harris

Hidden - Lead O/S - 28/Jun/14

robertmichaeladams - AltLd - 22/Jun/14 with Tim

Tim Rodgers - AltLd - 22/Jun/14 with Rob Adams

Combined with Whether Wall and the first two pitches of Recess Route on a cracking day. Exposure was fantastic but the climbing was easy on the dry rock. Gear definitely was minimal!
Hugh Simons - 2nd O/S - 18/Jun/14 with Euan Todd

Euan Todd - Lead O/S - 18/Jun/14 with Hugh Simons

Busby - Lead - 31/May/14

Hidden - Lead - 31/May/14

Excellent climb, Andy strolled up it although I did hear some groaning at the crux! Then I go there and seen why! Bit blank for the feet for a bit! Couple moves and you up but a bold lead at that part. Situation is fantastic and climbing in constant for the full pitch, just a same its only 1!!! Glad to have it ticked off the list though.
010paw - 2nd O/S - 31/May/14 with Andy Watt

IanGilbertJones - 2014

Hidden - Lead O/S - 14/Sep/13

Liam Ingram - Lead O/S - 14/Sep/13 with Ed Venables, Fergus Cuthill

gurumed - Lead O/S - 20/Jul/13 with Mitch, Colin

colinerees - 2nd O/S - 20/Jul/13 with Mitch, Gordon M

Scott Rankin - AltLd - 12/Jul/13

Found turning the arÍte the hardest part, perhaps due to a horde of midges that hung there showing no respect for the exposure. Beautiful summer evening with no-one else on the hill.
alan moore - Solo - 11/Jul/13

sprout3099 - 11/Jun/13 with Becky Wood

Somehow, I quite unexpectedly managed to run out of quickdraws on this (took 10) and had to improvise on the last two runners
johannes - Lead O/S - 25/May/13

Hidden - 2nd - 18/Feb/13

captain - 2013

Hidden - 2013

John 'B' Hutchinson - Lead rpt - 02/Jun/12 with Steven Alexander

Kirill - 2nd O/S - 02/Jun/12 with Charles Moreton

Felt as hard as I wanted to do in the Baltic conditions: not much sensation in the fingers
cem - Lead O/S - 02/Jun/12 with Kirill Spiridonov

Ant Man Bee - Lead O/S - 02/Jun/12 with Graham Dolman

g0rd0n davids0n - AltLd O/S - Jun/12 with roy davidson

Linked with Whether Wall
Tim Hamlet - AltLd - 27/May/12 with Laura Hamlet

niallk - Lead O/S - 26/May/12 with Sarah

karinh - Lead O/S - 05/May/12 with Luca

Lawrie Brand - 2nd rpt - 27/Mar/12 with Pete Nellist

Hidden - AltLd O/S - 27/Mar/12

very nice pitch! not too scary either - gear very good when it's there. beautiful day
tomdude - Lead O/S - 25/Mar/12 with marie

marie_p - 2nd - 25/Mar/12 with Tom

tim newton - Solo O/S - 24/Mar/12

Hidden - 2012

Hidden - 2012

Amazing :)
sebrider - Lead O/S - 18/Sep/11 with Sophie C B

Linked with Whether Wall. What a juicy mountain VS! Decided to pass on the boldness and was very happy seconding this lush route; awesome climbing in a beautiful setting :)
sophiecb - 2nd - 18/Sep/11 with Seb

Elsier - 2nd O/S - 23/Jul/11 with Ian

timcussins - Lead O/S - 23/Jul/11 with Jared

SonicJ - 2nd O/S - 23/Jul/11 with timcussins

Hidden - Lead - 30/Apr/11

stewnew - AltLd O/S - Apr/11 with brendan

Scottish78 - 2011

Hidden - 2011

Hidden - 2011

danJBA - Lead O/S - 11/Oct/10 with James Hoar

pocketsarah - 2nd O/S - 04/Sep/10 with Glenn

glenngordon - Lead O/S - 04/Sep/10 with sarah louise kelly

Hidden - 2nd - 31/Aug/10

jonnie3430 - 2nd - 30/Aug/10 with Bjorn

Hidden - Lead O/S - 30/Aug/10

Hidden - 2nd O/S - 30/Aug/10

Hidden - Lead - 30/Aug/10

MonkeyDawson - AltLd - 13/Jul/10 with Simon Smith

MonkeyDawson - AltLd - Jul/10 with Simon Smith

Linked with Whether Wall which I highly recommend doing. Great climbing in a fantastic situation with some long run-outs. Amazing!
John 'B' Hutchinson - Lead O/S - 17/Jun/10 with Donald Somerville

steev - Lead O/S - 05/Jun/10 with Andy B, Manjoe

Easier than I expected... just one awkward move (which I may have made hard for myself) half-way up. Would be spectacular on lead, though... it's all about boldness.
andybuckley - 2nd - 05/Jun/10 with Steve Crawford

