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Ticklists: The 100 Best UK VS routes?.

Hidden 17/Oct Lead dnf
Hidden 17/Oct 2nd dog
PLM 17/Oct Lead O/S

Bloody good actually. 2 falls from young Ed, climbed it fine if a little like a fanny. Quite runout at points

with Ed
J_Trottet 02/Oct AltLd O/S
with Peter
Hidden 01/Sep 2nd O/S
Hidden 16/Aug Lead O/S
PPP 16/Aug 2nd O/S
olekemi 18/Jul AltLd rpt
with Jon W
mishabruml 15/Jul 2nd O/S

Looks awesome from the bottom! Bold start, fairly easy with some cool moves higher up round the flakes.

with Andrew Bonham, MarcusP
Fiona Reid 03/Jul 2nd

Bottom section very damp and all a bit scary. Good climbing on almost enough gear.

with Mike
Mike-W-99 03/Jul Lead O/S

Wet start and no gear but improves.

with Fiona
abbeywall 23/Jun Lead O/S

A great pitch. Well protected after the initial bold start which is on good ledges. A micro cam smaller than mine would provide some protection

with K
tallpaulselfridge 09/Jun 2nd
John Dale 09/Jun Lead

Great route, well protected if you look carefully

Dougbart 14/May Lead
with john, liam
JosefGoeth 09/May Lead
bduffin 09/May 2nd
Liam Watson ?/May Lead
euanryan 22/Apr 2nd O/S
with Matt
matthew885 ??/2015 Lead
alice_loudon 05/Nov/14 Lead O/S
with Sergio
Hidden 24/Aug/14 Lead
Hidden 24/Aug/14 2nd
Hidden 24/Aug/14 2nd
Euan Todd 11/Jul/14 Lead rpt
with Richard
Hidden 11/Jul/14 Lead
JackM92 11/Jul/14 Lead O/S

Lack of gear early on, but easy climbing over the ledges.

calumhicks 11/Jul/14 2nd O/S
with Adam Harris
Andy Moles 19/Jun/14 Solo O/S

Really good. Wussed out of carrying on up WW for some reason.

with -
Euan Todd 18/Jun/14 2nd O/S
Hugh Simons 18/Jun/14 Lead O/S

Combined with Whither Whether and the first two pitches of Recess Route on a cracking day. Some great protection amongst great foot and hand holds, a very enjoyable climb indeed!

Hidden 31/May/14 2nd
Busby 31/May/14 Lead
010paw 31/May/14 Lead O/S

Cracking route!! Very very enjoyable! Start was seriously bold! 1 crappy friend that I wouldn't like to have fallen on until I got to the downward facing crack for a bomber friend and also took the in-situ friend just to be sure! Gear afterwards was good and climbing was sustained at the grade all the way I thought, give or take a ledge or two for a breather...... Plus the weather was exceptions so happy days.

Liam Ingram 14/Sep/13 2nd O/S
olekemi 14/Sep/13 Lead O/S
with Simon T, Andy B
andybroadway 14/Sep/13 2nd
gurumed 20/Jul/13 Lead O/S
with Mitch, Colin
colinerees 20/Jul/13 2nd O/S
with Mitch, Gordon M
Scott Rankin 12/Jul/13 AltLd
johannes 25/May/13 Lead O/S

tbh I enjoyed this more than Whither Whether, it's more of a logical line.

Hidden 18/Feb/13 Lead O/S
captain ??/2013 -
Hidden ??/2013 -
John 'B' Hutchinson 02/Jun/12 Lead rpt
Kirill 02/Jun/12 Lead O/S
cem 02/Jun/12 2nd


Hidden 02/Jun/12 2nd
Laura Hamlet 27/May/12 AltLd O/S
Tim Hamlet 27/May/12 AltLd
niallk 26/May/12 Lead O/S
with Sarah
karinh 05/May/12 2nd O/S
with Luca
Lawrie Brand 27/Mar/12 Lead rpt
Hidden 27/Mar/12 AltLd O/S
tim newton 24/Mar/12 Solo O/S
Hidden ??/2012 -
Jonescrusher ??/2012 AltLd O/S
sebrider 18/Sep/11 Lead O/S

