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I remember doing a VS at Polldubh in the seventies. John Cunningham was with some students on a route nearby. I asked him if I was on the right line. He said yes. The conversation then went:
"VS in Scotland can mean anything"
"Yes I know"
"It could be Extreme 5c"
"Yes I know. What would you say this is?"
"That's VS - in Scotland"
Andy Long - 04/Jun/14
"VS in Scotland can mean anything"
"Yes I know"
"It could be Extreme 5c"
"Yes I know. What would you say this is?"
"That's VS - in Scotland"
I agree they were very slow to accept other grades but some guides had graded lists at the back which helped.
I don't think you would have been able to place a friend in the old days (if you had them) because of the turf. The turf has reduced over the years as climbers walked on it, some of it gave way and some was removed.
Colin Moody - 04/Jun/14
I don't think you would have been able to place a friend in the old days (if you had them) because of the turf. The turf has reduced over the years as climbers walked on it, some of it gave way and some was removed.
The man behind the camera was Ken Holmes.
Tony Marr - 24/Dec/22
On another point, something that has surprised me many times over the years while talking to some younger climbers, is their lack of knowledge about how grades in Scotland used to lag behind the rest of the UK. Until the late 1970's, the highest grade used in Scotland was Very Severe....Swastika, Pause, Long Reach, Long Wait etc. were all graded VS. This made climbing extra exciting and always serious! You would never be sure if the climb was actually just a VS or a serious Extreme! Guide books from that time rarely helped, descriptions usually short / vague, and of course technical grades for individual pitches did not exist. How times have changed...