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Whether Wall** VS 4c

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This climb is in 100 logbooks, and on 19 wishlists.

Hidden - Lead - 24/Aug/14

Hidden - 2nd - 24/Aug/14

Hidden - 2nd - 24/Aug/14

Euan Todd - Lead rpt - 11/Jul/14 with Richard

Hidden - Lead - 11/Jul/14

Lack of gear early on, but easy climbing over the ledges.
The Ghost Rider - Lead O/S - 11/Jul/14

calumhicks - 2nd O/S - 11/Jul/14 with Adam Harris

Really good. Wussed out of carrying on up WW for some reason.
Andy Moles - Solo O/S - 19/Jun/14 with -

Euan Todd - 2nd O/S - 18/Jun/14 with Hugh Simons

Combined with Whither Whether and the first two pitches of Recess Route on a cracking day. Some great protection amongst great foot and hand holds, a very enjoyable climb indeed!
Hugh Simons - Lead O/S - 18/Jun/14 with Euan Todd

Hidden - 2nd - 31/May/14

Busby - Lead - 31/May/14

Cracking route!! Very very enjoyable! Start was seriously bold! 1 crappy friend that I wouldn't like to have fallen on until I got to the downward facing crack for a bomber friend and also took the in-situ friend just to be sure! Gear afterwards was good and climbing was sustained at the grade all the way I thought, give or take a ledge or two for a breather...... Plus the weather was exceptions so happy days.
010paw - Lead O/S - 31/May/14 with Andy Watt

Liam Ingram - 2nd O/S - 14/Sep/13 with Ed Venables, Fergus Cuthill

olekemi - Lead O/S - 14/Sep/13 with Simon T, Andy B

andybroadway - 2nd - 14/Sep/13 with Ole Kemi, Simon Taylor

gurumed - Lead O/S - 20/Jul/13 with Mitch, Colin

colinerees - 2nd O/S - 20/Jul/13 with Mitch, Gordon M

Scott Rankin - AltLd - 12/Jul/13

tbh I enjoyed this more than Whither Whether, it's more of a logical line.
johannes - Lead O/S - 25/May/13

Hidden - Lead O/S - 18/Feb/13

captain - 2013

Hidden - 2013

John 'B' Hutchinson - Lead rpt - 02/Jun/12 with Steven Alexander

Kirill - Lead O/S - 02/Jun/12 with Charles Moreton

Cold!
cem - 2nd - 02/Jun/12 with Kirill Spiridonov

Ant Man Bee - 2nd - 02/Jun/12 with Graham Dolman

Laura Hamlet - AltLd O/S - 27/May/12 with Tim Hamlet

Tim Hamlet - AltLd - 27/May/12 with Laura Hamlet

niallk - Lead O/S - 26/May/12 with Sarah

karinh - 2nd O/S - 05/May/12 with Luca

Lawrie Brand - Lead rpt - 27/Mar/12 with Pete Nellist

Hidden - AltLd O/S - 27/Mar/12

tim newton - Solo O/S - 24/Mar/12

Hidden - 2012

Jonescrusher - AltLd O/S - 2012 with Martin Collins

Don't follow the gear and holds towards the arete, the route goes up the middle up a series of small ledges; run out but good holds.
sebrider - Lead O/S - 18/Sep/11 with Sophie C B

sophiecb - 2nd - 18/Sep/11 with Seb

Elsier - Lead O/S - 23/Jul/11 with Ian

timcussins - Lead O/S - 23/Jul/11 with Jared

SonicJ - 2nd O/S - 23/Jul/11 with timcussins

Hidden - 2nd - 30/Apr/11

Followed by Whither Whether, great climb.
Brendan - Lead O/S - Apr/11 with Stewart

