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The yew at the top of Fibre is coming away from the cliff. It may not survive too many more climbers pulling on it to assist the exit moves. It is not a reliable abseil anchor. It is backed up from above, but the rope runs up steep vegetated ground to a distant tree: in order to check this attachment is ok you would have to escape the system. Recommended: abseil from large tree a short and easy traverse away to the right (facing in).
bpmclimb
Like the below comment says there has been some rock fall and the second yew tree that's refereed to in the guide book has now fallen over as a result. Doesn't hinder any of the climbing as far I can tell but makes it harder working out where you are if you don't know about it.
Also I think the VDiff climb called "The Gully," has become vastly over grown.
As of the cold winter of early 2010 there appear to have been a few rockfalls, I'm not a regular to this crag so not entirely sure, but they look fresh and there are plenty of loose holds here and there. There is a very large scar on the RH crag near Cadillac, and the resulting block destroyed one of the yew trees; also some looseness occasionally noticeable even on well-trodden classics like Questor. It seems fine (even to me who can be quite paranoid about such things)... but exercise caution!
Climbed here yesterday and had a great day, doing great routes, Fibre is fantastic even if it gets a little scrappy at the top. A word of warning for all routes here...they are long and eat up a lot of runners (due to lots of placements), so add extenders to your rack and then a few more then some more...
Paid a visit here last night (first time for nearly 20 years) and was pleasantly surprised at how clean the lines are now - years ago even Questor was a bit loose dirty and overgrown. Lots to go for on both sides of the crag, but watch the rock - theres a lot of accident potential here from hollow/loose holds and gear placements.
Regarding getting down, we decided to just walk off down the "ladders" - actually a nice new set of steps. Much quicker, easier and safer for those below than trying to abseil here. Saw a lot of rock getting knocked down by peeps abseiling or just moving around at the top of some of the most popular pitches, and the ropes can get stuck pretty easily on some of the abseils. Also many of the traditional abseil trees (which are also the best belays) are now dead.
All that said, a very worthwhile crag with its own style - we'll be back soon!
Pleasantly surprised by Wyndcliffe. Did Sinew and The Don, and crag is well worth the visit for these two routes. Both v well protected and on mostly good rock.
Middle flake under the over hang has fallen off Strike .. probably best to take the direct approach (4c in the guide) as the original traverse left now looks a tad technical for an HS route.
There has been a large rockfall on Cadillac, just above where you step back right to enter the final groove. It doesn't affect the route at all, but it has taken out the yew tree at the bottom!
Chris is not wrong. As a first-year leader and new to Wyndcliffe, I climbed Papillon, (40m HS 4b) on Saturday; took plenty of nuts and hexes but only 10 extenders. I found the route to be long, steep and sustained, much more so than anything encountered before, and requiring a lot of protection. Most of my extenders had gone before half way and I was using anchor slings, prusik cord, dyneema hex-loops, chalk-bag cord with screw-gate, HMS and nut-key crabs to eke out my gear. (Near the top I found myself at one point committed to a move on a tenuous-looking spike, close to my limit on tiring arms, observing the nut by my ankles jump out, leaving me approx 6 metres above the last piece of protection - a definite Brown Trousers Moment). The grade and guide did not prepare me for this. A summer of climbing at Stanage, Froggatt, Holyhead Mountain, Llanberis, Avon Gorge and Wye Valley had led me to expect 30 metres of mainly easy climbing with a few testing sections rather than steep, hard moves all the way . I am learning about the differences in grades and guide book descriptions between crags and this route was a real jump up the learning curve. It is a great crag though, and I'll be back on Papillon this weekend (with several suitcases full of extenders) to properly appreciate the experience and without having to change my underwear quite so often.
It is worth taking a few more nuts and quickdraws than usual since the routes are quite long for single pitch routes. The two routes we did were quite hard for the grade, but very good quality. I'll be back to find out whether all of the routes are like that!
It's quite clear from the routes I've done (all on the left hand crag), bit loose in places though.
Many routes on Wyndcliffe have been lost to vegetation in recent years, especially on the Left hand crag. Some of these are good routes, having climbed many of them in earlier years. The crag was originally dug out of the vegetation in the 1970's so could we form a group of climbers to clean up the crag - we are talking of brambles and ivy here not rare plants.
I climed here (April 2005) on Left hand crag which is the less visited, worth it for the routes that are available (not overgrown) Mostly S - VS. Only managed Monsoon (S), before being rained off! some lose rock to watch out for as some of the climbs are little used. This would also be no use for bigger groups as there is not enough climbing, but makes a nice day out for a small group.
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