Describing the route on Mountain Project he said:
"The grade on this is nothing but a proposition, and it is meant to be honest when compared to other crack climbs around the U.S. Matt Segal checked out the line before I did the FA and he told me he felt that it was solid 14, so it might even be on the stiff side. I was going to call it 13+, but after hearing what Matt thought I decided to split the difference. Repeats will help settle the grade, up or down. For me, the one time I TR'd it, I felt like it was equivalent to a power endurance V11, and putting in the gear on lead adds quite a bit to the difficulty in my opinion."
Vedauwoo is a well known off-width and crack climbing destination, with such horrors as Lucille (See UKC News ) and other elephant-bum features.
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