Hidden - 2011

pocketsarah - Lead O/S - 04/Sep/10 with Glenn

glenngordon - 2nd O/S - 04/Sep/10 with sarah louise kelly

Hidden - Lead - 31/Aug/10

jonnie3430 - 2nd - 30/Aug/10 with Bjorn

Hidden - Lead O/S - 30/Aug/10

Hidden - Lead O/S - 30/Aug/10

Hidden - 2nd - 30/Aug/10

If Punster's Crack and Whither Whether warrant 4 stars then surely so does this pitch. Excellent flowing climbing in a great situtation and more gear than Whither Whether!
John 'B' Hutchinson - Lead O/S - 17/Jun/10 with Donald Somerville

steev - 2nd O/S - 05/Jun/10 with Andy B, Manjoe

Joe went up the crack to start, I took the more direct line since the holds were more visible from above. Strenuous in places, testing my recovering finger ligament!
andybuckley - 2nd - 05/Jun/10 with Steve Crawford

Hidden - 2010

Derek Graham - 2nd - 12/Sep/09

Robert Watts - Lead O/S - 12/Sep/09 with Del, Graeme R

Hidden - Lead β - Sep/09

Hidden - 2nd O/S - Sep/09

Captain Solo - 2nd rpt - 11/Jul/09 with Ewan

Thought this was worth more than 2 stars! Brilliant climb, bold to start. We got rained off the Whither Whether pitch above so have an excuse to do it all again next time.
iceicebaby - 2nd O/S - 08/Jul/09 with Sam Wood

Neil Adams - Lead O/S - 23/Jun/09 with Dougal

David Sherratt - Lead O/S - Jun/09

lovely route. glorious weather
Ally Gillies - 2nd - 29/May/09 with Malc

Hidden - 2nd - May/09

westaway - Lead O/S - 18/Apr/09

Hidden - 2nd - Mar/09

goingupintheworld - 2nd - 26/Sep/08 with Jonnie

JLS - Lead O/S - 14/Jun/08 with dpmUK

dpmUK - 2nd O/S - 14/Jun/08 with JLS

jfmchivall - Lead O/S - 2008 with Calum Hendry

Hidden - 2nd rpt - 21/Aug/07

jazzyjackson - 2nd - 09/Aug/07 with Jimbob

Lawrie Brand - Lead O/S - 09/Aug/07 with Alistair Robertson

Watty - Lead O/S - 24/Jul/07 with A.Watt

Alexander123 - 2nd - 24/Jul/07 with Nicholas Watt

Hidden - Lead O/S - 14/Apr/07

Hidden - AltLd O/S - 07/Apr/07

ecowaller - 2007 with Paula

timmy-ts - 2007

whispering nic - AltLd O/S - 14/Aug/06 with Mad Fish

Hidden - Lead O/S - 30/Jul/06

andyinglis - Lead O/S - 15/Jul/06 with Jen McKenzie

Hidden - 2005

Captain Solo - Lead - 31/Aug/03 with Colin

thebat - 2nd O/S - 2003 with Alex the medic

Andy S - Lead O/S - 13/Sep/02 with Paul & Sheila

Hidden - Lead O/S - 2002

Kris's 1st VS lead.
Jamie B - 2nd - Sep/01 with Kris Quayle

Hidden - 2nd - 12/May/01

brianrunner - 2000

graeme gatherer - 2000

Hidden - Lead - 1999

Yourlead - 2nd - 18/Apr/97 with Graham Penny

CMacD - 1994

Dave Kerr - AltLd - Aug/93 with Iain Martin

Andy Say - Solo - 28/Aug/89

BRUCESTRAC - 1986 with Simon Stewart

mark mcgowan01 - 1984

Hidden - Lead - 1980

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Voting
Total votes cast 65
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VS21 of 22
easy VS1 of 22
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HS0 of 22
easy HS0 of 22
hard 5a0 of 22
5a0 of 22
easy 5a0 of 22
hard 4c2 of 22
4c15 of 22
easy 4c3 of 22
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3 Stars13 of 21
2 Stars8 of 21
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Style of ascent

Soloed3 of 100 (3.0%)
Lead41 of 100 (41.0%)
Followed35 of 100 (35.0%)
Alt Leads8 of 100 (8.0%)
Unknown13 of 100 (13.0%)

'Climbed'45 of 100 (45.0%)
clean O/S49 of 100 (49.0%)
clean β1 of 100 (1.0%)
clean rpt5 of 100 (5.0%)