Don't follow the gear and holds towards the arete, the route goes up the middle up a series of small ledges; run out but good holds.

sophiecb 18/Sep/11 2nd
with Seb
Elsier 23/Jul/11 Lead O/S
with Ian
timcussins 23/Jul/11 Lead O/S
with Jared
SonicJ 23/Jul/11 2nd O/S
Hidden 30/Apr/11 2nd
Brendan ?/Apr/11 Lead O/S

Followed by Whither Whether, great climb.

with Stewart
Hidden ??/2011 -
pocketsarah 04/Sep/10 Lead O/S
with Glenn
glenngordon 04/Sep/10 2nd O/S
with sarah louise kelly
Hidden 31/Aug/10 Lead
jonnie3430 30/Aug/10 2nd
with Bjorn
Hidden 30/Aug/10 Lead O/S
Hidden 30/Aug/10 Lead O/S
Hidden 30/Aug/10 2nd
John 'B' Hutchinson 17/Jun/10 Lead O/S

If Punster's Crack and Whither Whether warrant 4 stars then surely so does this pitch. Excellent flowing climbing in a great situtation and more gear than Whither Whether!

with Donald Somerville
steev 05/Jun/10 2nd O/S
with Andy B, Manjoe
andybuckley 05/Jun/10 2nd

Joe went up the crack to start, I took the more direct line since the holds were more visible from above. Strenuous in places, testing my recovering finger ligament!

with Steve Crawford
Hidden ??/2010 -
Derek Graham 12/Sep/09 2nd
Robert Watts 12/Sep/09 Lead O/S
with Del, Graeme R
Hidden ?/Sep/09 Lead β
Hidden ?/Sep/09 2nd O/S
Captain Solo 11/Jul/09 2nd rpt
with Ewan
iceicebaby 08/Jul/09 2nd O/S

Thought this was worth more than 2 stars! Brilliant climb, bold to start. We got rained off the Whither Whether pitch above so have an excuse to do it all again next time.

Neil Adams 23/Jun/09 Lead O/S
with Dougal
David Sherratt ?/Jun/09 Lead O/S
Ally Gillies 29/May/09 2nd

lovely route. glorious weather

with Malc
Hidden ?/May/09 2nd
westaway 18/Apr/09 Lead O/S
Hidden ?/Mar/09 2nd
goingupintheworld 26/Sep/08 2nd
with Jonnie
JLS 14/Jun/08 Lead O/S
with dpmUK
Hidden 14/Jun/08 2nd O/S
jfmchivall ??/2008 Lead O/S
Hidden 21/Aug/07 2nd rpt
jazzyjackson 09/Aug/07 2nd
with Jimbob
Lawrie Brand 09/Aug/07 Lead O/S
Watty 24/Jul/07 Lead O/S
with A.Watt
Alexander123 24/Jul/07 2nd
Hidden 14/Apr/07 Lead O/S
Hidden 07/Apr/07 AltLd O/S
ecowaller ??/2007 -
with Paula
timmy-ts ??/2007 -
whispering nic 14/Aug/06 AltLd O/S
with Mad Fish
Hidden 30/Jul/06 Lead O/S
andyinglis 15/Jul/06 Lead O/S
with Jen McKenzie
Hidden ??/2005 -
Captain Solo 31/Aug/03 Lead
with Colin
thebat ??/2003 2nd O/S
with Alex the medic
konacol 17/Sep/02 2nd
Andy S 13/Sep/02 Lead O/S
with Paul & Sheila
Hidden ??/2002 Lead O/S
Jamie B ?/Sep/01 2nd

Kris's 1st VS lead.

with Kris Quayle
Hidden 12/May/01 2nd
brianrunner ??/2000 -
graeme gatherer ??/2000 -
Hidden ??/1999 Lead
Yourlead 18/Apr/97 2nd
with Graham Penny
CMacD ??/1994 -
Dave Kerr ?/Aug/93 AltLd
with Iain Martin
Andy Say 28/Aug/89 Solo
BRUCESTRAC ??/1986 -
with Simon Stewart
mark mcgowan01 ??/1984 -
johnkeith ??/1980 Lead

good steep balance climbing. Quite well protected after first 15 feet.

with can't remember!
Lone Rider 21/May/77 -
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