Hidden - 2010

Derek Graham - 2nd - 12/Sep/09

Robert Watts - Lead O/S - 12/Sep/09 with Del, Graeme R

Hidden - 2nd - Sep/09

Hidden - Lead O/S - Sep/09

Captain Solo - Lead rpt - 11/Jul/09 with Ewan

Hidden - Lead O/S - 23/Jun/09

Neil Adams - 2nd rpt - 23/Jun/09 with Dougal

David Sherratt - Lead O/S - Jun/09

nice climbing. nice situations
Ally Gillies - 2nd - 29/May/09 with Malc

Hidden - Lead β - May/09

westaway - Lead O/S - 18/Apr/09

Stewart B - 2nd O/S - 01/Apr/09 with Ben Litster

Hidden - 2nd - Mar/09

Hidden - 2009

goingupintheworld - 2nd - 26/Sep/08 with Jonnie

JLS - 2nd rpt - 14/Jun/08 with dpmUK

dpmUK - Lead O/S - 14/Jun/08 with JLS

Really nice climb.
Fultonius - 2nd - 08/Jun/08 with Neil Adams

Lovely!
Neil Adams - Lead - 08/Jun/08 with Ally F

JLS - Lead O/S - 18/May/08 with Jacqui

jfmchivall - 2nd O/S - 2008 with Calum Hendry

Hidden - Lead rpt - 21/Aug/07

what a route. exposure and awesome views.
jazzyjackson - Lead - 09/Aug/07 with Jimbob

Fantastic position, just dont fall off!
Lawrie Brand - Lead O/S - 09/Aug/07 with Alistair Robertson

Watty - 2nd O/S - 24/Jul/07 with A.Watt

Alexander123 - Lead O/S - 24/Jul/07 with Nicholas Watt

Hidden - 2nd O/S - 14/Apr/07

Hidden - AltLd O/S - 07/Apr/07

ecowaller - 2007 with Paula

timmy-ts - 2007

whispering nic - AltLd O/S - 14/Aug/06 with Swiss Tony

Dirk Wallis - Lead - 12/Aug/06 with Grrr

Hidden - 2nd O/S - 30/Jul/06

andyinglis - Lead O/S - 15/Jul/06 with Jen McKenzie

Hidden - 2005

Captain Solo - 2nd - 31/Aug/03 with Colin

Hidden - Lead O/S - Aug/03

thebat - 2nd O/S - 2003 with Alex the medic

Andy S - Lead O/S - 13/Sep/02 with Paul & Sheila

Hidden - 2nd - 2002

Jamie B - Lead - Sep/01 with Kris Quayle

Hidden - Lead - 12/May/01

graeme gatherer - 2000

Lone Rider - 2000

Hidden - Lead rpt - 1999

Awesome climb, one of the best I've done. Long and unprotected. Really great positions, great climbing.
andrew300169 - AltLd O/S - Aug/98 with Judy

madagascar - AltLd - Aug/98 with andrew300169

Yourlead - 2nd - 18/Apr/97 with Graham Penny

Hidden - 2nd O/S - 1996

Dave Kerr - AltLd - 30/May/94 with A. Dunlop

CMacD - 1994

Great exposed route
brianrunner - AltLd - 1992 with gordon innes

Andy Say - Solo - 28/Aug/89

cam1401 - 2nd - May/86 with Dave

BRUCESTRAC - 1986 with Simon Stewart

Hidden - 1986

Nigel Bond - Lead - 26/May/79 with Martin Crosby

neil3965 - Lead - 1978

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Voting
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VS21 of 32
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4b26 of 32
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Style of ascent

Soloed4 of 125 (3.2%)
Lead49 of 125 (39.2%)
Followed38 of 125 (30.4%)
Alt Leads15 of 125 (12.0%)
Unknown19 of 125 (15.2%)

'Climbed'63 of 125 (50.4%)
clean O/S54 of 125 (43.2%)
clean β1 of 125 (0.8%)
clean rpt7 of 125 (5.6%)