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Never as Good as the First Time** E3 5c

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PUBLIC LOGBOOKS
This climb is in 77 logbooks, and on 5 wishlists.

tim newton - Lead O/S - 20/May/13 with bradley reed, stuart lade

Hidden - 2013

stonemonkey159 - Lead O/S - 05/Aug/12

Matthew Keeves - 2nd O/S - 05/Aug/12 with stonemonkey159

a13x - 2nd O/S - 04/Aug/12 with Catherine Peake

Hidden - Lead - 21/Jul/12

BenRyle - Lead O/S - 27/Jun/12

dan ely - 2nd O/S - 27/Jun/12 with ben lil

A bit scary for E2
Pippa - Lead O/S - 05/May/12 with Jamie Thornley

bold, bold, bold but the hardest move is protected by a bolt. i didn't clip the second bolt - doh!
givemetea - Lead O/S - 19/Apr/12 with Vince

In an exposed and intimidating position! Found this very bold and run out! Techy and balancey all the way up.
brew_guru - Lead β - 19/Apr/12 with Mike Goldthorp

E2 5c
willoates - Lead O/S - 08/Mar/12 with John Oooooore, Blaire

Hidden - 2012

ksjs - 03/Jul/11 with goosebump

Ed morris - Lead O/S - 26/Jun/11 with stefan

Hidden - Lead O/S - 24/Apr/11

Luke Brooks - Lead O/S - 07/Mar/11 with Barni

barni - 2nd rpt - 07/Mar/11 with luke

nadeem - Lead O/S - 06/Mar/11

Hidden - 2011

Rory Shaw - 2011

Hidden - 2011

Hidden - 2011

Hidden - 2011

Hidden - 2011

Hidden - 2011

centurion05 - 2011

mwatson - 2011

lead on alasdair's qdraws.. a tricky route, the climbing never eases off enough to relax.. high anxiety most of the way up..
rustaldo - Lead β - 21/Oct/10 with Alasadair

i soiled myself
offroute - Lead O/S - 04/Oct/10 with barni

barni - Lead rpt - 04/Oct/10 with Liam fleming

smallerrich - Lead O/S - 02/Jul/10 with Owen

did the direct finish after the 2nd bolt rarther than the crack heading right. was really good climbing!
samrad - Lead O/S - 10/Jun/10 with james G

Another good climb. Really nice to finish direct through Sweetest Taboo but I opted for the normal finish.
farmus21 - Lead - 10/Jun/10 with Sam Radcliffe

Hidden - TR O/S - 02/May/10

alasdair19 - 2010

barni - Lead O/S - 16/Jul/09 with Oli

Lloyders - Lead O/S - Oct/08

recommended
ksjs - Lead O/S - 22/Jul/08 with jo

Sgt. Vest - Lead O/S - 13/Jun/08 with Rich bennet

Hidden - Lead O/S - 14/May/08

Matt Vigg - 2008

Toby Dunn - Lead O/S - 27/Apr/07 with Ruth

Hidden - Lead - 27/Apr/07

tumbling wizard - Lead - Apr/07

barni - Lead - 2007 with Paul James

Hidden - 2nd O/S - 26/Jul/06

Belier - Lead O/S - 26/Jul/06 with Alex Mason

Brown - Lead O/S - 16/Apr/06 with Ralph

Hidden - 2006

Hidden - 2006

Ian McNeill - 2006

Dringo - 2006

Hidden - 2002

Hidden - Lead - 20/Sep/97

Hidden - Lead - Jul/97

Ched - Lead O/S - 1997 with Glanfor

Gambit - Lead O/S - 25/May/95 with Rob, Barney

Hidden - Lead O/S - 30/Nov/94

Hidden - Lead O/S - 17/Jul/94

ste_d - Lead O/S - 10/Oct/93 with mik

Sean Kelly - Jun/92 with Andy roberts

whispering nic - Lead - 21/Oct/90 with noj

Hidden - Lead - 13/May/90

chrisdavies - Lead O/S - 1990

Hidden - Lead O/S - 1990

Hidden - Lead O/S - Sep/89

phardman - Lead O/S - 25/Jun/89

Hidden - AltLd - 14/May/89

1 fall
stevieb - 2nd dog - 14/May/89 with Gary Jones, Ian Harrison

Paula Hamilton-Gibson - Lead - 1989 with Bill Williamson

NickHarms - 1989

goi.ashmore - Lead O/S - 14/Jun/88 with Dave Forster

Hidden - Lead - 07/Apr/88

Hidden - Lead - 05/Aug/87

Hidden - Lead - 28/May/87

sadams - Lead O/S - 14/Apr/87 with Guy Townsend

Users with this climb on their wishlist are:
Kevin Robert Jones, Hidden, Ross.Cooper, Hidden, Hidden

Voting
Total votes cast 49
hard E40 of 16
E40 of 16
easy E40 of 16
hard E30 of 16
E35 of 16
easy E34 of 16
hard E26 of 16
E21 of 16
easy E20 of 16
hard 6a0 of 17
6a0 of 17
easy 6a0 of 17
hard 5c0 of 17
5c13 of 17
easy 5c4 of 17
hard 5b0 of 17
5b0 of 17
easy 5b0 of 17
3 Stars0 of 16
2 Stars5 of 16
1 Star10 of 16
0 Stars1 of 16
Bag of .....0 of 16
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Style of ascent

Lead48 of 77 (62.3%)
Followed6 of 77 (7.8%)
Toproped1 of 77 (1.3%)
Alt Leads1 of 77 (1.3%)
Unknown21 of 77 (27.3%)

'Climbed'35 of 77 (45.5%)
clean O/S37 of 77 (48.1%)
clean β2 of 77 (2.6%)
clean rpt2 of 77 (2.6%)
dogged1 of 77 (1.3%)